Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 11:41 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >HI, > >> I'm not sure I understand your line of questioning. Don't we make the >> same assumptions for any other third party, like the Flat fonts, for >> example? > >IMO this is different, as only you have been contacted by Adobe legal and >only you

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > I'm not sure I understand your line of questioning. Don't we make the > same assumptions for any other third party, like the Flat fonts, for > example? IMO this is different, as only you have been contacted by Adobe legal and only you know what changes they are asking for. > If their leg

Re: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread yishayw
Looks good on the flash side. I'll try the JS side later. I made a mini video tutorial using your scheme: Create a workspace, import projects http://screencast.com/t/EHOi7gKp7 Add projects http://screencast.com/t/9ms4qEwTs2nV Play with SDK and see results http://screencast.com/t/uDsssfGUEsM

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 11:16 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >> ... but where the Mavenizer causes the >> distribution Adobe artifacts, Adobe Legal will want to review how it >>looks >> as well before it goes final. > >So they will want to review release candidates and the like? No, there is no release candida

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > No need to re-release anything at this point, and I doubt Adobe will push > for it. Good to hear. > ... but where the Mavenizer causes the > distribution Adobe artifacts, Adobe Legal will want to review how it looks > as well before it goes final. So they will want to review release candi

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
No need to re-release anything at this point, and I doubt Adobe will push for it. These changes are not final yet. Adobe Legal wanted to see how it looked, and our community deserved to see how it might look before it goes final. Adobe might have further suggestions, then we'll have a better idea

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, In order to comply with whatever it was that Adobe legal sent you, can you please explain: - What needs to change in the mazinizer? - What needs to be to change in the scripts that install the Flash player / AIR versions and build an SDK for use with an IDE? (see scripts in FLexSDK /ide and

Re: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Chris will probably have a better answer, but where I said "run Ant in the repo", you can also "run Maven in the repo". The results should be the same. Maven might take a bit longer since by default it compiles all of the examples. There's probably a way around that that Chris can tell us. -

Re: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Carlos, I didn't understand this at all. I guess I just don't understand why we have to have one way to build things. It doesn't seem like the Apache Way to say "no, you can't have an Ant build". I just want to get the Maven stuff to the minimum releasable state, release it, get folks to try

Re: [FlexJS]ArrayCollection

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Please don't copy in the regular Flex ArrayCollection. IIRC it drags in a whole ton of crap. If you want sorting, maybe add sorting beads to ArrayList or a subclass of ArrayList. No need to bake sorting functionality into a particular collection implementation. We want loosely-coupled, pay-as-y

Re: Volunteers Needed

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Roman, Everyone participating in FlexJS is a volunteer! We are definitely looking for more example applications and all kinds of other help. Looking forward to your participation. -Alex On 7/7/16, 12:46 PM, "Roman Kraminskij" wrote: >Hi! >Can i connect to FlexJS project as Volunteer? >(Wri

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@flex.apache.org:gte=70d:Adobe%20lega l On 7/7/16, 8:44 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >Where were these changes discussed? It changes what is required by the >user legally to do when running through the installer. > >It may of been a request from Adobe’s

Re: [3/5] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - update license acceptance per Adobe legal

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Where were these changes discussed? It changes what is required by the user legally to do when running through the installer. It may of been a request from Adobe’s to you, but remember if it didn’t happen on list then it didn’t happen. Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopting AS3Commons

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > IMO, it is all under ALv2, so we can do what we want. Probably not the case for all files, from a quick look via [1] see [2] (copyright Adobe), [3] is MIT Licensed (along with 8 odd other files), [4] is also MIT license (again along with 8 other files). I’ve not looked into any of these

Volunteers Needed

2016-07-07 Thread Roman Kraminskij
Hi! Can i connect to FlexJS project as Volunteer? (Writing Example Applications - category) Have 10 years of as3/flex expierence. https://www.behance.net/ShockWave2048 Thanks for the time! -- -- Best Regards! Roma Kraminskij skype: swa512

AW: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Right now I have to cry a little ... I'll respond tomorrow ;-) Chris Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Carlos Rovira Datum: 07.07.16 20:41 (GMT+01:00) An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

Re: [FlexJS]ArrayCollection

2016-07-07 Thread Harbs
It looks like there’s one place where I’m actually using ArrayCollection to do object sorting. I might need to work around this issue or bring in ArrayCollection. On Jul 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 7/6/16, 7:04 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > >> I use ArrayCollection a lot in my F

Re: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

2016-07-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, I think people of TI enviroments would want a tech like this that rely on maven, but thinking on what people expect to have on his own CI process, we need to be pure maven (without ANT hacks that would make this not valid). So my vote is to rely only on maven, since if not it will defeats the

Re: [FlexJS] FlexJS vs. AngularJS 2.0

2016-07-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
It's sure that Angular or React has more things right now (and many devs right now enrolling their rows), but FlexJS is not comparable right now. Looking at the way and speed things are happening here, I should expect FlexJS to be a great technology in the next 6 or 12 months, with many thinks othe

RE: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Yishay Weiss
I’ll have a go at Alex’s suggestions later. I didn’t want to disrupt my env while working. Chris, I’m open to moving to maven. Can you explain what the workflow, as I described it in the beginning of the thread, would look like? From: Alex Harui Sent: Thursday, July 7,

Re: [DISCUSS] Alerts and Dialogs in FlexJS

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Adobe is on holiday this week so I will answer for Peter. There are org.apache.flex.html.Alert and SimpleAlert classes. SimpleAlert wraps JavaScript alert and has no options. Alert is more like mx.controls.Alert. Other than Panel, there is no "base class" for dialogs. Feel free to make one if

Re: AW: AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 7:54 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >I thought it wouldn't allow transcoding the fonts so they could embed >them, but does it also not allow embedding SWF resources? I know that I >came across lots of projects, where the graphical resources were provided >by an SWF that was simply incl

Re: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Because regular Flex support Ant, I think FlexJS should as well, so we will probably have some Ant support forever, at least to test that Falcon still works from Ant I will keep current Ant scripts working. Not everyone is a fan of Maven. If some other committer wants to support some other build

Re: [FlexJS] FlexJS vs. AngularJS 2.0

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Probably true, but that's why we need volunteers to help us. Lots of small contributions can really add up. And Apache projects are not controlled by commercial entities so your contributions can have more impact. Thanks, -Alex On 7/7/16, 2:00 AM, "anshumanpradippatil1506" wrote: >I have work

AW: [Falcon] Move the Ant task code into a separate module?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
I would like to as this is part of the cleanup process and the current version doesn't produce a antTargets jar. But I'm not demanding this to be finished before a release. Chris Von: Alex Harui Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2016 16:51:17 An: dev@flex.apache.

AW: AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
I thought it wouldn't allow transcoding the fonts so they could embed them, but does it also not allow embedding SWF resources? I know that I came across lots of projects, where the graphical resources were provided by an SWF that was simply included as a resource. Chris _

Re: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
The key thing we need to decide here is whether folks who want to develop using IDEs will need to run a Maven or Ant before importing the projects into the IDEs and that the IDEs will properly handle regeneration of the config files. The IDEs currently use config files checked into the repo, inste

Re: [Falcon] Move the Ant task code into a separate module?

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
Makes sense. Do we want to do this before we release 0.7.0? On 7/7/16, 7:46 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Hi, > > >while working on the distribution, I was confused why there was an >"ant.jar" in my "lib/ext" directory. I noticed pretty soon that the >compiler seems to contain the flex ant task

Re: AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 2:00 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Hmm ... how about spinning this off into a dedicated thread? > > >Cause no matter what font we are using and if we are allowed to use it, I >sill would like to be able to provide a sensible workflow for embedding >fonts with Falcon and Maven :-) Fa

[Falcon] Move the Ant task code into a separate module?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, while working on the distribution, I was confused why there was an "ant.jar" in my "lib/ext" directory. I noticed pretty soon that the compiler seems to contain the flex ant tasks. I think they don't belong in there and I'd like to move them into a separate module. Are you ok with that?

Re: AW: [DISCUSS] Adopting AS3Commons

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
IMO, it is all under ALv2, so we can do what we want. Usually we adopt communities so we want to move the entire community in one move so there is no confusion about where the active code and discussions are and we clearly know we adopted all of the latest code. In this case, there isn't an activ

[FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, I just added a new module to the flex-asjs module called "distribution". This is a maven module that uses the maven-assembly-plugin to produce bundles of software. I am currently trying to make it automatically build installable versions of the SDK [1]. It would be cool if you could have a

Re: [FalconJX]constants

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 2:22 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >Is there a reason that FlaconJX does not simplify constants to their raw >values? If something is declared as a const I can not think of any reason >to not just optimize away the reference. > >I’m not sure how good GCC is at optimizing this stuff away, but I

Re: AW: [FlexJS]HTTP events

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
I'm not exactly sure what folks are suggesting without seeing code, so I may be repeating someone else's suggestion, but I would: 1) Use exactly as many Event classes as the Browser supports, even if it is less than what Flash supports. 2) Use exactly as many Event types (the name of the event) as

Re: [FlexJS]Error while compiling JS release

2016-07-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/7/16, 3:10 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >I’m getting the following error when compiling using the “FlaconJX Debug >and Release” launch config. The “Debug” one works fine. > >Jul 07, 2016 1:04:03 PM com.google.javascript.jscomp.LoggerErrorManager >println >SEVERE: ERROR - Duplicate extern input: >/Us

Re: [DISCUSS] Alerts and Dialogs in FlexJS

2016-07-07 Thread yishayw
Hi Peter, Is there anything I can use for dialogs or should I create something? -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Alerts-and-Dialogs-in-FlexJS-tp27505p53755.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com

AW: [FlexJS]HTTP events

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
And I still think it would be great if one type was used but platform-specific sub-types were thrown. Chris Von: Yishay Weiss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2016 15:13:55 An: Harbs; dev Betreff: RE: [FlexJS]HTTP events I also like option (2), but I think it can

RE: [FlexJS]HTTP events

2016-07-07 Thread Yishay Weiss
I also like option (2), but I think it can be merged with (1). If the event names are constants, we can conditionally compile the constants. That way the IDE won’t code complete events that are not implemented. The framework class (e.g. URLBinaryLoader) can conditionally compile to handle the fl

[FlexJS]HTTP events

2016-07-07 Thread Harbs
I’m working on full event handling for HTTP requests. Most of the events should work the same for both Flash and JS. The primary exception is security events. Browsers do not differentiate between general connection errors and CORS (i.e. security) errors. There’s no way to examine the request to

AW: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
No you I am talking about the Ant build. I am realistic enough that I know that Ant won't go away soon. We are now in a state, where we are in a parity state. Users can choose which build they want to use. Alex and the others invested quite some time to make ASJS and Falcon build in Eclipse by

Re: [FlexJS] FlexJS vs. AngularJS 2.0

2016-07-07 Thread anshumanpradippatil1506
I have worked lot with Flex and also now days working with angular2. One thing I am sure about is FlexJS is far away from angular2, This is not only about component(UI) creation there are many other thing which angular2 provides such as DI, Routing, documentation ..etc a long list -- Vie

Re: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Chris, sorry, if I ask something obvious, maybe I'm a bit lost here, but, you talk about a "Ant build". So, you still need to run an ant build? I was expecting to make the 4 mvn operations to build falcon and asjs artifacts only, and then use IntelliJ to create a pom based on some pom.xml from

[FlexJS]Error while compiling JS release

2016-07-07 Thread Harbs
I’m getting the following error when compiling using the “FlaconJX Debug and Release” launch config. The “Debug” one works fine. Jul 07, 2016 1:04:03 PM com.google.javascript.jscomp.LoggerErrorManager println SEVERE: ERROR - Duplicate extern input: /Users/harbs/Documents/git/PrintUI/printui-flex

[FalconJX]constants

2016-07-07 Thread Harbs
Is there a reason that FlaconJX does not simplify constants to their raw values? If something is declared as a const I can not think of any reason to not just optimize away the reference. I’m not sure how good GCC is at optimizing this stuff away, but I don’t see why we should have to rely on G

Re: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Hmmm ... ok so we are currently creating something a company couldn't use due > to licensing restrictions. I think this is a major problem :-( The Flat UI stuff is optional so AFAIK (is this correct?) as long as people are aware of that and abide by it’s license terms that’s all OK. [1]

AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hmm ... how about spinning this off into a dedicated thread? Cause no matter what font we are using and if we are allowed to use it, I sill would like to be able to provide a sensible workflow for embedding fonts with Falcon and Maven :-) So back to my question: Could we embed a font SWF insid

Re: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, We may not of received a replay as it may be that the newer premium version Flat UI is under non-free license terms? [1][2]. The older github version now states it's MIT and CC by 3.0 [3] (Category B) [4]. But fails to mention the non commercial bit :-( Justin 1. http://designmodo.com/fla

AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hmmm ... ok so we are currently creating something a company couldn't use due to licensing restrictions. I think this is a major problem :-( Chris Von: Justin Mclean Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2016 10:37:24 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [FlexJS] How i

Re: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Well for me the concept of defining one thing in code and loading something > different Actually doing that will probably create some legal issues, the font is question is Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported [1] which is not compatible with the Apache License other than as an

AW: AW: AW: [FlexJS] How is the Flat-UI Font SWF used in ASIS?

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well for me the concept of defining one thing in code and loading something different, by replacing file endings is not quite intuitive. It would be great if for example you could add a "swf" src, which is ignored in JavaScript and the others would be ignored in ActionSrcipt. After all packaging

AW: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Carlos, well I would like to claim that the JavaScript part is as finished as I can be, currently working on some final quirks with resources and font handling in the Flash versions. I think if we setup the Ant build to produce the output files with the same name and in the same location

Re: [FlexJS] Developer Setup

2016-07-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, I thought Maven build was now the preferred way of building FlexJS over ant With Maven all this complicated recipe will be over (thank to god) and will only need to pass maven to build in his local repository and the create a pom based on some of the examples (Maybe this last part is depe

AW: [DISCUSS] Adopting AS3Commons

2016-07-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, well I thought we would have to accept everything as one package. If we are able to have the general permission to ingest the Github repo on a step by step basis, I would like to vote +100 on this. I that case I would volunteer to setup everything and start with that as soon as possibl