Re: Outdated page was: Debian Dictionary

2004-09-28 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Dienstag, 28.09.04 um 05:29 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Q: Could you explain a bit how you do create these pages? This is actually the important question to judge how and wether to include it in the webpages. The program takes the header and footer. In between of it the entries are cre

Re: Outdated page was: Debian Dictionary

2004-09-29 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 29.09.04 um 10:50 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Ok, I probably misformulated the question a bit. Lets try again. Can you make the source code and the source data for your program available somewhere? So one can get an idea of how it works and how it fits into the current infrastru

Re: Outdated page was: Debian Dictionary

2004-09-30 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 29.09.04 um 20:11 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: makdict takes simple text files with entries delimited by "::". and makes files for dictd and html pages for different languages out of those files. Why the special fileformat? Why not using something like gettext? As far as I u

Re: Outdated page was: Debian Dictionary

2004-11-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi Frank! Hmm, ok, you're probably right. It may be worth to substitute the VARIABLES file with a gettext solution, though. That makes it more complicated, I think. I have made some changes to the program: - only one write sub - creation of a provisional index.html (english only, but linkin

Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! I've played around a bit with CSS stylesheets and debian-www was one of my playing grounds. Please visit http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/index11.html and http://www.witch.westfalen.de/support-debian.html and give me some feedback. Both of them use the same stylesheets. On the secon

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Dienstag, 16.11.04 um 00:30 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: I think, if we go for CSS, we really should get rid of the images in the nav bar, replacing them by text. I just tried to make everything like it is currently: I am a debian user only and do not have to decide. But if you have wi

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Dienstag, 16.11.04 um 01:35 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Maybe, I did not get, what was meant with We should really add a "jump to content" link before at the top the page (we can hide it for browers with enabled style-sheets). The (site) content is at top of page, so why should a link

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 17.11.04 um 15:06 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey: Well, that's cool, but now comes the stupid question: While at it, why not just change the whole look ? It is not on me to decide that. I am not a DD - user only, even if since more than eight years (pre 1.1). And why absolutely keep

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-18 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Donnerstag, 18.11.04 um 10:20 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey: My idea would be to go to clean html code first, and then tweak the visual. That is a lot of double work. The tables are only valid as html transitional, not strict. Better: 1. Making a simple css layout 2. removing the tables using

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-19 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 01:00 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This sentence is either false or I misunderstand it... HTML 4 strict has tables, too ;) Yes, it has. I wrote _the_ tables and not tables. You may ask the validator yourself to see, what would be wrong with current html code, if it

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-19 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 03:34 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey: Tables are valid anywhere. Their use for layout is just not recommended, but that applies to transitional and strict. Answered to Frank already: Ther is a difference between just tables and _the_ tables - which are not valid HTML 4.01 s

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-19 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi joey! Am Freitag, 19.11.04 um 22:13 Uhr schrieb Martin Schulze: The list of translations is unacceptable long due to the vertical list in lynx. There is another not fully revised version of the support page, making a normal ist out of it for non-css browsers: http://www.witch.westfalen

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-20 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Samstag, 20.11.04 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: We could provide a language selection form to switch between available translated pages, similar to mirror selection. That is one of my ideas, to. But that needs a script for the form. Not really a problem, but I do not want to make wo

xhtml, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb Mike Hommey: It is wrong. xhtml 1.0 pages SHOULD be served as application/xhtml+xml but can be served as text/html for compatibility purpose. Can you point me to the source, where it says that they may be served without application/xhtml+xml without

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 17:39 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: HTML pages are generated from templates and some scripts, as described in http://www.debian.org/devel/website/ Modifying the generated HTML pages to replace tables by CSS is quite trivial, I fetched the cvs tree and made local changes.

Error question on Bugs, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-21 Thread Jutta Wrage
I got this error when trying to compile the local tree: make[1]: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Target »../../english/Bugs/pseudo-packages.description«, benötigt von »pseudo-packages.en.html«, zu erstellen. Schluss. make[1]: Leaving directory `/bilder/dwww/webwml/english/Bugs' make: [Bugs

Re: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-22 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 21.11.04 um 17:39 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: The main navbar is currently not a list, why did you turn it into ? If you keep it as is, it is certainly possible to have layout unmodified for text browsers. Forgot to answer that. According to accessibility guidelines it is a bad

dwww with css, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-11-23 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi Denis! Am Dienstag, 23.11.04 um 00:03 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: by CSS, all pages will take these changes into account. Of course some other files have also to be modified in the same directory, but it can be done later if we have no time just now. It looks like you already modified HTML p

Re: dwww with css, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-12-01 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 01.12.04 um 14:36 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This gives me a "403 Forbidden" error now. There will be a new one next weekend. greetings Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org

Re: dwww with css, was: Examples Debian WWW with css

2004-12-03 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 01.12.04 um 14:36 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This gives me a "403 Forbidden" error now. Sorry, that was teh Multiviews option, I added to the server. Seems direct directory access is not any longer possible then. But be aware: That diff is old. cu Jutta -- http://www.wi

CSS for packages.debian.org, was: switching packages.debian.org first?

2004-12-04 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 03.12.04 um 00:44 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Just a little addition to the whole XHTML, CSS discussion: If someone would provide me with a sample layout for packages.debian.org and a CSS file I could switch these pages within a day to this new layout. I got a new cvs tree ye

Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! After Denis' revision of the templates it was much easier to apply css to the debian website. The css file itself will go to subdir/english and is not included in the patch attached to this message. English language pages (I'll do two more today) built with patch attached will be found

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 05.12.04 um 21:32 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: The only problems I can see are about debian.css: * I dislike centered text in the footer * Some text overlaps when using large fonts (e.g. in leftcol). Maybe debian.css should first be committed into CVS so that we can all work on fi

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Donnerstag, 09.12.04 um 13:36 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This problem is really ugly for the German front page as I just had to realize (http://higgs.djpig.de/debian-www/index.de.html). I hesitate to apply the patch therefor... Thats's easy to fix: add to the leftcol the same amount of

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 10.12.04 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: Leftcol width (and thus maincol left-margin) should certainly be language dependent. Can we deal with several CSS (and how?), or do we have to provide a whole CSS file per language? We fixed that a bit. But I'll search for a better so

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 10.12.04 um 00:46 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: How are we supposed to load several CSS files? I think, language specific css files can be created by script. But I'll search for another solution (auto width). I am not sure, if that will work, but give me some time to try. greetin

Re: Bug#263084: (no subject)

2004-12-11 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Samstag, 11.12.04 um 02:29 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The use of "they" to refer to a single person is entirely incorrect. That the page where that error occurs is not mentioned, the bug report seems to be more a general statement for using "he" instead of "she". Correct usage of g

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-11 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! I've found a better solution for the menu now (without fix width). The margin for maincol remains, but the leftcol now has flexible width. In addition I made a nested UL out of the left menu. You should consider making the main content flowing around the menu though. http://www.witch.wes

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 12.12.04 um 03:28 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Looks good. I think the padding could use another increase, though, to make the menu entries easier to distinguish. Can you be a bit more specific? Padding between main entries? Padding between subentries? Padding between last sube

Re: Please respect line length limitation in www.debian.org source

2004-12-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 12.12.04 um 20:00 Uhr schrieb Jens Seidel: Please avoid using such long lines. CVS which is used to manage *.wml files is line oriented, similar to diff and patch. It's very hard to It's not only for the translations. It is really hard for me to see, if I prepared correct patches

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Montag, 13.12.04 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html There is on the main page an ugly white ruler with black on white settings. Otherwise it looks good. I meant white on black, sorry

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 15.12.04 um 00:45 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: As there have been no complaints so far, I guess that it is time to go further and now propose navigation/layout/accessibility changes to see if we can improve the current web site. For the accessibility issue I am already asking in th

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 15.12.04 um 02:30 Uhr schrieb Jutta Wrage: But I want you all to look at one third page with page menu provided: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index2.en.html The menu allows quicker navigation to the parts. Blame me. I munged my files. And it is overwritten

Another article about the problems with xhtml

2004-12-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! Maybe not all read Anne van Kesteren's weblog about HTML/XHTML/CSS... There is another interesting article, why not to use XHTML. - As mentioned before, one problem is that XHTML has to be served as xhtml+xml and _not_ as text/html to keep the standards, and browsers would go into Quirks

Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-16 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Donnerstag, 16.12.04 um 15:03 Uhr schrieb Gerfried Fuchs: for instance some sapmle open-source project web pages: http://www.netbeans.org/ Animated GIF as news ticker... come on. That's not really what is helpful, do you think so? It uses javascript, is not valid while using loose DTD,

Bug#215430: chinese pages don't build on non-i386

2005-06-30 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I tried to build the pages on my ppc and got an error, too. Seems nothing is done to fix the bug: wml -q -D CUR_YEAR=2005 -o [EMAIL PROTECTED]:contact.zh- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -o [EMAIL PROTECTED]:cont [EMA

Re: www.debian.org and european parliament to vote about software patents

2005-07-02 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.07.2005 um 02:44 schrieb Luca Brivio: [...] http://noepatents.eu.org/index.php/NO_Software_Patents [...] An increasing number of website are partecipating in a webstrike that will continue until the vote of 6th of June. Perhaps that will be

Re: Broken link to Debian Developer's Reference

2005-07-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.07.2005 um 16:42 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Actually the server should take care of that and I wasn't able to reproduce an error with any browser I have installed. Which browser do you use? The server can take care of it only, if the negoti

Re: [Fwd: Re: Bad web page]

2005-07-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! It is the That IE does not like. Beside that the body tag is not closed I found that changing the line to makes IE not reloading forever any longer. But in the HTML-Specification you will find this note on http:// www.w3.org/TR/REC-

Re: CSS validity(?) on http://www.debian.org

2005-07-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Am 14.07.2005 um 20:18 schrieb Tommi Vainikainen: #leftcol , #navbar , #navbar a , #navbar3 , #navbar3 a Parse Error - -moz-border-radius: 15px; Line: 493 Context : #leftcol , #navbar , #navbar a , #navbar3 , #navbar3 a Parse error - Unrecogni

Re: broken link

2005-07-21 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.07.2005 um 01:39 schrieb David Moreno Garza: Was that related to distrib/cd? I'm kind of interested on that previously reported issue. I hava already posted a solution for the refresh issue: change to with URL= and no space in "content"

Re: Lynx web browser

2005-07-24 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could one using braille or speach please look into? Is it a problem navigating with lynx arounnd the server selection on http://www.debian.org ? Am 24.07.2005 um 20:14 schrieb Jens Seidel: Please select the server list which contains by default

Re: Woody obsolete?

2005-08-04 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.08.2005 um 22:02 schrieb Frans Pop: How about making that "previous stable release"? Hasn't it been that way when woody was released for potato? I'd like that. Many servers still are running woody. greetings Jutta - -- http://www.witc

Re: cdimage website maintenance (was: Bug#322030: Woody CD images deserve to be more visible)

2005-08-11 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 09.08.2005 um 17:06 schrieb Steve McIntyre: Yes, definitely. Maybe for this some mockups and an IRC/email discussion of options would be useful. What about a Wiki page where an outline of the new wanted structure can be created in teamwork?

Re: Navigation menu on all pages

2005-08-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 11.08.2005 um 22:50 schrieb Richard Atterer: Thanks for the offer! However, once the CD-specific navigation bar is gone, it will be more difficult to browse all the different ways of obtaining Debian on CD/DVD. :-/ Using the css makes no l

Bug#324528: www.debian.org: Missing use wml::debian::toc in catalan wml files

2005-08-22 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal After building the pages with HTML strict tidy found some wml-tags inside the pages. I do not know, why these are not on www.debian.org - the bug is not fixed yet and last build is after last change to the files. Here an example, where I have corrected t

Re: help fixing XHTML pages

2005-08-24 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.08.2005 um 22:58 schrieb Denis Barbier: first step is to fix english/template/debian/*.wml files, then test XHTML output on a small directory. But again, XHTML generation will fail if tags are not properly nested, so this is a very invasive c

Bug#324940: www.debian.org: html tag error in catalan wml file

2005-08-24 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch releases/woody/credits.ca.html has wrong end tag for h2 Here is the patch: Index: catalan/releases/woody/credits.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/catalan/releases/woody/credi

HTML Strict and chinese pages

2005-08-24 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! As pointed out in Bug #215430, the chinese pages still do not build on non-i386. Now I have the problem, that I cannot validate the pages with the changes for HTML strict, if they do not build on my system. In addition There is no way to

Re: Layout of the speakers page

2005-08-25 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 25.08.2005 um 14:09 schrieb Mohammed Adnène Trojette: OK. May I commit the following patch for this? No, please! - %body + %body - %attributes + %attributes %body You forgot the there! from speakers.data: # But maybe, t

Bug#325190: www.debian.org: Patches for HTML 4 strict

2005-08-26 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi! The set of patches applied to this mail make 17163 pages validationg with HTML strict. A full build (without chinese, which does not build on PPC) can be seen at http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww2/. CSS patch must be applied befo

Bug#325190: www.debian.org: Patches for HTML 4 strict

2005-08-26 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 26.08.2005 um 20:58 schrieb Frans Pop: Is this included in the patches or just something local you used for checking the patches? Any chance of replacing it with something that will work? I installed the validator locally. The wml line is n

Bug#325190: www.debian.org: Patches for HTML 4 strict

2005-08-26 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 26.08.2005 um 22:08 schrieb Denis Barbier: Can you please enable content negociation? When following links, eg to the social contract, a 404 error is returned. Done. Are these changes really mandatary? I prefer with spaces. No, sorry, Th

Bug#326682: www.debian.org: Patches to make files in MailingLists valid HTML

2005-09-04 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch The included patches make the pages in MailingLists valid HTML. changed files - mklist script - debian-announce.wml In the spanich debian-announce.wml there is a missing line added in addition to the other changes. Jutta -- System Informati

Bug#326736: www.debian.org: Patches to make files in banners valid HTML

2005-09-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch These patches make the index files in the banners directory validate as HTML 4.01. patched files: - index.tags - spanish index.wml please note, that the spanish index is _not_ up to date. The patch corrects only a mistyping in a non up-to-da

Bug#326738: www.debian.org: Patches to make devel index valid HTML

2005-09-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch The attached patches make the index in devel valid html. It is only a minor issue. The polish file has more changes as it seems the patches applied in version 1.24 have been removed in versione 1.25 accidently. greetings Jutta -- System I

Bug#326809: www.debian.org: Mistypings HTML in consultant pages japanese, croatian and russian language

2005-09-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: patch Patches included for mistypings resulting in HTML errors in following pages: - www/consultants/charles_s.hr.html - www/consultants/index.ja.html - www/consultants/index.ru.html Please correct the wml files greetings Jutta -- System Informa

Bug#326682: www.debian.org: Patches to make files in MailingLists valid HTML

2005-09-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.09.2005 um 03:25 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Hmm, I don't quite understand what you mean, they are valid HTML? Validate as HTML4 _strict_. Now they are transitional. greetings Jutta - -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muenst

Bug#327067: www.debian.org: Failure in russian page translation_coordinators.ru.html

2005-09-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: l10n In the russian translation cooordinator page there is the message for the spanish site info messed up. Hint: wouldn't it be better not to have the URL's in the gettect translation? "HTTP:" is not a member of a group specifi ed for any attribut

Y2K Pages on www.debian.org

2005-09-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Should the pages be removed or retained for historical information? Makes no sense to create patches for pages, that will be removed soon. greetings Jutta - -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muensterland.org -BEGIN PGP SIGN

New patches for HTML strict

2005-09-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I have made new patches for 140 files. The patches are grouped and the debian.css _must_ be updated before the other patches are applied. - - The whole set as tgz is downloadable at http:// www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/devel-diff-2005

Re: New patches for HTML strict

2005-09-13 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 13.09.2005 um 03:23 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Hmm tidy complains "line 82 column 21 - Warning: cannot copy name attribute to id" We should probably change that name attribute, too? In this case that will not hurt. I do not know, from where t

Images, was: Re: New patches for HTML strict

2005-09-13 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 13.09.2005 um 03:23 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Hmm tidy complains "line 82 column 21 - Warning: cannot copy name attribute to id" We should probably change that name attribute, too? What I forgot but thought about when changing the wml code f

Name attribute, was: Re: New patches for HTML strict

2005-09-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 13.09.2005 um 03:23 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Hmm tidy complains "line 82 column 21 - Warning: cannot copy name attribute to id" We should probably change that name attribute, too? I forgot: That does not work there. Ids cannot have nombers

Re: New patches for HTML strict

2005-09-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 13.09.2005 um 03:23 schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: devel-buildd-operation-diff.20050908.txt devel-debian-installer-diff.20050908.txt devel-debian-jr-diff.20050908.txt devel-debian-med-diff.20050908.txt devel-debian-nonprofit-diff.20050908.txt devel-

Re: CVS webwml/dutch/MailingLists

2005-09-16 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.09.2005 um 21:53 schrieb Frans Pop: Although probably not broken, using a capital is inconsistent. + Should this not be ? Thanks for reporting the mistyping. They do not hurt, but I corrected them and added to the other paragr

Re: latest debian news is missing from webpage

2005-09-22 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Am 22.09.2005 um 17:36 schrieb Abel Daniel: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2005/38/ It is not yet on all mirrors. Wait a few hours or try Netherlands or France. greetings Jutta - -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de http://witch.muenst

Bug#215430: chinese pages don't build on non-i386

2005-09-27 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 27.09.2005 um 20:48 schrieb Anthony Wong: Can you paste the full screen output of the building of the Chinese page after you have made the change to Make.lang? The full log ist at http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/ make_chinese1.log

Bug#215430: chinese pages don't build on non-i386

2005-09-29 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 28.09.2005 um 04:32 schrieb Anthony Wong: As you mentioned that executing /usr/bin/autogb is okay, could you 1. print the exit code of autogb by typing "echo $?" after running autogb $ /usr/bin/autogb -i big5 -o gb < contact.zh-cn.html.tmp >

Suggestion for the mailto-link

2005-10-01 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! There are two problems with the mailto-link for the webmaster on the pages: 1. If it is set to debian-www mailing list, people do not know, that they are writing to a mailing list 2. As there is not default subject set, we cannot see, from

Re: translatable sentence in dsa-826.data

2005-10-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.10.2005 um 11:58 schrieb Thomas Huriaux: helix-player was distributed only on the i386 and powerpc architecures That surely is invalid - CDATA not alowed there. From what the README in english/security tells, there seems no way

Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I discovered that especially in the french translations HTML-Tags in the original version have been replaced, using the -Tag. Please do not use that any longer! Two reasons - - not valid - - things not to be used () should be replaced by some

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.10.2005 um 14:31 schrieb Frédéric Bothamy: I agree that and should be preferred, but I did not see anywhere in the HTML specifications (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html) that they should not be used, even using "HTML Stri

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.10.2005 um 13:12 schrieb David Martínez Moreno: Hello, Jutta. Do you have any page (sorry if I missed it) with the current analysis? I can take charge of Spanish pages. wget http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/validate- errors-

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Where can we found a patch of all the changes you have applied? I found nothing at http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/ but you are still introducing typography mistakes by fixing with :-( No, sorry, it would take much longer to wa

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, I sent two mails to the authors only accidentily I fail to see why you absolutely need to modify those 12 files, this is a very minor issue compared with all the missing end tags. I think having valid HTML strict (and without further css

Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Seems I have found something working with all browsers for the quotes. I am preparing example pages and will tell you when they are online on my website. Nested quotes will be supported and quotes follow the language of the page. greeting

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.10.2005 um 23:58 schrieb Jutta Wrage: Nested quotes will be supported and quotes follow the language of the page. Here we are. Hope I got everything right: http:// www.witch.westfalen.de/csstest/quotes/ greetings Jutta - -- http

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.10.2005 um 21:50 schrieb Denis Barbier: I thought that XHTML Strict was your target, and HTML 4.01 Strict only a milestone, hence my mail about these optional ending tags. Sorry for the confusion. It never was, because xhtml has several pro

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.10.2005 um 11:36 schrieb Thomas Huriaux: his is only a part of the solution. Sometimes, english will require text while French will require text Other times, english will require text while French will require text

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.10.2005 um 22:07 schrieb Denis Barbier: s there a way to let debian.css include debian-fr.css when language is set to fr? Look at my exmaple pages, we can add that to the main css in the first step. I am not sure, how we can get reasonabl

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I send this to the accessibility mailing list, to to have some opinions for there maybe, as the browsers render cite and q special for them too, maybe. If necessary, I can do an example page. Am 08.10.2005 um 12:37 schrieb Denis Barbier: I had

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 11:09 schrieb Frédéric Bothamy: html[lang="fr"] q:before { content: "\00AB\00A0"; } html[lang="fr"] q:after { content: "\00A0\00BB"; } html[lang="fr"] q q:before { content: "\2039\00A0"; } html[lang="fr"] q q:after { content: "\00A

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 13:32 schrieb Tobias Toedter: Please use »« for German instead of the current scheme. The German quotes should look exactly like the Danish quotes, to be consistent with the rest of the (German) website. You know that «» are

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 13:49 schrieb Denis Barbier: As said in my previous mail, http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/ contains sentences similar to mr Smith presented his new book "Go To Nirvana" I cannot see any usage of -Tag there that is not pointing to a

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 13:30 schrieb Thomas Huriaux: It does not answer my question. Sometimes, English requires quotes, while French requires italic. There is not a semantic tag for all the situations where italic is required in French. To replace bli

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 15:23 schrieb Thomas Huriaux: Ce débat est une sorte de déjà-vu. Je t'ai déjà donné l'exemple du livre Snow Crash (cf. mon premier is invalid html strict, but kinda déjà-vutag..>. in the wml will work fine. That can either cre

Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-08 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.10.2005 um 18:49 schrieb Nicolas Bertolissio: with links, there is no quote at all... Links does not support Q-Tags, it totally ignores them - I have written a bug report. Sometimes it seems, good old lynx is the better choice. There

Re: Invalid HTML-Tags

2005-10-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 09.10.2005 um 13:12 schrieb Thomas Huriaux: My last question is: is it really so important to replace all by something so complicated? If is still valid in XHTML HTML. ;_) The are not that important, I just can leave them out. And if the

Patch for logo-pages

2005-10-10 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! There is still one table more for layout purposes, but the page generates as valid html strict. Pages: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/logos/ Diff: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/logos-20051009.diff css diff: http://www.w

Spanish Quotes was: Re: Quote signs in debian css - solution for all languages in sight

2005-10-10 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.10.2005 um 13:55 schrieb David Martínez Moreno: This is a «single Quote». This is an «outer Quote containing an "inner quote"». Oh, yes, I have forgotten you mail. But I am right confused now. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Quot

vendor-pages bad in lynx

2005-10-10 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! When viewing the venor pages and looking at URL http://www.debian.org/ debian/dwww/distrib/pre-installed, I noticed that there are tables used for layout but _not_ for the tabualar data (there tags like strong are uses instead of and inste

HTML strict - next step reached: less than 1500 pages left

2005-10-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I have not yet applied all changes and some pages need a bit discussion. But over all we are now down to less than 1500 pages, that would not validate with strict DTD. security478 CD202 releases141 events133 Bugs127 doc

Security pages and HTML strict

2005-10-13 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FYI: After talking to Joey, I am going to begin to insert the missing p- tags in the security-tree. Steps go by year. - - update - - inserting the missing tags - - build - - validate - - if okay, commit At this time I do not care any other Errors

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2005-10-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! After applying the patches to the old data files (inserting the missing -tags) there have been 107 errorness pages left. I investigated that a bit more and created patches for 94 files. You may get the diff with wget http://www.witch.westfa

Additional patches for security web pages

2005-10-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Sorry, forgot the subject... After applying the patches to the old data files (inserting the missing -tags) there have been 107 errorness pages left. I investigated that a bit more and created patches for 94 files. You may get the diff with

Problems with rss-feed on mainpage

2005-10-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! When viewing the main inde with lynx there might be an accessibility problem. Two alternate links in the page point to the rss feeds for security advisories. But the title does not tell, that these are not normal links. The links are show

Re: Security pages and HTML strict

2005-10-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 17.10.2005 um 21:17 schrieb Martin Schulze: Since most probably there are systematic "errors", please also check whether parse-advisory.pl needs to be altered as well. Feel free to send me a patch so I can try to run it on some saved advisories

Re: Changing historic documents (Was: Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by bertol: webwml/english/vote/2005 Log-debian-dpl-debate.wml)

2005-10-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 17.10.2005 um 08:09 schrieb Jens Seidel: I mean, there are plenty of mistakes in and mail.wml are often important and in a good quality so I always fixed typos there. I also fixed from time to time ugly mail encodings such as =20= strings

Re: www.debian.org Web Design

2005-10-17 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 17.10.2005 um 19:23 schrieb Bas Zoetekouw: Wow, that looks quite nice indeed. This would be a big improvement over our current pages, IMO. I have made some screenshots where two of those pages can be compared to the original pages directl

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