Re: Wiki editing

On 17/05/2019 03:56, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > The natural place for the FAQ and Resources information I have started > collecting is under the diversity Wiki page, > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=112820458 > > Now that the committee is official, what is the pro

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:32 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Some projects collect data using google analytics... https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html has more info on that. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dive

Re: Wiki editing

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 4:57 AM Patricia Shanahan wrote: > ...In practicing Confluence on a local installation, I found that, by > default, only links covered by a whitelist can be added... I hope it's not like that at https://cwiki.apache.org/ , that would be highly impractical. Did you check?

Re: Wiki editing

On 5/17/2019 12:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 4:57 AM Patricia Shanahan wrote: ...In practicing Confluence on a local installation, I found that, by default, only links covered by a whitelist can be added... I hope it's not like that at https://cwiki.apache.org/

Recommendations for inclusive events

Hi, FWIW I stumbled on https://github.com/hcorona/diversity-inclusion (via https://twitter.com/lsmith/status/1129308724827447296) and I quite like that set of suggestions - lots of good practical advice IMO. -Bertrand - To unsub

Re: Wiki editing

> On 17 May 2019, at 12:56 pm, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > The natural place for the FAQ and Resources information I have started > collecting is under the diversity Wiki page, > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=112820458 > > Now that the committee is offici

Re: Wiki editing

On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 09:31, Mark Thomas wrote: > > PS I am not on the committee and if the committee would prefer me to > handle requests like this differently please let me know. Generally, > anyone with an @apache.org address is going to get full control. Non-ASF > folks will probably start w

Re: Wiki editing

On 17/05/2019 07:25, Justin Mclean wrote: > > >> On 17 May 2019, at 12:56 pm, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> >> The natural place for the FAQ and Resources information I have started >> collecting is under the diversity Wiki page, >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageI

[DISCUSS] committee resources

hey folks, now the D&I committee is official, I think it's time we think about the resources we want to commission so far we have one mailing list: - diversity@apache.org we also have: - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=112820458 - https://issues.apache.org/jira

Re: Recommendations for inclusive events

this is great should this go on a wiki page or in a JIRA ticket or something? so we don't lose it. I'm presuming that potentially there's work/info here for us to adapt/integrate On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:51, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > FWIW I stumbled on https://github.com/hcorona/d

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

+1 to everything here. I prefer diversity dev because I think most folks will naturally go to diversity for questions. It will be easier to tell folks who end up on dev that this is for getting work done On Fri, May 17, 2019, 08:20 Naomi Slater wrote: > hey folks, > > now the D&I committee is of

Re: Recommendations for inclusive events

It is going on the "Resources" page anyway, but it might be good for people to think and write about how to hold inclusive Apache events. On 5/17/2019 6:31 AM, Naomi Slater wrote: this is great should this go on a wiki page or in a JIRA ticket or something? so we don't lose it. I'm presuming t

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

From a purely selfish point of view, I would rather make the FAQ and Resources pages HTML than wiki. I am in the process of learning Confluence so I can edit the wiki. I already know HTML. On 5/17/2019 6:20 AM, Naomi Slater wrote: hey folks, now the D&I committee is official, I think it's tim

[DISCUSS] bylaws and CoC

another email in the advent of the creation of the D&I committee we should formalize some committee bylaws. I can start that effort and share a draft with the list. I worked extensively on the CouchDB bylaws (along with Joan, and others) and that would be my starting point cf. https://couchdb.apa

Re: [DISCUSS] bylaws and CoC

Hi, On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:40 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > ...we should formalize some committee bylaws... FWIW, in the last year or so the Board and Incubator PMC have recommended that projects create "community guidelines" rather than bylaws. It might just be a name change, the content is prob

Re: [DISCUSS] bylaws and CoC

ack! thanks I'll pass this on to CouchDB too On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 16:16, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:40 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > > ...we should formalize some committee bylaws... > > FWIW, in the last year or so the Board and Incubator PMC have > recommende

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

On the topic of another list, why wouldn't "off-topic" be comdev? I think most, if not all, of us are in there. If we take the responsibility of ensuring diversity and welcoming in that list then we are starting to spread by example. Get Outlook for Android _

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 16:37, Ross Gardler wrote: > On the topic of another list, why wouldn't "off-topic" be comdev? > > I think most, if not all, of us are in there. If we take the > responsibility of ensuring diversity and welcoming in that list then we are > starting to spread by example. >

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

+1 from me (as a newcomer to both lists) On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:54 AM Naomi Slater wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 16:37, Ross Gardler > wrote: > > > On the topic of another list, why wouldn't "off-topic" be comdev? > > > > I think most, if not all, of us are in there. If we take the > > res

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

I guess I don't understand how telling someone to go to a different list will work regardless of which list we tell them to go to. That's why I offered that we need to practice and hone our management of certain types of posts instead. My 2 cents, -Alex On 5/17/19, 8:54 AM, "Naomi Slater" wr

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

I've thought a bit more about Ross's proposal, and I think I've come to the conclusion that I prefer: diversity@apache.org - for questions and answers, debate, etc diversity-...@apache.org - a place for this committee to get work done I say this because there seems to be some consensus that we wa

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

Hi Naomi, I would hope it would be possible to remove an individual from any ML. I am not proposing that we tolerate or moderate unhelpful behavior. I am proposing that we refine appropriate ways of stopping unwanted behavior by eventually figuring out the best response that is non-combative,

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:27 PM Alex Harui wrote: > > Hi Naomi, > > I would hope it would be possible to remove an individual from any ML. I am > not proposing that we tolerate or moderate unhelpful behavior. I am > proposing that we refine appropriate ways of stopping unwanted behavior by >

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Naomi Slater wrote: > > in summary, I have three proposed actions: > > - create diversity-private@ > - create diversity-discuss@ or diversity-dev@ Counter proposal, consider: private@diversity dev@diversity And ask that diversity@ be renamed to discuss@diversity,

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

I’m +1 on your counter proposal, Sam On Fri 17. May 2019 at 21:37, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Naomi Slater wrote: > > > > in summary, I have three proposed actions: > > > > - create diversity-private@ > > - create diversity-discuss@ or diversity-dev@ > > Counter proposal,

[Announce] The Diversity & Inclusion Committee has been officially created

Hi Everyone, On May 15th 2019, the board of the Apache Software Foundation approved the creation of a President’s committee to work on matters related to Diversity and Inclusion. Congratulations everyone! This is a great opportunity to shape our projects and community into a space where all vo

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

+1 also (alternatively "discuss" could be "user" to mirror what people are accustomed to for topic ettiquette) On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > I’m +1 on your counter proposal, Sam > > On Fri 17. May 2019 at 21:37, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Naomi

Re: [Announce] The Diversity & Inclusion Committee has been officially created

thanks, Gris. and congratulations on our appointment. I’m looking forward to working with you all On Fri 17. May 2019 at 22:52, Gris Cuevas wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > On May 15th 2019, the board of the Apache Software Foundation approved the > creation of a President’s committee to work on matter

Re: [Announce] The Diversity & Inclusion Committee has been officially created

on *your! (I’m on my phone! oops! lol) On Fri 17. May 2019 at 23:38, Naomi Slater wrote: > thanks, Gris. and congratulations on our appointment. I’m looking forward > to working with you all > > On Fri 17. May 2019 at 22:52, Gris Cuevas wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> On May 15th 2019, the board

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

I thought about this but I think user@ would only makes sense if we were shipping a product and possible has some negative connotations otherwise On Fri 17. May 2019 at 23:33, Andrew Musselman wrote: > +1 also (alternatively "discuss" could be "user" to mirror what people are > accustomed to for

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

Yeah makes sense. On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:43 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > I thought about this but I think user@ would only makes sense if we were > shipping a product and possible has some negative connotations otherwise > > On Fri 17. May 2019 at 23:33, Andrew Musselman > > wrote: > > > +1 also

Re: [Announce] The Diversity & Inclusion Committee has been officially created

Congrats Gris and Team! On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:39 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > on *your! (I’m on my phone! oops! lol) > > On Fri 17. May 2019 at 23:38, Naomi Slater wrote: > > > thanks, Gris. and congratulations on our appointment. I’m looking forward > > to working with you all > > > > On Fri 1

Re: [Announce] The Diversity & Inclusion Committee has been officially created

Thank you Gris and the team for all the work! I am excited about the work ahead of us <3 Aizhamal *From: *Andrew Musselman *Date: *Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:08 PM *To: * Congrats Gris and Team! > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:39 PM Naomi Slater wrote: > > > on *your! (I’m on my phone! oops! lol) >

Re: [DISCUSS] bylaws and CoC

Hi, And recently even those have seem to have gone out of favour as many of them contained things that were not in line with how the ASF works or its policies. Podlings are asked not to create them on graduation. For procedural things (voting and the like) I just point podlings to this. [1] Th

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

+1 on Sam's proposal. Thank you, *From: *Naomi Slater *Date: *Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM *To: * I’m +1 on your counter proposal, Sam > > On Fri 17. May 2019 at 21:37, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Naomi Slater wrote: > > > > > > in summary, I have three proposed act

Re: Wiki editing - HELP

My "Resources" draft seems to have ended up in the OpenOffice space, possibly because I have previously done some page editing there. I tried to move it where it belongs (Space: Equality, Diversity & Inclusion, Parent: Equality, Diversity & Inclusion Home), but I don't have permission to do tha

Re: Wiki editing - HELP

Its current location is https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Draft+Resources#app-switcher. On 5/17/2019 5:02 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: My "Resources" draft seems to have ended up in the OpenOffice space, possibly because I have previously done some page editing there. I tried

Re: Wiki editing - HELP

Moved https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EDI/Draft+Resources --David On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:02 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > My "Resources" draft seems to have ended up in the OpenOffice space, > possibly because I have previously done some page editing there. I tried > to move it

Re: Wiki editing - HELP

Thanks. On 5/17/2019 6:45 PM, David Nalley wrote: Moved https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EDI/Draft+Resources --David On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:02 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: My "Resources" draft seems to have ended up in the OpenOffice space, possibly because I have previously d

Re: Wiki editing - HELP

Unfortunately, I can neither create pages under the EDI home page, nor edit my Draft Resources since it has been moved there. I suspect I do not yet have edit permission in the EDI space. My Apache ID is pats, e-mail p...@apache.org. On 5/17/2019 7:12 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Thanks. On