> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
> > You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to > change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a > software aimed at end users. > > > > I was trying to make a slightly different observation. We have the > ASF which is a foundation. The foundation includes many projects == > Top Level Projects, Incubator, etc. We should not be calling anything > else a "project". This is different from OOo where we had other > things called "projects", e.g., the "marketing project", etc. This part of your considerations has my consent (*) and should _not_ _now_ be subject. (*) by which I mean I respect the decision of the Foundation as it is. That does not mean I will not work to the Foundation the changes her mind to it ( not now, but maybe in 5-10 years ) Now please let's talk about the risk of confusion by the "de" talk: The argument was not logical, because the situation is already (and has been for more than 2 years!) that _there is_ a mailing list users...@openoffice.apache.org. So if the "de" in the name of a mailing list, suitable to donate to the confusion there would be a "German project", do it this mailing list _already_. Logic is simple logic, and that is: _if_ the "de" disturbs, then we must also rename the "users-de", _if_ "users-de" is OK, so is also "dev-de" OK ... this is the point. > If we want to avoid confusion, especially when talking to other parts > of Apache, we should think of a different term to use in these cases. > Something like team, mission, special interest group, subcommittee, > function, area, etc. "team" or "special interest group" is OK for me, but it's a German speaking group. *If we do not mark, it is just as misleading as some others.* The point is _not_ that we _want_ to speak German, but we _have_ to speak German for the concrete work in Germany. Is it really only the "de" what bothers you? *Then let us find a replacement for it, because I do not "de" not important, but just any marking that is the list in German.* the proposal of Marcus was: project-de @ and if that does not seem good, as would be with, for example: local-de-team@ or de-team@ (which contains _your_ word "team") Better? Greetings, Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org