On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > >> > You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to >> change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a >> software aimed at end users. >> > >> >> I was trying to make a slightly different observation. We have the >> ASF which is a foundation. The foundation includes many projects == >> Top Level Projects, Incubator, etc. We should not be calling anything >> else a "project". This is different from OOo where we had other >> things called "projects", e.g., the "marketing project", etc. > > This part of your considerations has my consent (*) and should _not_ _now_ be > subject. > > (*) > by which I mean I respect the decision of the Foundation as it is. That does > not mean I will not work to the Foundation the changes her mind to it ( not > now, but maybe in 5-10 years ) > > > Now please let's talk about the risk of confusion by the "de" talk: > > The argument was not logical, because the situation is already (and has been > for more than 2 years!) that _there is_ a mailing list > users...@openoffice.apache.org. > > So if the "de" in the name of a mailing list, suitable to donate to the > confusion there would be a "German project", do it this mailing list > _already_. > > Logic is simple logic, and that is: > > _if_ the "de" disturbs, then we must also rename the "users-de", _if_ > "users-de" is OK, so is also "dev-de" OK ... this is the point. >
I've never said anything against the "de" part. >> If we want to avoid confusion, especially when talking to other parts >> of Apache, we should think of a different term to use in these cases. >> Something like team, mission, special interest group, subcommittee, >> function, area, etc. > > "team" or "special interest group" is OK for me, but it's a German speaking > group. > *If we do not mark, it is just as misleading as some others.* > > The point is _not_ that we _want_ to speak German, but we _have_ to speak > German for the concrete work in Germany. > > Is it really only the "de" what bothers you? No, I have never said that. > *Then let us find a replacement for it, because I do not "de" not important, > but just any marking that is the list in German.* > > the proposal of Marcus was: > > project-de @ > > and if that does not seem good, as would be with, for example: > > local-de-team@ > > or > > de-team@ > > (which contains _your_ word "team") > > > Better? > Anything of these are fine, including project-de. I just want to make sure we describe it as a list for AOO project members conversing in German, *not* a list for a German Project (which doesn't exist). Regards, -Rob > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
