KMail send function defaulting.

Greetings all, I'm running SID, and lately there have been a number of KDE updates. I find, after last night's updates that KMail's send function doesn't work anymore. The message I'm getting from the pop-up is: 'Failed to get D-Bus interface of mailfilteragent'. so suspect a bug, but can find n

Re: [SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera

On Sunday 03 August 2014 20:18:04 jeremy bentham wrote: > Lisi, why is it cowardly to mount the SD card by itself? It ducks the problems! I take one look at the complications - and take the easy way. ;-) Lisi > I would > certainly have done that, but I don't have the hardware; maybe > I'm ab

Re: mounting a Nikon camera

On 27/07/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Those of us who are cowards just take the memory card out and mount that. > (With the help of a card reader.) > > Have you tried Shotwell? Seems to work for me. With Shotwell, regardless of the camera, it is pretty much "plug-n-nplay", for me, anyway. --

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

Hi Bret, On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: >>> http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> >> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >> roadworthiness testing, human rights legislatio

date/time of photos [was: Re: [SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera]

It was quite awhile ago, but I used gthumb to offload photos from my Nikon. I didn't like it though because the date&time of the photos were all changed to the date&time of the download. I much prefer to keep the date&time when the photo was taken. What experience do others have? On 08/04/2

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On 04/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi Bret, > > On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >

Re: date/time of photos [was: Re: [SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera]

On 04/08/2014, ken wrote: > It was quite awhile ago, but I used gthumb to offload photos from my > Nikon. I didn't like it though because the date&time of the photos were > all changed to the date&time of the download. I much prefer to keep the > date&time when the photo was taken. What experie

Re: Desktop sharing question

On 25/07/2014 11:17 PM, Nelson Green wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, B wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:36:47 -0500 >> Nelson Green wrote: >> >>> Good morning all, >> >> Good afternoon alone, >> >>> PC. I would like to be able to share his desktop to me so that I >>> can see what h

Re: KMail send function defaulting.

Am Sonntag, 3. August 2014, 23:59:15 schrieb Weaver: > Greetings all, > > I'm running SID, and lately there have been a number of KDE updates. > I find, after last night's updates that KMail's send function doesn't work > anymore. > The message I'm getting from the pop-up is: > > 'Failed to get D

use of video w/skype [was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7]

On 08/04/2014 01:36 AM Bret Busby wrote: How many different people do you want to be able to video chat with? >What's your purpose? Figure out what you want to do, and you probably >don't need skype at all. > Relatives and acquaintances (for me), would be good, and, some people of whom I have no

Re: systemd and resume (after sleep)

Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:42:01 +0100 Brian napísal: > On Sat 02 Aug 2014 at 19:02:36 +0200, Slavko wrote: > > > OK, i did small progress :-) > > > > The issue is (seems) not related to systemd, it is caused by > > switching > > What did you do that led you to that conclusion? > > I think

Re: /dev/random5

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > [...] > If you do the /dev/zero against a volume, then no useful data will > remain on that volume ... you need to backup that file system first, > then restore it after you re-create the file system again. Well, that depends on a number o

Re: date/time of photos [was: Re: [SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera]

On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 05:08:38AM -0400, ken wrote: > It was quite awhile ago, but I used gthumb to offload photos from my Nikon. > I didn't like it though because the date&time of the photos were all changed > to the date&time of the download. I much prefer to keep the date&time when > the photo

Re: What is the connection between Microsoft and systemd?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 8/4/14, Michael Kjörling wrote: >> In >> on 3 Aug 2014 08:21 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> >>> (I don't use skype, in spite of my sister's hints, because, as much as >>> possible, I don't want anything Microsoft touches on my stuff. When

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 04/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] >> > > Yeah, okay. > > But, some people with whom I have communicated, do not want others to > see them, when they are talking to them. > > And, to me, Skype was a wonderful facility - video calls are a >

How to install init scripts manually?

Hi, I played around with a LSB init script under Squeeze(init is from sysvinit package version 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1) for learning purposes. My script is following: # cat /etc/init.d/test-script #! /bin/sh ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: test # Required-Start:$all # Required-Stop:

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properly. systemd gives faster boot times, so what! I prefer to boot less often and run with what works until I /have/ to do a reboot, so it wouldn't matter if it t

Re: /dev/random

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > [...] > > Now, the random typing is not necessary. Well, it's not as rosy as I thought, for /dev/random: duty@deb:~/math_work/sf/rollcalld$ time dd bs=128 count=16 if=/dev/random iflag=fullblock of=randump2 16+0 レコード入力

Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > I wonder about Kirby myself.  To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding > a matter of fact via *their* opinion.  If the law says "xa" and the > opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliament to correct the > situation if it is fault

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On Monday 04 August 2014 10:08:59 Bret Busby wrote: > I disagree with you on a number of points, but, I believe, it would be > inappropriate to further discuss these points, in this thread, and, on > this list. Good for you and sorry. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: What is the connection between Microsoft and systemd?

On 08/03/2014 09:51 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Microsoft wrote systemd. Or at least the design spec. *Everyone* knows that much silly! Here's a web page for ya: Microsoft wrote systemd. Or at least the spec. This is authoritative. "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is har

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

It turns out that the reason I never thought of using mkfs to build a working boot sector is that mkfs doesn't do that. Grub, however, does but I am still a bit confused as to how to get it working. I mounted the new drive on /mnt #mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt It's all there. #chroot /mnt / is now the top

Re: Desktop sharing question

On 2014-07-24 17:36, Nelson Green wrote: I have a new, novice Debian user running the XFCE desktop on his PC. I would like to be able to share his desktop to me so that I can see what he is seeing and offer instruction and advice. You already have a Google account and my guess is so does your

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 12:37 GMT+02:00 Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au>: > My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is > broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properly. > > systemd gives faster boot times, so what! I prefer to boot

Re: date/time of photos

On 4 Aug 2014 21:59 +1200, from cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz (Chris Bannister): > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 05:08:38AM -0400, ken wrote: >> It was quite awhile ago, but I used gthumb to offload photos from my Nikon. >> I didn't like it though because the date&time of the photos were all changed >> to t

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On 2014-08-04, Bret Busby wrote: > > I think that this sub-thread has digressed from both the original > post, and, from the nature of the mailing list, too far. > No shit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding >> a matter of fact via *their* opinion. If the law says "xa" and the >> opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliam

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 06:33:35 -0500 "Martin G. McCormick" wrote: >a working boot sector is that mkfs doesn't do that. That's correct. However there is another program called 'makefs' that will create an image file from a user defined directory tree. The 'makefs' program is not the long name ve

Re: What is the connection between Microsoft and systemd?

On 4/08/2014 9:13 PM, Jeff Bauer wrote: > "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify > their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln Now THAT is truly funny! Thanks A. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 08/04/2014 08:03 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: 2014-08-04 12:37 GMT+02:00 Andrew McGlashan >: My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properl

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 4/08/2014 10:03 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > ​I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla > bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it.​ > > ​I wonder what are you all doing with your init scripts which doesn't > work with systemd. So what? If it isn't brok

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

On Dom, 03 Ago 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: The inability of people to deal with digest messages these days is the main reason I think digests should be removed as a mailing list option. +1 to that. I'd also like a filter that rejects mails that have Re: (and variations) in the Subject and no In-

Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config (was New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root)

On Sunday 03 August 2014 15:48:54 Steve Litt wrote: > LOL, Kmail2 breaks your entire email universe: > > http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm Steve, that article basically refers to KDE4 (Nepomuk? Akonadi? Ubuntu 11.10?), which we can agree is a monstrosity, IMHO anyway. Lisi -- T

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is > broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properly. Who should fix sysvinit? The upstream sysvinit developers are DDs and they didn't do it (I'm

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > It turns out that the reason I never thought of using mkfs to > build a working boot sector is that mkfs doesn't do that. Grub, > however, does but I am still a bit confused as to how to get it > working. I mounted the new drive on /mn

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 15:11 GMT+02:00 Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au>: > On 4/08/2014 10:03 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > ​I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla > > bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it.​ > > > > ​I wonder what are y

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 4 Aug 2014 15:35 +0200, from raffaele.more...@gmail.com (Raffaele Morelli): > http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pd "The requested URL /rob/ugly.pd was not found on this server." -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • mich...@kjorling.se OpenPGP B501AC6429EF4514 https://michael.kjorl

Re: Desktop sharing question

On 08/04/2014 07:50 AM, Andreas Weber wrote: I have a new, novice Debian user running the XFCE desktop on his PC. I would like to be able to share his desktop to me so that I can see what he is seeing and offer instruction and advice. I have always been a huge fan of Teamviewer[1], I use it for

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 4/08/2014 11:35 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2014-08-04 15:11 GMT+02:00 Andrew McGlashan > >: > > On 4/08/2014 10:03 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > ​I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla > > bla... and di

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: > >> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is >> broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work properly. > > Who should fix sysvinit? The upstream sysvini

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 15:41 GMT+02:00 Michael Kjörling : > On 4 Aug 2014 15:35 +0200, from raffaele.more...@gmail.com (Raffaele > Morelli): > > http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pd > > "The requested URL /rob/ugly.pd was not found on this server." > ​http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pdf​

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

On 20140803_1328-0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I used a variety of mailers back then and I don't recall which ones > > handled digests nicely and which did not. > > I just tested mutt and digests and mutt handles message digests quite > well. And furthermore because the Debian l

NFS and iptables during bootup

Hi, I made a very simple bash script which loads the iptables configuration from /etc/firewall.conf and /etc/firewall6.conf files: # cat /etc/init.d/firewall #!/bin/bash iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf ip6tables-restore < /etc/firewall6.conf # Script is stored in /etc/init.d/ directory, b

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

Tom H writes: > Are you mounting "/mnt/{dev,proc,sys}" before chrooting? No. I did try the mount command after chrooting which successfully ran, but didn't fix the missing /dev. I bet this is the crux of the problem, however. Mount just mounts everything in /etc/fstab. I don't remember if dev is t

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

Hi, by "reloaded the machine" I meant that I executed the "reboot" command. I did try with telinit, but at least on Squeeze this is just a symlink to init: # file /sbin/telinit /sbin/telinit: symbolic link to `init' # regards, Martin On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: > On 04/08/14 06:30 AM, Martin

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:06 +1000 Andrew McGlashan napísal: > On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan > > wrote: > > > >> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is > >> broken or rather the packages [whatever the

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

On 04/08/14 11:04 AM, Martin T wrote: On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: On 04/08/14 06:30 AM, Martin T wrote: Hi, I played around with a LSB init script under Squeeze(init is from sysvinit package version 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1) for learning purposes. My script is following: # cat /etc/init.d/test

PolicyKit not applying with systemd on Debian Jessie

​I am trying to allow a non-root user to mount disks on a Debian Jessie (minbase debootstrap) system. I am using systemd (installed systemd and systemd-sysv) packages and trying to achieve disk automounting via policykit and udisks. I installed: udisks, udisks-glue and policykit-1. I created a

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

Hi. On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 05:52:43PM +0300, Martin T wrote: > Hi, > > I made a very simple bash script which loads the iptables > configuration from /etc/firewall.conf and /etc/firewall6.conf files: > > # cat /etc/init.d/firewall > #!/bin/bash > > iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf > ip6t

Re: date/time of photos [was: Re: [SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera]

2014-08-04 11:08 keltezéssel, ken írta: > It was quite awhile ago, but I used gthumb to offload photos from my > Nikon. I didn't like it though because the date&time of the photos were > all changed to the date&time of the download. I much prefer to keep the > date&time when the photo was taken.

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

The Wanderer wrote: > Maybe it's got something to do with the way I install Debian? I don't > quite follow the normal installer defaults 100%; I do partitioning > manually, and I disable all tasks except for the base system, then > install everything I need (including X) separately afterwards. I t

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

- Original Message - > From: "Mark Carroll" > > Curt writes: > > > On 2014-07-25, Brian wrote: > >> > >> With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages to fly > >> past at a bewildering speed and then for the screen to be cleared by > >> agetty. Nobody particularily

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

Martin G. McCormick a écrit : > Tom H writes: >> Are you mounting "/mnt/{dev,proc,sys}" before chrooting? > > No. I did try the mount command after chrooting which successfully ran, but > didn't fix the missing /dev. I bet this is the crux of the > problem, however. Mount just mounts everything in

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is >>> broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't wo

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: > My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is broken or rather

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Martin T wrote: > > I made a very simple bash script which loads the iptables > configuration from /etc/firewall.conf and /etc/firewall6.conf files: > > # cat /etc/init.d/firewall > #!/bin/bash > > iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf > ip6tables-restore < /etc/fi

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:06 +1000 Andrew McGlashan > napísal: >> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: systemd gives faster boot times, so what! I prefer to boot less o

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken. I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the previous security model doesn't handle every possible access case. I always hate it when people say such vague statements such as "modern" or "is broken" with

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote: > Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : >> Going back to "fix sysinit instead" (which is what I was replying to), >> did anyone add cgroup support to sysvinit so someone could tell >> Lennart "f-u, sysvinit can kill double-forked children"? >> > > For me tha

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Tom H writes: >> >> Are you mounting "/mnt/{dev,proc,sys}" before chrooting? > > No. I did try the mount command after chrooting which successfully ran, but > didn't fix the missing /dev. I bet this is the crux of the > problem, however

Re: /dev/random5

On 08/03/2014 11:53 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 4/08/2014 5:43 AM, David Christensen wrote: If I know that I will be setting up a GPT partition table with one primary partition for LUKS that uses all available LBA's aligned to 1 MB boundaries, zeroing (/dev/urandom?) the first and last megaby

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

Am 04.08.2014 20:14, schrieb Rob Owens: > You could try installing bootlogd. I just tried it on my jessie system > (running systemd) and it didn't log anything. But I recall using it on > Wheezy and I think it logged all the services starting/stopping/failing. Don't use bootlogd. That's a hack

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > What takes most time when booting a server is what the server does > before booting the OS (before grub in case of linux). Optimising what > comes after is non-sense. And VMs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

On Du, 03 aug 14, 13:28:06, Bob Proulx wrote: > > P.S. I still think digests are less desirable because I don't see a > way to view the discussion in a threaded view. Threaded views have > been around for so long that I couldn't live without them. Of course > Gmail and Outlook users don't have t

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

On Lu, 04 aug 14, 11:20:38, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Or it is also possible that the hardware differences is the source of > the difference. Your graphics display hardware may decide to use the > 25 line terminal while mine chooses a 48 line terminal. I'm guessing it's due to fglrx, which is blackl

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

On Lu, 04 aug 14, 08:52:17, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I've spent some time recently, trying to use the Gmail browser > interface. I would never switch to it from Mutt, excepting only if > Microsoft does a corporate take-over of Debian (They are both > corporations under the Law, and under the Law,

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> >> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken. > > I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the > previous security model doesn't handle every possible access case. > > I always hate it when peopl

Re: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir

B writes: > On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:10:10 -0600 > Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > Do you have more information on encfs being declared a security >> hazard? Your post is the first I've heard of it. > > http://defuse.ca/audits/encfs.htm > (You'll note that dangerous attack vectors are quite low). Ah

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote: >> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : >>> >>> Suppose that you have a 16-node cluster, some patches were applied to >>> the systems overnight, a mistake was made, and you have to correct >>> this m

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

On Monday 04 August 2014 21:58:36 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I'm not very familiar with Gmail's interface Lucky you. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debi

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Tue 05 Aug 2014 at 00:33:43 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 11:35 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > debian packages are not on-demand services, you should apply to "fix" > > whatever packages you are referring to or give up crying to mailing list > > feets (still wonder what yo

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 17:17:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: > Didn't all DEs use consolekit and policykit? IIRC wasn't the CTTE bug > filed because of a debian-devel@ thread about Gnome depending on > systemd (because of logind and/or libpam-systemd)? Consolekit did indeed reign supreme but had been on it

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 17:17:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> Didn't all DEs use consolekit and policykit? IIRC wasn't the CTTE bug >> filed because of a debian-devel@ thread about Gnome depending on >> systemd (because of logind and/or libpam-systemd)? > >

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200 Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2014-08-04 12:37 GMT+02:00 Andrew McGlashan < > andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au>: > > > My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is > > broken or rather the packages [whatever they are] that don't work > >

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 18:04:31 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 17:17:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > > >> Didn't all DEs use consolekit and policykit? IIRC wasn't the CTTE bug > >> filed because of a debian-devel@ thread about Gnome dependin

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:34:22 -0400 Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: > > On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: > > Sure it counts, but if you have 1000s of servers, you likely have > > many other considerations and you'll be pooling [at least] those > > serv

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 18:28:44 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > ​I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla > > bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it.​ > > > > ​I wonder what are you all doin

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

Well, now maybe I can find a place to sort of drag this thread back almost on topic for the list. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me,

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 18:28:44 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> [...] >> 2) Gratuitous interdependency. Part of the Unix Philosophy is that >>programs should "do one thing and do it well." The user assembles a >>functionality from many such small

Device mac addy keeps changing

I have bright house DSL and the hook up is as follows. The incoming cable is hooked to their box and then my router is hooked up to that. From the router I have a hard wired desk top and a hard wire to my lap top (for when wifi is down). When I set up wireless connection with network tools I

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote: >>> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : Suppose that you have a 16-node cluster, some patches were applied to the systems overnight,

Help needed with wireless on a Thinkpad X40

Hi. I recently installed Debian stable (wheezy 7.6) on a Thinkpad X40, with the following network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] The installer complained about the required non-free firmware being unavailable. First thing I did was install it, `firmware-ipw2x00`. I i

Re: Device mac addy keeps changing

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:55:36 -0400 Maureen L Thomas wrote: >Everytime wifi goes down I go back into the network tools and a >different dma is there. I change it back to my router and it works >until I shut down. When I reboot it, it is back to their dma. I'm not sure what you mean here...

Re: /dev/random

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] >> >> Now, the random typing is not necessary. > > Well, it's not as rosy as I thought, for /dev/random: > > > duty@deb:~/math_work/sf/rollcalld$ time dd bs=128 c

Re: Help needed with wireless on a Thinkpad X40

On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:47:45 -0400 Alef Farah wrote: >Thinkpad does a single blink every >~5s. Fn+F5, which should toggle the wi-fi, seems to have no effect >whatsoever. Try: tail -f -n 150 /var/log/syslog And then press the Fn+F5 keys... what shows in the log? --Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Help needed with wireless on a Thinkpad X40

> Try: > tail -f -n 150 /var/log/syslog > > And then press the Fn+F5 keys... what shows in the log? Nothing is logged. Though Fn + other F keys (such as lowering screen brightness, which works) also don't trigger any log entry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Help needed with wireless on a Thinkpad X40

On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 22:51:49 -0300 Alef Farah wrote: >Nothing is logged. Though Fn + other F keys (such as lowering screen brightness, >which works) also don't trigger any log entry. It's possible the key combo is being caught by the BIOS ... However, even in that case, if the wireless interface

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/04/2014 04:44 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 04 aug 14, 11:20:38, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> Or it is also possible that the hardware differences is the source >> of the difference. Your graphics display hardware may decide to >> use the 25

Wireless card unavailable in Debian, but works in Ubuntu

Hello guys, I have a liittle problem with a wireless card of a cheap HP laptop. It works perfectly well out of the box in Ubuntu 14.04, but not in Debian Jessie. Here is what a managed to find. In Ubuntu it looks like that: root@ubuntu:~# dmesg | grep 02:00.0 [0.986323] pci :02:00.0: [

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 11:17:02PM CEST, Tom H said: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> > >> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken. > > > > I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the > > previous security model doesn'

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 0:28 GMT+02:00 Steve Litt : > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > ​I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla > > bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it.​ > > > > ​I wonder what are you all doing with your init s