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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 07:18:11PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 06:34:53PM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > > > > > > On 04/06/2021 11:19, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Debian Community News Team > > > wrote: > > > >

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 06:34:53PM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > > > On 04/06/2021 11:19, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > > > >> Does anybody have photos of Garrett? > > > > Have you tried Google Image Search?

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Daniel: Briefly, I'm engrossed in documentation for C-Graph, but wanted to throw out a question. The Debian vote about Dr Stallman had all the negativity of an expulsion. > > But Dr Stallman was never a member of Debian > How can you have an expulsion vote for somebody who is not a member? > It w

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Jun 1, 2021, 21:45 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 07:26:51AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 07:39:55AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >> > Daniel, in order to ensure that people are aware of these plans and >> > that the community supports this

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On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 07:24:08AM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > If Garrett and his Debian buddies were in that group watching an alleged > rape, why did they just watch it without trying to stop it? I wasn't? ___ Discussion mailing list Di

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On 06/06/2021 20:26, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > >> On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 12:18:46PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >>> Matthew Garrett writes: >>> On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:36:27PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: >> I ca

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 12:18:46PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> >> > On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:36:27PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> >> > I can - Jake raped or sexually assaulted several people I k

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On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 12:18:46PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:36:27PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > >> Matthew Garrett writes: > >> > I can - Jake raped or sexually assaulted several people I know. No > >> > social benefit ca

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:36:27PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> > I can - Jake raped or sexually assaulted several people I know. No >> > social benefit can be used to justify that. >> >> I can't because I have no evidence. The evide

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On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:36:27PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > I can - Jake raped or sexually assaulted several people I know. No > > social benefit can be used to justify that. > > I can't because I have no evidence. The evidence you present is not > convinci

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:15:20PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> >> > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:02:38PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> >> > Where did I perform this conflation? >> >> >> >> Sun, 4 Ap

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 06:34:53PM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > > > On 04/06/2021 11:19, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > > > >> Does anybody have photos of Garrett? > > > > Have you tried Google Image Search?

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:15:20PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:02:38PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > >> Matthew Garrett writes: > >> > Where did I perform this conflation? > >> > >> Sun, 4 Apr 2021 02:13:54 +0100 on this maili

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Francesco Florian writes: > On Fr, 04 Jun 2021, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> If I were to weigh how much hurt Red Hat, Google and Cannonical (your >> past employers) have done to the free software community and with which >> you have collaborated, I would say it would be better to remove you >> i

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:02:38PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> > Where did I perform this conflation? >> >> Sun, 4 Apr 2021 02:13:54 +0100 on this mailing list. > > I was referring to Jake (hence "a rapist", meaning I was only talking

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On Fr, 04 Jun 2021, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > If I were to weigh how much hurt Red Hat, Google and Cannonical (your > past employers) have done to the free software community and with which > you have collaborated, I would say it would be better to remove you > instead of him. "The sins of fathe

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:02:38PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > Where did I perform this conflation? > > Sun, 4 Apr 2021 02:13:54 +0100 on this mailing list. I was referring to Jake (hence "a rapist", meaning I was only talking about one of the people mentioned

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:08:25AM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Matthew Garrett writes: >> >> > I don't believe that I've ever conflated his opinions with rape? It's >> > possible that I've been careless with wording at some point, but while I >> > may disagre

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:08:25AM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > > I don't believe that I've ever conflated his opinions with rape? It's > > possible that I've been careless with wording at some point, but while I > > may disagree with Stallman on multiple point

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On 04/06/2021 11:19, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > >> Does anybody have photos of Garrett? > > Have you tried Google Image Search? Also, could you please respond to my > emails asking you for access to the blog? Too bu

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 08:54:57PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > >> I mean that a community which was backing Richard Stallman and his quest >> of freedom is being programatically taken over by someone who opposes >> him and conflates his opinions with rape. Yes, I

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On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Debian Community News Team wrote: > Does anybody have photos of Garrett? Have you tried Google Image Search? Also, could you please respond to my emails asking you for access to the blog? ___ Discussion mailing

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On 04/06/2021 00:03, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > > Hi! >   > > > Yes, it's the puppeteers who we need to focus on in devising > strategies to > > move forward, not the puppets. > > I absolutely agree! > Also, not that I have a voice, but I do not recommend giving Garre

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Hi! > > Yes, it's the puppeteers who we need to focus on in devising strategies > to > > move forward, not the puppets. > > I absolutely agree! > Also, not that I have a voice, but I do not recommend giving Garrett > blog access. Just my 2 cents. Don't know enough about Garrett to comment. I'm

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Yes, it's the puppeteers who we need to focus on in devising strategies to move forward, not the puppets. I absolutely agree! Also, not that I have a voice, but I do not recommend giving Garrett blog access. Just my 2 cents. -mkw Quoting "Adrienne G. Thompson" : We recognize the possib

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On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 07:26:51AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 07:39:55AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Daniel, in order to ensure that people are aware of these plans and > > that the community supports this approach, I'll need to be able to > > post to the blo

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On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 08:54:57PM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > I mean that a community which was backing Richard Stallman and his quest > of freedom is being programatically taken over by someone who opposes > him and conflates his opinions with rape. Yes, I believe that is you. > I believ

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Matthew Garrett writes: > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 07:46:04AM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: >> Wow! Another community which was in favour of defending freedom from >> attacks is trying to be taken over. I wonder what would happen if >> people who do not mind non-free software's abuses would c

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On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 07:46:04AM -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote: > Wow! Another community which was in favour of defending freedom from > attacks is trying to be taken over. I wonder what would happen if > people who do not mind non-free software's abuses would create their own > communities a

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Wow! Another community which was in favour of defending freedom from attacks is trying to be taken over. I wonder what would happen if people who do not mind non-free software's abuses would create their own communities and call themselves in a way which it would be easy to identify their intenti

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 07:39:55AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Daniel, in order to ensure that people are aware of these plans and > that the community supports this approach, I'll need to be able to > post to the blog - could you please provide me with credentials? Ping? __

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Danny, that was just a gentle reminder to be respectful of RMS here, whatever your differences may be. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: http://www.a

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We recognize the possibility that Molly was not acting alone and she was > manipulated or used as a stooge to create the Gemlich letter 2.0 > Yes, it's the puppeteers who we need to focus on in devising strategies to move forward, not the puppets. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! Refer

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On 22/05/2021 21:17, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > Danny, >   > > The obsession with Molly as the alleged root cause of the movement's > decline also seems quite desperate. > > > Who is obsessed with Molly? We are concerned with proxies for corporate > vultures, not Molly per se.  >

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 1:07 PM Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law > you automatically lost the > argument : ( > > Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular > social movements with mi

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Danny, > The obsession with Molly as the alleged root cause of the movement's > decline also seems quite desperate. > Who is obsessed with Molly? We are concerned with proxies for corporate vultures, not Molly per se. > Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular >> > s

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On 22/05/2021 20:15, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Case in point, the "Debian Community News Team" email account is run by > one person writing in what seems like their personal capacity and > without community input, and the vast majority of messages on this list > are from that person, Adrienne, Da

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Case in point, the "Debian Community News Team" email account is run by one person writing in what seems like their personal capacity and without community input, and the vast majority of messages on this list are from that person, Adrienne, Daniel, and aristocat. The obsession with Molly as the al

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On 22/05/2021 20:06, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law > you automatically lost > the argument : ( As the Wikipedia article explains, outright comparisons to Hitler are often nonsense but comparing specific

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Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law you automatically lost the argument : ( Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular social movements with millions of people making history, the Free Software cause is like a s

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> Molly de Blanc is the new Adolf Hitler > You give de Blanc & Co. too much credit. Hitler was not motivated by greed, but by a twisted philosophy. He was highly intelligent, and an artist capable of independent thought. Never, himself, the manipulated victim Hitler was a master manipulator. Yes,

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On 22/05/2021 18:42, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: >   > > The Debian vote about Dr Stallman had all the negativity of an > expulsion. > > > The corporate-backed Debianites appear to have fomented yet another > schism in the free software community. We already have the "Free > Software"

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> The Debian vote about Dr Stallman had all the negativity of an expulsion. The corporate-backed Debianites appear to have fomented yet another schism in the free software community. We already have the "Free Software" and "Open Source" camps. What will this one be called? Nothing but the beheadi

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May 22, 2021, 06:39 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run >> it, so I'll do so. I propose the following timeline: >> >> 2021-05-21: Call for nominations ends >> > > T

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:45:07PM +0200, aristo...@tutanota.com wrote: > > > > May 22, 2021, 06:39 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > >> Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run > >> it, so I'll do

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On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run > it, so I'll do so. I propose the following timeline: > > 2021-05-21: Call for nominations ends There have been no further nominations, so in accordance with

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Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run it, so I'll do so. I propose the following timeline: 2021-05-21: Call for nominations ends 2021-05-22: Voting opens 2021-05-29: Voting closes ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@l

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May 14, 2021, 20:38 by dan...@pocock.pro: > > Elections are always a great idea. Democracy. Bring it on. > Fake democracy for fake elections for fake group. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu

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May 14, 2021, 10:50 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > The Council has once again failed to call elections, so I'd like to > There is no council to call elections. All elections are fake. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://l

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On 14/05/2021 23:54, aristo...@tutanota.com wrote: > > > May 14, 2021, 20:38 by dan...@pocock.pro: > > > Elections are always a great idea. Democracy. Bring it on. > > > Fake democracy for fake elections for fake group. What is the difference between Open Source and Free Software? O

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On 14/05/2021 12:50, Matthew Garrett wrote: > The Council has once again failed to call elections, so I'd like to > announce my intention of standing for election to the Council. I'm a > former member of the FSF board of directors, a winner of the FSF Award > for the Advancement of Free Softw

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It can only be Monday I hate Mondays I nominate My platform is a dog https://garfield.com/comic/1981/07/29 I hate Mondays -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Get your own encrypted, ad-free mailbox: https://tutanota.com May 25, 2020, 03:46 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > On Sun, May 03, 2020 a

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On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 08:38:51PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 03/05/2020 10:40, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > It's been a year since the announcement of the last set of elections for > > the Fellowship. Will the elected representatives be calling new > > elections? > > > > The Fellowsh

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May 3, 2020, 08:40 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > Will the elected representatives be calling new elections? > No elected representatives here. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discus

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On 03/05/2020 10:40, Matthew Garrett wrote: > It's been a year since the announcement of the last set of elections for > the Fellowship. Will the elected representatives be calling new > elections? > The Fellowship Council hasn't given any report on their progress so far. Joe, Florian, Mr G