Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-11 Thread Andrew Rist
On 12/10/2012 1:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/8/12 8:36 AM, janI wrote: On 8 December 2012 00:34, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million uses in Poland ignoring you

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/8/12 8:36 AM, janI wrote: > On 8 December 2012 00:34, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignored caveat

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 08:32:53AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > The real simplification would come if we could ever disentangle > platform dependencies from language packs. Today we have a language > pack, say, for Italian for Windows, another for Mac, another for > 32-bit Linux, etc. Why not just one

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:37 AM, janI wrote: > On 8 December 2012 00:34, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignor

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-07 Thread janI
On 8 December 2012 00:34, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > > On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: > >> > >> We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million > >> uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignored caveat and overwhelming > >> the people.apac

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >> >> We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million >> uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignored caveat and overwhelming >> the people.apache.org server. > > > This specific issue has now been solv

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignored caveat and overwhelming the people.apache.org server. This specific issue has now been solved by invoking policy (so, we will be able to put builds on people.apac

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 05:55:53PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> And btw, just so you can see that I'm not just making stuff up, please >> note the ASF Releases Policy page: >> >> "What Is A Release? > > [...] > >> http://www.apache.org/de

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-05 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 05:55:53PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > And btw, just so you can see that I'm not just making stuff up, please > note the ASF Releases Policy page: > > "What Is A Release? [...] > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html > > Hopefully that is clearer than my unsuccessfully att

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/4/12 10:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >> On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: >>> having all language packs built, not advertising them on our website >>> (that said, note that the dev. snapshots hosted on people.apache.org are >>> advertise

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39:59PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> based on some earlier discussion I think we have reached more common >>> consensus that we 1. want

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:00:13PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >> If we want something to be downloaded and used by the public then we >>> >> should release it, period. We should no

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:00:13PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> If we want something to be downloaded and used by the public then we >> >> should release it, period. We should not be looking for clever ways >> >> to avoid the importan

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: >>> >>> having all language packs built, not advertising them on our website >>> (that said, note that the dev. snapshots hosted on people.apache.org

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: having all language packs built, not advertising them on our website (that said, note that the dev. snapshots hosted on people.apache.org are advertised on the main download page ;) ). And the goal is to point

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:00:13PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > >> If we want something to be downloaded and used by the public then we > >> should release it, period. We should not be looking for clever ways > >> to avoid the important release steps of verifying IP, producing a > >> source package an

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 02:13:49PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> Any opinions, concerns or feedback? Follow up discussion should take >> place on the dev list only (the list where decisions are made). > > It may be a good idea

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 02:13:49PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > Any opinions, concerns or feedback? Follow up discussion should take > place on the dev list only (the list where decisions are made). > >>> > >>> It may be a good idea to build all languages, or at least those with 80% > >>> of

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:04:28PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39:59PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, based on some earlier di

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:04:28PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39:59PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> based on some earlier discussion I think we have reached more common > >> consensus tha

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39:59PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> based on some earlier discussion I think we have reached more common >> consensus that we 1. want release further languages for AOO 3.4 1 and 2. >> how we ca

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39:59PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > based on some earlier discussion I think we have reached more common > consensus that we 1. want release further languages for AOO 3.4 1 and 2. > how we can do that. > > To make it more concrete I have created a new wiki pa

[RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, based on some earlier discussion I think we have reached more common consensus that we 1. want release further languages for AOO 3.4 1 and 2. how we can do that. To make it more concrete I have created a new wiki page [1] where I would like to document the release process, the proposed releas

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Andrew Rist
On 11/23/2012 8:14 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:00:54 +0100 jan iversen wrote: Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages. There is a disadvantage to that: such an installation ha

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM, 胡其图 wrote: > Hi there, > I am a mongolian where living in inner mongolia, china. and I want to build a > traditional mongolian AOO if it possible. > and I know there have a slav mongolian AOO, but this is not similar to > traditional mongolian. > tell me how to a

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Johanne Mathisen Tandberg
Cancel me from the maling list Johanne Den 26. nov. 2012 kl. 04:51 skrev "Shenfeng Liu" : > Welcome to join AOO! > I suggest you can start from our New Volunteer Orientation page for how to > do translation: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/translate.html . > And besides the dev@openoff

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/26/12 10:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 23/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes >> We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the >> office with the new languages and release the new languages as >> convenience

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 23/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the office with the new languages and release the new languages as convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-25 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Welcome to join AOO! I suggest you can start from our New Volunteer Orientation page for how to do translation: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/translate.html . And besides the dev@openoffice.apache.org mail group, you should also subscript to l...@openoffice.apache.org, by sending an ema

Re:[RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-25 Thread 胡其图
Hi there, I am a mongolian where living in inner mongolia, china. and I want to build a traditional mongolian AOO if it possible. and I know there have a slav mongolian AOO, but this is not similar to traditional mongolian. tell me how to add about a language for traditional mongolian? At

Fwd: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-25 Thread Rob Weir
25, 2012 at 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org I would like to add support for Assamese language. It is widely used in the state of Assam, India. Please guide me the steps on how to get it started. I have a couple of willing volunteers. On

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-25 Thread Dhrubajyoti Gogoi
I would like to add support for Assamese language. It is widely used in the state of Assam, India. Please guide me the steps on how to get it started. I have a couple of willing volunteers. On 24 November 2012 04:51, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > wrote:

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is > growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible > available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available > in further lang

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 11/23/2012 09:39 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available in further languages to reach mor

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 11/23/2012 03:30 PM, schrieb jan iversen: If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language packsa bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! Then for these new languages the 1-click-download will not work as the full install files are missing. In the ol

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/23/12 3:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:30 AM, jan iversen wrote: >> If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language >> packsa bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! >> > > I'm just thinking ahead, to the very real possibility that

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/23/12 5:14 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:00:54 +0100 > jan iversen wrote: > >> Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does >> provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages. > > There is a disadvantage to that: such an insta

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:00:54 +0100 jan iversen wrote: > Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does > provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages. There is a disadvantage to that: such an installation has to have on-line access at install time. T

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages. jan On 23 November 2012 16:58, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:00:38 +0100 > jan iversen wrote: > > > Following your thought... > > > > Would

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:00:38 +0100 jan iversen wrote: > Following your thought... > > Would it not be an idea, if we defined the binary to be en-US always, and > then modify the installation scripts to include the proper language pack ?? > > Please see it as an open question, I do not know if t

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
Following your thought... Would it not be an idea, if we defined the binary to be en-US always, and then modify the installation scripts to include the proper language pack ?? Please see it as an open question, I do not know if there are other implications. I have for some time (years) downloaded

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:30 AM, jan iversen wrote: > If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language > packsa bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! > I'm just thinking ahead, to the very real possibility that we're adding new languages on a continual bas

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language packsa bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! Jan. On 23 November 2012 15:01, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > we all know that the number of volun

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is > growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible > available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available > in further langu

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 23.11.2012 09:39, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available in further languages to reach mor

Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
On 23 November 2012 09:39, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is > growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible > available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available > in further languages

[RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available in further languages to reach more users. Second to show our volunteers that their