Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > It also shows that KDE SIG actually has more and/or more efficient packaging > (as opposed to upstream development) manpower than the GNOME folks, unlike > what has been frequently claimed. I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010/8/3 Jon Ciesla : >> Also I think that with >> wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has been merged >> into mainline. So wouldn't it be better to concentrate on wordpress 3? >> > > > Well, yes, probably.  That might even help with the bundled library > situation.  But that's an is

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

I wrote: > s/desktop/GNOME/ > > KDE packages are tracking upstream closely and are regularly updated, > including upstream bugfixes. Plus, we backport or sometimes even develop > bugfixes of our own. > > To me, this shows that a model where upstream versions are tracked by > updates is much more

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Matthias Clasen wrote: > I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back now. So our manpower > should be even again :-) LOL, it's true that you do a lot of work all by yourself. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 08/03/2010 09:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > PS: And since PulseAudio is a shared technology also used by other desktops > than just GNOME, I'd be willing to pick up comaintainership, but then it'd > very likely be maintained in KDE SIG style, aggressively tracking upstream > development. IMO

Re: git branch help?

Neal Becker wrote: > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update > f13: [snip a bunch of git tribulations] It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even the maintainer of another DVCS cannot figure it out! Git just has to do everything in i

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate > and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise > disputes will make the process worse and not better. This (or rather, the differences in update conception) is exactly why I h

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 08/03/2010 09:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate >> and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise >> disputes will make the process worse and not better. > This (or rather, the di

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push > [snip] > > There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. > > The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push being diffe

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I believe a co-maintainer if he/she wants to collaborate wouldn't > constrained by differences in approaches and can participate and help > out regardless of that. If you review bug reports, I suspect you will > find ways to help. It just requires letting go of the notion

Re: git branch help?

Matt McCutchen wrote: > Are you comparing git to Mercurial or to a centralized VCS? Both. Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a broken (*) and unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. (*) e.g. because of the strong reliance on hashes, which can make the whole thin

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 08/03/2010 10:04 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> I believe a co-maintainer if he/she wants to collaborate wouldn't >> constrained by differences in approaches and can participate and help >> out regardless of that. If you review bug reports, I suspect you will >> find ways t

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Since there is no new upstream release, you will have to triage bugs, > cherry pick patches and push them as updates. What else do you mean by > tracking upstream closely? If there's no new release, I'd just ship a snapshot. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list de

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 08/03/2010 10:15 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Since there is no new upstream release, you will have to triage bugs, >> cherry pick patches and push them as updates. What else do you mean by >> tracking upstream closely? > If there's no new release, I'd just ship a snapsho

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 06:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > Are you comparing git to Mercurial or to a centralized VCS? > > Both. Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a > broken (*) and unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. > > (*) e.g. bec

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 03:06:07AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push > [snip] > > There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. > > The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push bein

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 06:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a > [...] unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. I can't reproduce either issue. :D > broken (*) > (*) e.g. because of the strong reliance on hashes, which can make the

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 05:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update > > f13: > [snip a bunch of git tribulations] > > It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even > the maintainer of

Re: git branch help?

Matt McCutchen wrote: > "Broken" in the past tense is inaccurate: no SHA-1 collision has been > published yet. I would like to see DVCSes switch to a stronger hash > algorithm sooner rather than later, but it's not enough of a concern > that I would avoid using them. If it makes you feel any bett

Re: git branch help?

Matt McCutchen wrote: > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was necessary to > switch to that branch in order to perform the merge (well,

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:10:06AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > For sequential commit numbering, try "git describe". > > Nobody actually uses those numbers though statements with "nobody" or "everybody" can be easily disproven so you might want to reword or narrow down your definition of "nobo

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:16:23AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was nece

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nevertheless, if you really want to try this method, use > http://repos.fedorapeople.org, No thanks. repos.fedorapeople.org is a very sorry excuse for a PPA infrastructure, it's basically only storage with a list of repos, you have to manage everything by hand, there's n

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 08:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I'm not talking about intentional collisions, I'm talking about accidental > collisions, which ALL hash algorithms are vulnerable to, no matter how > strong. Hashes are inherently non-injective and mathematically CANNOT be > otherwise. Now

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Nevertheless, if you really want to try this method, use > > http://repos.fedorapeople.org, > > No thanks. repos.fedorapeople.org is a very sorry excuse for a PPA > infrastructure, it's basically only storage with a

Re: git branch help?

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 08:16 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was necessary t

Re: git branch help?

Peter Hutterer wrote: > I think this may be the main issue here - there is no meaning of "newer" > in git. There is a partial order given by ancestry, and 2 revisions you want to compare WILL in general be ordered. (In fact, whenever it makes sense to numerically compare SVN revision IDs, the co

Re: git branch help?

Matt McCutchen wrote: > That's not strictly true: you're welcome to write svn-git. But the > point is taken, and that's why I invited clarification as to the reasons > for choosing git. Bolting a distributed client onto a central server makes sense. A central client with a distributed server doe

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

On Sunday, August 01, 2010 09:24:28 am Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty > important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last > update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in > the co

Re: The move to git!

Josh Stone writes: > A git trick I'd like fedpkg to learn is to use separate url/pushurl, > e.g. in .git/config: > > [remote "origin"] > fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* > url = git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/foo > pushurl = ssh://u...@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/foo Or mor

Re: The move to git!

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:08:37AM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > I think you need to get the latest package from koji so it points to > the live git repos and not the test ones. yes, the old version (which is still in F-12) uses pkgs.stg.fedoraproject.org, but the right URL is pkgs.fe

Re: repos.fedorapeople.org

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:04:20PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'm happy to announce the availability of repos.fedorapeople.org. Cool. It would be nice to have a support for this in koji. Now you have to download all rpms from koji to your local machine and then upload by rsync to repos.fedorape

rawhide report: 20100802 changes

Compose started at Mon Aug 2 08:15:19 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- CGAL-3.6.1-1.fc14.i686 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.1.41.0 CGAL-3.6.1-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.1.41.0()(64bit) LuxRender-0

Orphaning wp_tray

Hi, Upstream seems to have disappeared Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ACLs working with dist-git?

On 08/02/2010 12:22 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:04:08 -0400 > Adam Goode wrote: > >> On 08/01/2010 09:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> rpm -q fedora-packager >>> >>> Are you using a version older than 0.5.0 ? >>> >>> If so, you are hitting the old staging repo, and not the curre

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:28 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > What we really need > is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora > and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that > shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a madn

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Is Available Now!

Am Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:20:35 -0700 schrieb John Reiser : > > F-14 Alpha TC1 has been posted for testing: > > > > * http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/ > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620274 > pyconfig-32.h and [respectively] pyconfig-64.h are missing. > Th

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

On 07/30/2010 10:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0200 > Sven Lankes wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 03:28:42PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> I think we should add some policy to address those unmaintained packages, >> >>> There is the non-responsive main

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Is Available Now!

On 08/02/10 13:23, Thomas Spura wrote: > Am Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:20:35 -0700 > schrieb John Reiser : > >>> F-14 Alpha TC1 has been posted for testing: >>> >>> * http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/ >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620274 >> pyconfig-32.h and

[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Available Now!

Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following pages for download links and testing instructions. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Ideally, all

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

2010/8/2 James Findley : > On 07/30/2010 10:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0200 > Remember that some packages get very little activity because they need > very little. > Increasing someone's AWOLness counter because they didn't for example, > update ed is just plain sill

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:31:22 +0100, James wrote: > Remember that some packages get very little activity because they need > very little. And these are not a problem at all. > Increasing someone's AWOLness counter because they didn't for example, > update ed is just plain silly. [snipped the r

RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

Hi, In the package jai-imageio-core, my patches contain RCS keywords that are part of the patch or context. These include $RCSfile$, $Date$, etc. After the dist-git conversion, my patches are now different. It seems that keyword substitution was in effect though it never happened before. The patc

Is PulseAudio dead?

Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] * there was not fixed a single bug last six months (since 2010-02-23) [2][3] * there are not only "not pulseaudio, but alsa is

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

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Broken dependencies: perl-Data-Alias

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[Bug 620459] New: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620459 Summary: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch Product

Re: [389-devel] Solaris 10 SPARC support for ds

Ogun Heper wrote: > Hi all, > > I don't know if this is the right place to ask but i want to learn if > support will be available for Solaris 10 SPARC in the upcoming > releases of 389 Directory Server? What do you mean by "support"? > > FAQ >

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) Why is it not making it into composes? (1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=186994 - -- Stephen

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

Stephen Gallagher wrote, at 08/03/2010 01:24 AM +9:00: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 > > This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) > > Why is it not making it into composes? > > > (1) http

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

On Monday, August 02, 2010 11:24:09 am Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 > > This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) > > Why is it not making it into composes? > > > (1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildi

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:29 PM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Stephen Gallagher wrote, at 08/03/2010 01:24 AM +9:00: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>> python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 >> >> This

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me > to this conclusion? Well look at this: > * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] > * there was not fixed a single bug last six month

Re: The move to git!

On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> fedpkg build >> fedpkg build >> Traceback (most recent call last): >>File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 959, in >> args.command(args) >>Fil

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: > Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches > myself. I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS keywords. I could try re-converting it using git cvsimpor

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

- "Lennart Poettering" wrote: > > No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did > other > stuff. > > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something > about > whether development

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's unnecessarily antagonistic. Please stop. - -- Jesse Keatin

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's > unnecessa

Wordpress testers needed!

In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds. If someone familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to make sure the changes don't break anything and let me know, what would be wonderful and a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's > unnecessa

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >  In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on > bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds.  If someone > familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to > make sure the changes don't break a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 17:07 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > - "Jesse Keating" wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > > users. > > > >

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > Would "Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something new." be less > antagonistic? No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're just intentionally being rude. I ask again, please try to

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about > whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have > devoted my life to

Re: The move to git!

On 08/02/2010 07:02 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: fedpkg build fedpkg build Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 959, in a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:52 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > The fact that the question was asked suggests to me that perhaps one > should rethink what and how they are doing things. People have had > this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Erm, what complaint? That it's dea

Re: The move to git!

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Everybody was bitching about CVS for years, I'm pretty sure I wasn't. But I'll still pile on with a +1 for the switch over to git -jef"getting git to compile on qnx is no fun"spaleta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead >> me to this conclusion? Well look at this: >> * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] >> * there was

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

- "Carl G." wrote: > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > you can get "real work" done. /s > > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot and is a perfect example of why public emails work. -- Bob ---

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

On 08/01/2010 12:55 PM, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 30.07.2010 17:28, Tom "spot" Callaway pisze: >> On 07/30/2010 11:10 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 07/30/2010 03:16 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: So I just created: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/ Anyone want to help me te

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 02/08/10 19:20, Carl G. wrote: > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. :( I just made popcorn. All ppl can get {insert emotion here} and never, ever get close to a pregnant Stag. :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing lis

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

On 08/02/2010 01:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: >> Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches >> myself. > > I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS > keywords. I could try re-converting it using git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > Would "Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something > new." be less antagonistic? > > No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're just intention

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On 08/02/2010 11:59 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > Yes, never criticise the mothership or it's employees. I forgot that rule, I > am so sorry. I will drop it now... > > Yes, I needed to toss in this last barb. I have a right to express my > opinions for now, even if they are unpopular with a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Erm, what complaint? That it's dead? I've never heard that one before. > Mostly, people seem to complain when it gets changed, not when it > doesn't. The gods of irony are pleased indeed. However, this maybe a case where it would be good

Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

Start End Name Wed 26-May Tue 03-Aug Packaging and Development (precedes Alpha) Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Alpha Change Deadline Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Software String Freeze Thu 05-Aug Thu 05-Aug Compose Alpha Candidate Fri 06-Aug Fri 06-Aug Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4 We

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 "Carl G." wrote: > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > you can get "real work" done. /s > > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. Thanks Carl. Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio bugs? Try and f

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > - "Carl G." wrote: > > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > > you can get "real work" done. /s > > > > Let me know if you need some help to > > make the stats looks pretty. > > Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot and is a p

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 11:55 AM, Adam Goode wrote: > Didn't want this to get lost, thanks for fixing this on IRC, but I don't > have an f14 branch now. Got that fixed for ya. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jke

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > >> >> - "Carl G." wrote: >>> Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >>> you can get "real work" done. /s >>> >>> Let me know if you need some help to >

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. = Followups = #topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351 #topic #382 Imp

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 > "Carl G." wrote: > >> Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >> you can get "real work" done. /s >> >> Let me know if you need some help to >> make the stats looks pretty. > > Thanks Carl. > > Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping da

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me > > to this conclusion? Well look at this: > > * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSI

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 > > Broken deps for x86_64 > -- > barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 requires > libboost_serialization.so.1.41.0()(64bit) Barry is my

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: > On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: > > Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 > > > > Broken deps for x86_64 > > -- > > barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 req

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

On 08/02/2010 02:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: > >> On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: >>> Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 >>> >>> Broken deps for x86_64 >>> -

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 1:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Your rebuild is in updates-testing. Does the F-14 Branched Report > cover updates-testing? (During the F-13 dev cycle, it did not, and I created > a separate broken deps report for F-13 Branched + updates-

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 21:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > Unfortunately, I could not found the summaries of t

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:40:59 +0200 Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 02.08.2010 21:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on

Summary/Minutes from FESCo meeting (2010-07-27)

=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-07-27) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-27/fesco.2010-07-27-19.30.log.html .. Meeting summary ---

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 22:54, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > > I'll get it sent right after this. Thanks for noticing... I am > glad folks are reading them and find them helpfull. > Thank you for your response. I think not all people have the time to following a meeti

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:58:56PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. I'm sorry I cannot be at this meeting, but could fixing this bug be discussed: h

Asterisk 1.8 in Rawhide (F-15)

I've just built Asterisk 1.8.0 Beta 2 for Rawhide (F-15).  The packages are completely untested at this point so I make no guarantees at this point about it's usability.  I'll be doing some testing on my own but I'd appreciate any testing that anyone else can do. Since we have already passed F-14'

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:01:02 -0400, Carl wrote: > Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio bugs? > Sure, i'm willing to _try_ to help if we > can get Lennart to participate and/or pulseaudio experts to assist > us. > > Pulseaudio is currently marked as "Only for PA experts"

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: >> People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other.  

Re: Can anyone contact Balint Christian (rezso)?

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 12:27:53PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > openlayers I have taken openlayers. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: s...@lankes.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

Jesse Keating said the following on 07/30/2010 10:00 AM Pacific Time: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 06:00 AM, John Poelstra wrote: >> Jesse Keating said the following on 07/29/2010 09:03 PM Pacific Time: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>>

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > >> >> - "Carl G." wrote: >> > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >> > you can get "real work" done. /s >> > >> > Let me know if you need some help to >> > make the stats looks pretty. >>

Announcing FUDCon Tempe 2011 -- Jan. 29-31, 2011

In the past, the planning and execution of FUDCon events was handled completely by a few Red Hat employees. This seemed out of alignment with the principles of Fedora, so in late January of this year, we kicked off an effort to fix that issue. We wanted to increase the effectiveness and transpare

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