It would be useful to have a function that returned the as-aliased
frequency for
any given input frequency (up to the maximum input frequency of the A/D).
Trivial, I suppose, but less opportunity for brain farts that way.
Matt Ettus wrote:
Quoting mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Am i missing somethi
While that sounds interesting (particularly as I'm a part-time radio
astronomer), what
you'll find is that most of the more sensitive facilities would rather
not have
transmitters of any kind anywhere near them--even their own.
At some facilities, the vehicular traffic within the facility is *
Cool.
That means that you could conceivably build a 4-port correlator
(for radio astronomy) out of a single USRP, assuming that your
front-ends are all running from a single oscillator/reference.
Eric Blossom wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 02:58:36AM -, Robert McGwier wrote:
I want to take
John Gilmore wrote:
But even at 20 Ms/s, with 14-bit samples passed in 2-byte shorts,
we've exceeded the capacity of the USB bus. It would be pretty easy
to build a sample-packer that would pass 16 samples in 14 bytes
(rather than in 16 bytes), which would save us 1/8th of the bandwidth.
That woul
So, for a theoretical USB bandwidth of 32Mbyte/sec, that's
128Msamples/sec coming from the A/D :-)
Eric Blossom wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:59:34AM -0500, Marcus Leech wrote:
Sample-size reduction, in order to increase effective bandwidth up to the
computer, would be of great benefi
Just saw this on my SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) list:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0503067
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Given also that the MT4937 is a cable-modem thingy, the analog outputs
would pretty-much
be *designed* to feed a high-speed A/D directly.
Matt Ettus wrote:
I was really surprised that there basically is no circuitry (like
opamp-based impedance matching) between the tuners' output and the ADC
Has anyone contemplated a "waterfall" type spectrum display?
This might best be done when contemplating general data
display speedups and UI improvements.
Not that I'm volunteering, you understand :-)
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niques like beamswitching, etc, are
traditional in dealing with
these issues. But having a very stable, temperature-controlled,
back-end helps
tremendously :-)
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resolution
spectrograms
for 10Mhz wide data, handling the FFT across multiple CPUs seems
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the noise that curve gets mighty annoying. Does current
USRP hardware CVS have anything new?
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the order of 1 cm.
Matt
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Iban Cardona wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking to buy a rfspace sdr-14 to use with a icom r7100 for seti
and RA. But today I see in the Ettus home page that it have the DBSRX
for sell, if it is usable for seti and RA it is a nice candy :)
because putting two dbsrx boards is possible to listen two chan
Ben Loftin wrote:
Could you elaborate on what you mean by seeing GPS L1. Does this me
acquisition, tracking, seeing bumps on an FFT, etc. I ask because I
am starting to build up algorithms for a GPS receiver to use with
USRP. I just finished the first simple one of generating the C/A code
refclk, divided down to 4Mhz or so, which
feeds a PLL-based quadrature direct-conversion receiver, covering
800Mhz or so to about 2Ghz or so.
The phase noise on the DBS_RX isn't spectacular, because the chip (MAX2118)
is designed for wideband DBS satellite TV recepti
tion regarding other types.
Finally, I must admit I am confused between analogue and digital tuners. Hope
someone has experience of TV tuners and able to help.
Best wishes,
Frank Rawlins
South Coast England
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back yard is only 54 feet x 26 feet and have a 8.5 feet dish (I
could enlarge it to 12 feet) so I am very limited.
Many thanks,
Frank G0OFX (missed G0OFY by one place!)
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Here's an unusual request.
I'm discussing 802.16 (WiMaX) jamming resistance with some of my colleagues.
Since I do security for a living, I like to think about these things.
I don't see
anything in the specs that would immediately render a jammer an
impractical
project for an poorly-funded
Stevie wrote:
Traditional jamming is probably hard given the required power levels.
Lin and Noubir (google for "On Link Layer Denial of Service in Data
Wireless LANs") consider 802.11a and show that jamming just one
complete symbol will cause the frame to be retransmitted and so a
pulsed jammin
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e that
rational people can propose this
sort of stuff.
I'm a Canadian, which means that I don't have any congresscritters to
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en you just
re-arrange the spectra back to the way it should be after the
"watermark detect" phase. But maybe I'm
all wet, as it were.
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western technocracy. Unless we stop it now.
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better-quality digital
version. You could also do interpolation between lines to produce a
synthetic pseudo-higher-resolution copy.
I'm not volunteering or anything, and I don't even have a subtantial
library of VHS material that I'd like made
into DVDs or anything.
John Clark wrote:
Hey, at least New Zealand has WETA...
Having spent time in New Zealand, I can say that I love the place far
too much to drag myself and all
my american geeks friends down to live there, thus spoiling it forever
:-) :-)
Matt Ettus wrote:
The DBSRX board has an LNA on the input.
Matt
Which is great if you have a short cable run between the DBSRX and the
signal source. However, for
any applications where noise-figure really matters, the only place you
can reasonably put the LNA is
right at the feed. Thi
Matt Ettus wrote:
DBS small satellite dish systems often have LNB feedhorns capable of
multiple polarizations and/or multiple bands. This is often controlled
by changing the voltage which powers the device. However, some have a
more complex control system involving tones in the 20kHz range if
without
registering or
paying, from Eutelsat.
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Robert McGwier wrote:
This is not quite right. The DIFFERENT oscillators on the USRP boards
have different frequencies and thus constantly changing phase angle
with respect to each other and with probability 1, the frequencies of
both oscillators will change with changing temp, air flow, etc.
Matt Ettus wrote:
The close in noise is from the COMMON reference, so there is nothing to
cancel, it is perfect. It is the further out phase noise components
which are not the same between the 2 PLLs, since those components are
from the individual VCOs. These integrate out fairly quickly, and
Eric Blossom wrote:
Congress: "Merry Chrismas! We're Turning Off Your Analog Outs"
Alex Curtis
Public Knowledge
December 16, 2005
http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/19
The House Judiciary Committee today introduced a bill (HR 4569)
to close the analog hole.
http://www.publicknowledge.org/iss
s a go-cart for his kids from an old chainsaw motor,
some bicycle parts, and a roll of chicken wire :-)
Good job, Chuck!
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No
tenna is potentially a lossy
thing, so useless for weak-signal work like EME and radio astronomy.
Unless you have an LNA at every element in the array. Which maps into
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I just upgraded to the latest tarballs, and happily noticed that
usrp_fft.py now includes a waterfall display.
I also noticed the --width-8 option to use 8-bit, rather than 16-bit
samples. While width-8 seems to work
in plain spectral display, it leaves a *strong* artifact in the
waterfall d
I gather that usrp_nbfm_rcv.py is using an older "view" of the
nbfmrx.py module from gnuradio-core, since the squelch code
inside usrp_nbfm_rcv.py provokes errors complaining about
undefined attributes.
Is there an update on the way for usrp_nbfm_rcv.py that uses the
newer squelch model?
I w
Eric Blossom wrote:
Not sure abou the waterfall code. OTOH, the reason we haven't been
promoting this mode is that it does not currently perform proper
rounding. Thus the strong DC artifact.
Yup, further investigation of width-8 reveals that it is currently too
"artifacty" for actual use.
I've noticed while playing with the gain control with the DBS_RX and
USRP that the range
of 50-79 makes no difference to the signal level, and then when I
switch from 79 to 80, there's
a sudden 10dB jump in signal level. Also down between 40 and 50, the
gain control only seems
to produce a
Matt Ettus wrote:
Lee Patton wrote:
I have seen that problem too. It is the result of incorrect python
integer/float semantics during the setting of the gc2 variable in the
set_gain() method found in db_dbs_rx.py. I will post a complete patch
once I am finished investigating some other gain
I'm slowly starting to "grok" some of the internals of GnuRadio.
I want to use GnuRadio for radio astronomy, including total-power detection.
My "plan of attack" is to write a block that acts as a detector--very
simple, in that
all it needs to do is take a complex input, square the inputs, and
those dinosaurs
who learned C back in 1979, and it pretty-much "stuck".
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Matt Ettus wrote:
Your code looks reasonable, but before you go writing C++ blocks, I
would try to do what you want with what is already there. The reality
is that the gr_probe_avg_mag_sqrd is rather specialized, and not really
necessary. Here's what I would do.
1) usrp source complex to gr_c
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/usrp_ra_receiver.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/stripchartsink.py
Together, they make up a crude total-power/spectral receiver chain for
amateur radio astronomy using the USRP
and an appropriate daughter card. Still needs a *lot* of work, but
it's promis
Those URLs I sent just a moment ago are wrong.
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/usrp_ra_receiver.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/stripchartsink.py
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Lee Patton wrote:
I was seeing a segfault on the exit of usrp_{fft,oscope}.py, but that
has been fixed by Eric in recent code. This is probably a long shot, but
maybe you're using old or unfixed code. See the following message chain
for details:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradi
Subject pretty-much says it all.
In my application, I want to trigger a timer once per second to update a
pair of static text
objects on the display. (With the current sidereal time, for the
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It's getting better ("so much better all the time").
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/usrp_ra_receiver.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/ra_stripchartsink.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/usrp_ra_receiver.gif
I'm going to bed now. Honest.
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In between putting coats of paint on the bathroom wall, etc, I managed
to make further improvements
to my RA receiver code.
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/usrp_ra_receiver.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.com/radioastronomy/ra_stripchartsink.py
http://www.propulsionpolymers.co
Eunsoo Seo wrote:
Hi, guys. I'm a newbie.
I'm planning to buy some USRPs and start learning gnu radio.
By the way, somebody told me that I need a license from FCC to use gnu radio.
And he said that getting a license is not the manufacturer's duty but mine.
Is this true?
Do you guys have licens
Folks:
I'm considering adding an AMD64 system to my fleet, with FC4. Are there
any "gotchas" with
this in native mode for GnuRadio?
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One of the things that's quite important to RA types is the stability of
the receiving equipment over longish
time periods--particularly over periods that are the same order of
magnitude as the signals they're
trying to observe.
I happened to have shut down my USRP/DBS_RX stack today to do som
Attached, y'all will find a plot of the total power detected with my
receiving setup:
21cm feedhorn--->LNA->DBS_RX->USRP
This is with the feedhorn covered with aluminum foil.
The 40-minute cycle is something that appeared in my other receiver a
couple of years ago, so I suspect
it may b
Please ignore.
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more manageable data structure than
X-F correlators for RA use. You can see that you can martial the
various FFT bins off to different CPUs for
further processing in an FX design, and thus control, to some extent,
the herculean data flow that occurs in
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Chuck Swiger wrote:
Very interesting - of course the Y scale is a really mangified range
of only 0.04, which may or may
not be significant.There's always batteries for ultimate isolation
- I run the USRP off a 7ah 6v
sealed lead/acid battery. Also you could make your setup portable
a
mike revnell wrote:
The astronomy club at the local college (New Mexico Tech) has a little
two element interferometer that I can get access to. I'm supposed to
be working on some software to point the antennas now. It has two 10
ft dishes with about a 200 foot baseline. I bought two dbsrx boar
Last week, I observed that with the USRP/DBS_RX combination terminated
at the input, there was still
a couple of spectral spurs when I set the system up to observe at the
neutral hydrogen line at
1420.405Mhz. This worried me a little, but I surmised that once I had
the LNA and another
line-
I have a couple of temperature-compensated voltage-controlled crystal
oscillators in cans.
Anybody want 'em?
They're made by CTS Knight, and have a nominal frequency of 10.240Mhz.
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accidentally, which included
the responses to my TCXO offer. I'm still offering them, and will
ship them to whomevers
e-mail lands in my inbox first.
I'm terribly sorry about that. One of those fumble-fingered moments one
ha
bout that. One of those fumble-fingered moments
one has in the depths
of the night while nobody is watching.
Henrique Miranda won the race, so off they go...
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Is anyone else having trouble updating USRP from sourceforge this morning?
I'm getting:
can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv4325
No space left on device
From a "cvs up -Pd"
I don't get this for any of the other modules (whose CVS is hosted
elsewhere).
Is anyone else having trouble updating USRP from sourceforge this morning?
I'm getting:
can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv4325
No space left on device
From a "cvs up -Pd"
I don't get this for any of the other modules (whose CVS is hosted
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Indeed, don't use a throttle block for anything other than a simulation not involving hardware.
What sample-rate are you using, and are you getting overrun or underrun indications ('O' or 'U' printed).
on Jan 13, 2014, Marqo Torres wrote:
Hello, I am working on a real time voice Tx/Rx using
The version of airprobe you're using hasn't been converted to use the new API in Gnu Radio 3.7, and the gnuradio-core package was deprecated in Gnu Radio 3.7.
on Jan 31, 2014, Maheshkumar Pandit wrote:
hello everybudyy
i am try to install airprobe for gsm spectrum decoding but i
It was on my list to change the build-types to "debug" (to provide symbols). I can't remember whether I did that or not.
Other than disk space, there's no down-side that I can see
on Mar 26, 2014, West, Nathan wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Luke Berndt wrote
Grumble :(
This is currently blocking my attempts to update gr-ra_tools to 3.7 (and, by implication, simple_ra).
I may dive in myself and see if there's an easy fix that provides backwards compatibility with older systems, since many of my "customers" are on
older systems.
on Mar 31, 2
Thanks, I`ll give it a spin this evening.
on Mar 31, 2014, Johnathan Corgan wrote:
Marcus, your fix was merged into maint/master/next.On Monday, March 31, 2014, Marcus Leech <mle...@ripnet.com> wrote:
This is currently blocking my attempts to update gr-ra_tools to 3.7 (and, by impli
That doesn't quite do the "and dump" part, based on my understanding of an integrate-and-dump integrator.
There's an averager block that might be closer to an integrate-and-dump integrator, since such an integrator also is a decimator
(you only produce an output every N inputs).
I often use a
Yeah, I'll do the same; enter a variable I haven't created yet. I'm afraid of putting pop-up boxes like this, though. You'll still see the red text in the block and the GRC error button will be enabled to help you track things down, so there will be an indication that you've done something
An AM demodulator is a squaring function. It can only *ever* produce positive values. You can remove DC offset by using a high-pass filter after it.
on Apr 25, 2014, Anton Komarov wrote:
But when we have only positive values that means in fact we have 0.5 DC offset, and that is bad. More
That would depend on the type of "i", but generally, if a single-precision "int", then 2^31.
But this is a generic programming and C/C++ question, not specifically related to Gnu Radio at all.
on Apr 25, 2014, MHMND Herath wrote:
Dear sir What is the maximum i value in for loop in a c++ b
Actually, I've always thought that it would be useful to be able to acquire a "handle" for a block, for use in "helper functions" within GRC, you can
actually achieve a fair amount with "helper code" that is hung off of buttons or function-probes and the like.
All of the GPIO stuff in gr-uhd is
It's a standard 10GBe card that should be supported by the ixgbe driver that has had kernel support for many many years.
on Apr 28, 2014, Lapointe, Benjamin - 1008 - MITLL via USRP-users wrote:
Does the 10 Gigabit Ethernet PCI-express adapter card sold by Ettus work with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
Well, I was utterly unable to get it to work, using any recent GR paired with latest "master" of UHD.
I get the same error every time. The swig-generated code "looks" correct, but this error persists.
I have cleaned every vestige of Gnu Radio and UHD from my system, and done totally-clean buil
I don't know about that specific error, but any build that takes more than about 3 hours means that the even if successful, will yield an actual signal-processing
environment that has very poor performance except at very low sample rates.
What is your OS environment? Hardware? Memory? CPU?
absolute latest and greatest hardware.Thanks,Austin- Original Message - From: Marcus Leech [mailto:mle...@ripnet.com] To: contrapez...@sportogs.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Sent: Tue, 6 May 2014 15:13:45 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] New guy having troubles
I don't know
The only way to really make this work "properly" is to go closed-loop. At that point, you might as well use an external reference. I've pointed out before
that 10MHz OCXOs are available cheaply, and generally achieve 100PPB *at worst*, even the "scrap pulls" that are cheaply available on eBay u
Gnu Radio is a streaming architecture. Sample-rate is actually almost-entirely meaningless within the flowgraph, and only really
has meaning "at the edges" when interfacing to the real world. The only exception is the throttle block, and even it doesn't
produce *precise* sample-rates.
For th
I worked on a WWVB receiver a few years back. Then realized that I'm in an apparent "null" in the WWVB transmit pattern. Even
my commercial WWVB clocks cannot receive it. Sigh.
on May 15, 2014, Iain Young, G7III wrote:
Hi Everyone,In recent days I had the idea to plug my LF preamp and
Ideally, end-users should never have to build from source--their distrib-of-choice should simply have the latest Gnu Radio release in
their repositories. The reality, however, is much different. The Gnu Radio project has *very little* influence over the policy and
decisions with respect to wh
Actually, if you look at the error messages closely, Cmake is complaining about a Cmake function that doesn't exist. I think it's
CMake that is too old (or the Cmake files are using constructs that are too new), and when there's no portaudio at all, we don't
end up triggering that paragraph of
Something that I do is that for some of my "customers", I've created a ra-distrib.tar.gz that they unload onto their machine,
and then run an installer.sh that just uses the local source-code copies that were unloaded out of the TAR file.
This does a local source build, but from source that I k
It will depend some on the effective group delay of both the interpolation filters in the the FPGA and the analog group delay of the analog bits of whatever daughtercard you're using.
The only way to be sure is to measure...
on Jun 04, 2014, bob wole via USRP-users wrote:
I am using stream
mit FIFO if it has been tagged as tx_time=X.
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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Marcus Leech <mle...@ripnet.com> wrote:
It will depend some on the effective group delay of both the interpolation filters in the the FPGA and the analog group delay of the analog bits of whatever daugh
Make sure that you specify that the 2nd X310 uses external clock and 1PPS, and all of them should use time synch of
"unknown PPS".
Also, there has been a bug in the scope sink (dunno if fixed) where samples are *not* time-aligned in the scope sink. The except
is that a complex-pair will be t
I find that it's relatively-common for people to criticize existing codebases because they don't use library , or aren't written in , or don't use . The nice thing about computer-sciencey things is that there's *always* a multitude of pathways to achieve any given goal. The fact that some group o
I suppose you'd have to modify the FPGA-to-ADC interface to bring in fewer bits from the ADC. I don't think there's a way to lower ADC resolution at the ADC itself.
on Jun 30, 2014, Leonardo S. Cardoso wrote:
Hello everyone,
I excuse myself on advance by my noob question...
I have an N
Assuming that you're not just dropping samples -- are you getting 'O' on your receiver console?
If that isn't the case, then the most likely reason is that UDP doesn't guarantee a reliable channel, and if you're routing these UDP packets over a significant-sized IP network, that network may be dr
Also, you're sending data at 6.25Msps, with complex-float samples, which chews up:
6.25e6 x 8 bytes/second
= 400Mbit/second, without accounting for headers and other overhead.
You might want to re-think your architecture, if you're going to be sending this data over the network.
on Jul
I'm talking about the UDP traffic between the host and the N2xx device.
on Jul 16, 2014, madengr wrote:
Marcus,What OS are you using? I had the same issue (UDP not getting through onreceive side) with Fedora 20, even with Firewall "supposedly" turned off(i.e. Trusted Zone selected). Manuall
Indeed, the only reason to run things under "sudo" is when you're doing something that needs root privilege, like updating system files
(such as when you do a sudo make install), or you're trying ot get access to some resource that an ordinary user doesn't have access to.
Ordinary applications
Wolfgang:
You may find the skeleton code (derived from a GRC file) attached here to be useful. Note that for 4 DDCs, you'll need the 4rx FPGA image.
on May 26, 2013, Josh Blum wrote:
On 05/26/2013 01:10 PM, Wolfgang Buesser wrote:> Hello> > I am using a usrp1 populated with 2 LFRX and 2 L
There was a problem briefly after the Gnu Radio repos were updated to 3.7 where a test in build-gnuradio for files being there after the GIT checkout of Gnu Radio.
But this was fixed in build-gnuradio a couple of days ago.
on May 31, 2013, Frankie Rawlins wrote:
Hi,
I have had this probl
Indeed, the only way to do this is to use a signal generator with known power levels, and precision attenuators. You'll have to repeat the process over the full tuning range of the device(s) in question, since effective gain will change a little with tuned frequency--that's just a natural property
How old is your build-gnuradio?
A fix went in for osmosdr sometime last week--Thursday night.
on Jun 03, 2013, Ben Z wrote:
Hi.
Decided to refresh my system, started clean with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bits on an I3 system.
Had to re-install Gnuradio and noticed that the build-gnuradio scri
, Guy
You can use "test_pps_input" which is one of the UHD examples. Also, LED 'E' tells you whether the clock is locked to the external reference.
-- Marcus Leech Principal Investigator Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium http://www.sbrac.org
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some time, the> two clocks have drifted apart unfavourably in terms of allowing you >to schedule things far enough in advance, relative to the USRP clock.> PC clocks are *terrible* by themselves. They'll drift significant >fractions of a second on a daily basis without any outsid
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