Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2014-01-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2013 Jörg Schmidt wrote: The members of the German community would like to approach you with our wish to install a second mailing list (dev...@openoffice.apache.org) moderated by Jörg, Raphael und Michael (Stehmann). List is now ready. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-71

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > > _if_ the "de" disturbs, then we must also rename the > "users-de", _if_ "users-de" is OK, so is also "dev-de" OK ... > this is the point. > > > > I've never said anything against the "de" part. I wanted to insinuate anything, but I had no othe

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > >> > You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to >> change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a >> software aimed at end users. >> > >> >> I was trying to make a slightly

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:32 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for > effective working > > Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > By "de-team @"

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jörg Schmidt wrote: By "de-team @" I agree, and maybe that's for Rob OK, (for he had the word "team" is suggested), then there would currently consensus. I think there was a misunderstanding here. A mailing list for discussions in German must be named XYZ-de for a certain value of XYZ. "dev-

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > local-de-team@ > > > > or > > > > de-team@ > > > > (which contains _your_ word "team") > > > > > > Better? > > "team" is really better and to put "de" at first, mix-ups are > eleminated. > > +1 Fine. By "de-team @" I agree, and maybe tha

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > > >> Just make clear (e.g., here: > >> http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html or ) that it > is used to > >> coordinate the work in German-speaking countries, then it > >> should be fine. > > > > Yes, true, but how do we do that? > >

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2013 11:39 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for the right ML it could happen that the "-de" is overlooked and then you get German mails i

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2013 11:39 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a software aimed at end users. I was trying to make a slightly different observation.

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread jan i
On 15 December 2013 11:39, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > > > Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? > > > > The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for > > the right > > ML it could happen that the "-de" is overlooked and the

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? > > The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for > the right > ML it could happen that the "-de" is overlooked and then you > get German > mails into the international ML. Or

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > > You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to > change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a > software aimed at end users. > > > > I was trying to make a slightly different observation. We have the > ASF which is a foun

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > >> > *In OOo it was possible for many years, are members of AOO >> project less wise, to distinguish it?* >> > >> >> >> >> But I've a suggestion. ;-) >> >> >> >> What about to name the new ML like

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/13/2013 03:43 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but wish it could be named something other than "dev-de" so it doesn't get confused with dev@openoffice.apache.org. But...I don't have any sug

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-13 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > > *In OOo it was possible for many years, are members of AOO > project less wise, to distinguish it?* > > > >> > >> But I've a suggestion. ;-) > >> > >> What about to name the new ML like what its purpose should be > >> (coordinate the project work)

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: There is no "German project". There is the AOO project, and there is a subset of people interested in German language conferences, the German portion of the website, etc. The way to limit the confusion is to give a clear description on the webpage where we list the native langua

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >> > In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but >> wish it could be >> > named something other than "dev-de" so it doesn't get confused with >> > dev@openoffice.apache.org. Bu

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but > wish it could be > > named something other than "dev-de" so it doesn't get confused with > > dev@openoffice.apache.org. But...I don't have any suggestions. > > hm yes, that's a go

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/12/2013 11:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Jörg Schmidtwrote: From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for > > effecti

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for > effective working > > jan i wrote: > > +1 from me, my only concern is

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
jan i wrote: +1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important information is not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about how to compile etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that this happens. It depends on the focus, but from Joerg's initial descripti

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> +1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important > information is > not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about > how to compile > etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that > this happens. I do not understand the problem. By de-community is nothing

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread jan i
+1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important information is not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about how to compile etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that this happens. rgds jan I. On 11 December 2013 10:32, Arthur Buijs wrote: > +1 > > Fr

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Arthur Buijs
+1 From the Netherlands. Regards, Arthur RA Stehmann schreef op 11-12-2013 9:44: > +1 > > It's not only Open Rhein Ruhr, but also FOSDEM (Brussels), Chemnitzer > Linuxtage (Chemnitz, Saxonia), FrOSCon (St.Augustin - near Bonn) and > T-Dose (Eindhoven) we participate. > > Regards > Michael (Steh

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread RA Stehmann
+1 It's not only Open Rhein Ruhr, but also FOSDEM (Brussels), Chemnitzer Linuxtage (Chemnitz, Saxonia), FrOSCon (St.Augustin - near Bonn) and T-Dose (Eindhoven) we participate. Regards Michael (Stehmann) On 11.12.2013 09:22, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > The members of the German community w

German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, The members of the German community would like to approach you with our wish to install a second mailing list (dev...@openoffice.apache.org) moderated by Jörg, Raphael und Michael (Stehmann). The purpose of this separate list would be to distinguish general user questions from specific