Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-07 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 07:30:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 08:58:02PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > > > Is Debian XTERN still available? > > I nearly mis-read that as "xterm". What is "XTERN"? > The subject line has

Re: I meant Xterm

2025-09-07 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 02:57:07AM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > >> In a previous message, John Conover implied: > > J> Does Debian come with Xterm? > >If it doesn't, building from source is easy. It sure does: likewise named package (i.e. "xterm"

Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-06 Thread Marco Moock
On 06.09.2025 06:20 Uhr John Conover wrote: > Is Debian XTERN still available? Debian ships xterm in its repository. I do not know about a plan to remove it. -- kind regards Marco Send spam to 1757132401mu...@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

Re: I meant Xterm

2025-09-05 Thread Karl Vogel
>> In a previous message, John Conover implied: J> Does Debian come with Xterm? If it doesn't, building from source is easy. curl https://invisible-island.net/archives/xterm/xterm-401.tgz curl https://invisible-island.net/archives/xterm/xterm-401.tgz.asc gpg --ve

Re: I meant Xterm

2025-09-05 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 10:45:44PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > Sorry about that. I meant Xterm > > John > And I would like to get an additional Sorry for not replying in thread. (for starting a new mail thread) It is the "You all known what my previous email wa

Re: Debian XTERM

2025-09-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 08:58:02PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Is Debian XTERN still available? I nearly mis-read that as "xterm". What is "XTERN"? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

I meant Xterm

2025-09-05 Thread John Conover
Sorry about that. I meant Xterm John -- John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/

Debian XTERM

2025-09-05 Thread John Conover
Is Debian XTERN still available? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-13 Thread Michael Paoli
On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 7:15 AM Mike McClain wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 11:28:08PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Sorry I wasn't clear, I'll try again. > I've defined to9 () { echo "$1" > /dev/tty9 } to be used from an xterm. > I'd like to

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-12 Thread Mike McClain
On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 04:23:36PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > So this was a XY problem. If you say so but I don't see it that way. > Do not try to guess which terminal is running ???only bash???, have the I wasn't trying to guess and you gave me the answer, Thank You. >

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-08-11): > I still think that having both /dev/tty9 and "this one xterm" both > connected to the same tmux/screen session is going to be the best > long-term solution to *whatever* the actual workflow issue is. That might work depending on the use case, o

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 10:31:38 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Recipe: > > 1) Install screen. > 2) On /dev/tty9, run "screen -S shared" to create a named session. > 3) In X, open an xterm (ideally with the same dimensions as the VT). >

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
notifications demon (e.g. xfce4-notifyd) > - write to a file you control, and run tail -f filename in > your selected xterm I still think that having both /dev/tty9 and "this one xterm" both connected to the same tmux/screen session is going to be the best long-term solution to

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
> ps ax | grep [b]ash | grep -o 'pts...' … will not tell us what terminal is running *only* bash. -- Nicolas George

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread John Hasler
Mike McClain writes: > If I can learn how to determine which /dev/pts/? is running only bash > and not mc or something else then I can write toX() to just work. ps ax | grep [b]ash | grep -o 'pts...' -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Dan Ritter
it appear on the other terminal? > > Sorry I wasn't clear, I'll try again. > I've defined to9 () { echo "$1" > /dev/tty9 } to be used from an xterm. > I'd like to have a similar function toX() to be used on a virtual > terminal that would print some

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Mike McClain (HE12025-08-11): > I've defined to9 () { echo "$1" > /dev/tty9 } to be used from an xterm. > I'd like to have a similar function toX() to be used on a virtual > terminal that would print some text on the xterm running only bash > but that xterm vari

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-11 Thread Mike McClain
wasn't clear, I'll try again. I've defined to9 () { echo "$1" > /dev/tty9 } to be used from an xterm. I'd like to have a similar function toX() to be used on a virtual terminal that would print some text on the xterm running only bash but that xterm varies which /dev

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Aug 2025 at 21:58:32 (-0500), Mike McClain wrote: > Most of my Linux use is on the commandline. > When I launch X I always start an xterm, one running mc and firefox. > >From X I have a tiny script 'to9' that copies my entry to /dev/tty9. > Going the other way fr

Re: recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 21:58:32 -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > Most of my Linux use is on the commandline. > When I launch X I always start an xterm, one running mc and firefox. > >From X I have a tiny script 'to9' that copies my entry to /dev/tty9. > Going the other way fr

recognizing an xterm running only bash from the CLI

2025-08-10 Thread Mike McClain
Most of my Linux use is on the commandline. When I launch X I always start an xterm, one running mc and firefox. >From X I have a tiny script 'to9' that copies my entry to /dev/tty9. Going the other way from the CLI to X I have to go to X and see which /dev/pts/* is just running bash

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........

2024-06-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
pboard) Tells xterm whether to use the PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD for SELECT tokens in the selection mechanism. The set-select action can change this at runtime, allowing the user to work with programs that handle only one of these mechanisms. The default is “false”, which te

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread fxkl47BF
someone else knows, or maybe you can find some modern-day documentation > about it on the Internet. > >> This works on a Dell Vostro laptop. >> >> Highlight the text in xterm with the left of the touchpad. >> Cursor in highlighted text, press bottom middle of touchpad.

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread Max Nikulin
on middle click considering it insecure. Perhaps there are still wayland implementations supporting only clipboard. In xterm you may configure shortcuts for both primary selection and clipboard copy and paste. Search for copy-selection and insert-selection in xterm(1). It was discussed in the

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread Aleix Piulachs
Excúseme i don’t know the xterm behavior.. El El jue, 13 jun 2024 a las 13:28, Greg Wooledge escribió: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 03:42:27PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > For completeness. Had tried right and left at same time on touchpad of > > laptop. As it worked years ago. &g

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Thursday, 13 June 2024 07:27:47 -04 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 03:42:27PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > For completeness. Had tried right and left at same time on touchpad > > of laptop. As it worked years ago. > > Pressing left+right buttons simultaneously was indeed one of the

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
a Dell Vostro laptop. > > Highlight the text in xterm with the left of the touchpad. > Cursor in highlighted text, press bottom middle of touchpad. > > This alters the block highlight. By pressing the middle of the > bottom of the touchpad: highlights only the lines in xterm. >

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-13 Thread Keith Bainbridge
at 12:16:00PM +1000, Charlie wrote: >> > Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm >> > by Ctrl + C or Shift + Ctrl + C So don't know how to copy from >> > xterm >> >> xterm is a terminal emulator. Pressing Ctrl-C in a termina

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

2024-06-12 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:56:34 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:16:00PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm > > by Ctrl + C or Shift + Ctrl + C So don't know how to copy from > > xter

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........

2024-06-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 12:16:00 +1000 Charlie wrote: > I[s] there is a > way to do it at all? Yes. Use Mouse-1 (typically the left-hand mouse button) to swipe the text you want to copy from the xterm. Go to the recipient program, and use Mouse-2 (typically the middle button on the mouse) to

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........

2024-06-12 Thread Aleix Piulachs
I believe you can to change the options of xterm editor and set up others.. El El jue, 13 jun 2024 a las 4:56, Greg Wooledge escribió: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:16:00PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm by > > Ct

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........

2024-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:16:00PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm by > Ctrl + C or Shift + Ctrl + C So don't know how to copy from xterm xterm is a terminal emulator. Pressing Ctrl-C in a terminal emulator simply passes a

Copy from xterm to text editor........

2024-06-12 Thread Charlie
Using Debian bookworm updated and upgraded. Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm by Ctrl + C or Shift + Ctrl + C So don't know how to copy from xterm Unable to paste from xterm into a text editor using Ctrl + V or Shift + Ctrl + V After a few year

Re: xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection [was: Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-07 Thread debian-user
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I have not said it is more “standard for terminals”, I have that it > > is more “standard” fullstop. It is more standard by the virtue of > > having worked for decades, C-Ins S-Ins S-Del existed way before the > > C-C C-V C-X tryptich, and still working today in most cont

C-Ins vs. C-c [was: xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection] Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-07 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 01:20:19PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Max Nikulin (12024-02-07): > > It may be a convention for applications other than terminals, however I am > > unsure what "standard" means for terminals. > > I have not said it is more “standard for terminals”, I have that it is > m

Re: xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection [was: Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-07 Thread Max Nikulin
minals use [Ctrl+Shift+c] and [Ctrl+Shift+v] instead of conventional [Ctrl+c] and [Ctrl+v]. That is why I am against idea of adding [Ctrl+Insert] to xterm bindings. In Emacs C- is bound to `kill-ring-save'. Works for me. The author of XTerm is quite reactive if you can explain the issue cl

Re: xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection [was: Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have not said it is more “standard for terminals”, I have that it is > more “standard” fullstop. It is more standard by the virtue of having > worked for decades, C-Ins S-Ins S-Del existed way before the C-C C-V C-X > tryptich, and still working today in most contexts. Indeed, IIUC these key b

Re: xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection [was: Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-07 Thread Nicolas George
of having worked for decades, C-Ins S-Ins S-Del existed way before the C-C C-V C-X tryptich, and still working today in most contexts. > Thanks, it seems, it works in bookworm. Several years ago xterm did not > support ownership of independent CLIPBOARD and PRIMARY simultaneously. It >

xterm PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selection [was: Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim]

2024-02-06 Thread Max Nikulin
nput --clipboard'", PRIMARY)\n\ copy-selection(CLIPBOARD) … is simpler. Thanks, it seems, it works in bookworm. Several years ago xterm did not support ownership of independent CLIPBOARD and PRIMARY simultaneously. It was a workaround for the following scenario: -

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2024-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Sun 31 Dec 2023 at 00:43:40 (-0600), Mike McClain wrote: > I > suspect logging into a system where you have no home for your primary > user might get interesting. That problem is simple to resolve. I have encrypted /home partitions on all my systems, but the root filesystem has a /home/primaryU

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-30 Thread Mike McClain
I shouldn't be surprised if xterm-256color is just enough different from xterm and lxterminal that that is why you don't see a problem with the '"...": ...' syntax. If you have xterm-256color you likely have xterm too. Have you tried it? Thanks for showing me different way

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/12/2023 09:14, Mike McClain wrote: Since some of these use a spinoff of xterm [ -n $DISPLAY ] is a little more generic than [ $TERM == xterm ], RaspberryPI has chosen lxterminal as their default which would would fail that test but still runs bash. I would expect that the reason of

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 08:14:37PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > As it turns out every line in /mc/bin/xterm_bindings that > was not a comment was problematic.From man readline or info readline > I saw this: bind '"\C-x\C-r": re-read-init-file' and that is the syntax > I used in xterm_bindings,

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-29 Thread Mike McClain
ered what /mc/implied, my name is McClain so /mc is where my stuff goes to separate it from system stuff making it easier to move my stuff from distribution to distribution. I started with DosLinux back around 1997-8 and have used redhat, slakware, solaris, freebsd and settled on Debian early t

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
so detrimental side effect. > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20110218064727.GA6305@playground > Re: xterm question [SOLVED] Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:47:27 -0800 That message is over 12 years old. It's quite likely some changes have been made since then. I'd also be cur

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-27 Thread Max Nikulin
indings; I do not see anything that may cause the issue with single quote in the following message. I am curious what was the goal of the particular binding that had so detrimental side effect. https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20110218064727.GA6305@playground Re: xterm question [SOLVED] Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:47:27 -0800

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-26 Thread Mike McClain
You guys were rigt all along, I just couldn't see it. Greg's suggestion to try dash showed me the error of my ways. I moved .inputrc to no.inputrc, commented out the line in bash.environment that pulled in xterm_bindings, killed and restarted X and sure enough I had '"' in an lxterminal window. I m

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/12/2023 12:31, Mike McClain wrote: In lxterminal control v displays "'" though lxterminal doesn't. Do xterm and lxterminal behave in a similar way? Is there something related to xterm *VT100*translations in the output of xrdb -query - I am unsure if there a

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:35:37PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd For the record, $SHELL does not tell you what shell you're currently in. It tells you which login shell your account uses, or which shell you'd *like* to

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Mike McClain
root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty1 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty6 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > I've examined /etc/inputrc, .inputrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, ~/.bashrc, > /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/*, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile, OK, you've examined them... and... what did you *see* in them? When did this problem start to happen, a

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-24 Thread Mike McClain
This is reported by "xev" in response to the "'" key: KeyPress event, serial 48, synthetic NO, window 0x1e1, root 0x3af, subw 0x0, time 1860575, (170,-87), root:(1005,201), state 0x10, keycode 48 (keysym 0x27, apostrophe), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (27) "'" X

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 09:06:47PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 09:01:09AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 24/12/2023 07:32, Mike McClain wrote: > > > when I > > > type a single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal nothing shows.

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 09:01:09AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 24/12/2023 07:32, Mike McClain wrote: > > when I > > type a single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal nothing shows. > > May it happen that you have dead keys in your keyboard configuration

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-23 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/12/2023 07:32, Mike McClain wrote: when I type a single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal nothing shows. May it happen that you have dead keys in your keyboard configuration to type characters with accents? I have never used this feature, so my guess may be wrong.

Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 06:32:35PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > I seldom use the command line while on the desk top since I keep 10 > VTs open for day to day tasks so only recently noticed that when I > type a single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal nothing shows

single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal

2023-12-23 Thread Mike McClain
I seldom use the command line while on the desk top since I keep 10 VTs open for day to day tasks so only recently noticed that when I type a single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal nothing shows. If I open a file for editing with jed, my favorite editor, I can type a s

Re: Unit prefixes [was: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm]

2023-10-15 Thread gene heskett
On 10/15/23 04:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 03:34:52AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] I can beat that Tomas. At one point in the early 90's we had a PDP-11 to run a 7 meter C band dish, The VT 220 died and DEC wanted nearly 2G for a VT-550 This one keeps tripping me

Unit prefixes [was: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm]

2023-10-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 03:34:52AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > I can beat that Tomas. At one point in the early 90's we had a PDP-11 to run > a 7 meter C band dish, The VT 220 died and DEC wanted nearly 2G for a VT-550 This one keeps tripping me up: the "G" in your "2G" means "grand", yes

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-15 Thread gene heskett
On 10/15/23 02:06, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 09:52:16AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] P.S. I believed that most confusing (while still useful) feature of terminals is [Ctrl+s]. It takes some time to realize that it has been hit by mistake, so [Ctrl+q] is required to res

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-14 Thread tomas
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 09:52:16AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] > P.S. I believed that most confusing (while still useful) feature of > terminals is [Ctrl+s]. It takes some time to realize that it has been hit by > mistake, so [Ctrl+q] is required to resume output. Old age gotta have some adv

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/10/2023 02:10, Van Snyder wrote: The culprit is tcsh, not XTerm. With bash, Alt-Shift-P produces a colon. In tcsh the default bindings are almost the same as in bash: https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/tcsh/tcsh.1.en.html#history-search-backward history-search-backward (M-p, M-P

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-14 Thread Van Snyder
The culprit is tcsh, not XTerm. With bash, Alt-Shift-P produces a colon. I added this to my .XDefaults xterm*altIsNotMeta: truexterm*altSendsEscape: true so that Alt-Shift-P becomes ESC-P. The problem now does not occur in tcsh. Thanks to the correspondents on the list. On Sat, 2023-10-14 at 15:49

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 08:38:22AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:07:57AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 01:06:20PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > > I haven't figured out how to unlock the XTerm after accidentally givi

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 07:07:57AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 01:06:20PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I haven't figured out how to unlock the XTerm after accidentally giving > > it Alt-Shift-P. I'm not seeing whatever it is you're se

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 01:06:20PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, 2023-10-13 at 12:38 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I have set up Alt-Shift-P as a macro in my editor (nedit) to run > > pdflatex. > > If I accidentally do it when XTerm has keyboard focus, it locks up > &g

Re: Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-13 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2023-10-13 at 12:38 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I have set up Alt-Shift-P as a macro in my editor (nedit) to run > pdflatex. > If I accidentally do it when XTerm has keyboard focus, it locks up > and the only thing I can do is kill it and restart. > How can I unlock XTerm a

Alt-Shift-P freezes XTerm

2023-10-13 Thread Van Snyder
I have set up Alt-Shift-P as a macro in my editor (nedit) to run pdflatex. If I accidentally do it when XTerm has keyboard focus, it locks up and the only thing I can do is kill it and restart. How can I unlock XTerm after doing this? There are no Alt-Shift sequences listed at https

Re: xterm font and other options

2023-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/08/2023 16:16, Karl Vogel wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:38:34PM -0400, Max Nikulin wrote: Xterm configuration options may be put to ~/.Xresources, e.g. xterm*VT100.faceName: ... I am curious if there are actual advantages of usage a wrapper script instead of xresources

Re: xterm font and other options

2023-08-21 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:38:34PM -0400, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/08/2023 14:55, Karl Vogel wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > ... > > # -fa 'xft:...' font size and weight > ... > > ( $XTERM $geo $topts -fa "$FONT" -title "Remote

xterm font and other options

2023-08-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/08/2023 14:55, Karl Vogel wrote: #!/bin/sh ... # -fa 'xft:...' font size and weight ... ( $XTERM $geo $topts -fa "$FONT" -title "Remote" ) & Xterm configuration options may be put to ~/.Xresources, e.g. xterm*VT100.faceName: ...

Re: how enable copy paste & start xterm or uxterm

2022-09-13 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, jindam, vani wrote: i installed debian sid on userland app. i have 2 terminals. xterm & uxterm. i have installed openbox, jre, mc & palemoon. i have 2 issues & both of are interrelated: (1) when i start my vnc session, it starts xterm terminal automatically

how enable copy paste & start xterm or uxterm

2022-09-11 Thread jindam, vani
i installed debian sid on userland app. i have 2 terminals. xterm & uxterm. i have installed openbox, jre, mc & palemoon. i have 2 issues & both of are interrelated: (1) when i start my vnc session, it starts xterm terminal automatically. which file should i edit to start uxterm?

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:57:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. > > *10 > > I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard All three of them, actually ;-) Cheers -- t

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 13:06:40 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:20:05 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > Now, I really need a terminal for alt-ctl-F3 that does support the > > mouse. > > charles@hawk:~$ apt show gpm [ … ] > Description: General Purpose Mouse interface >

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. *10 I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fan

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, June 13, 2022 11:35:29 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > Let's get some actual numbers in here. From wikipedia: > > IBM PC with proprietary BIOS introduced: 1981 > Linus Torvalds begins writing Linux: 1991 Efforts started toward EFI (predecessor in some sense of UEFI) -- see below: 199

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: > > new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux > > was first written... > If that is what they taught you in history, Michael, sue the the school.   *sigh* Let's ge

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when li

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux was first written... So having tw

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-12 18:34, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2022 12:54:19 pm mick crane wrote: As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. Were I run

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:20:05 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > Now, I really need a terminal for alt-ctl-F3 that does support the > mouse. charles@hawk:~$ apt show gpm Package: gpm Version: 1.20.7-8 Priority: optional Section: misc Maintainer: Axel Beckert Installed-Size: 553 kB Pre-Depends: init-sy

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 17:00:42 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 12:20:05PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > > What I do

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 12 June 2022 12:54:19 pm mick crane wrote: > As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk > thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things > working one at a time afterwards. Were I running into these kinds of hassles, that would

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 12:20:05PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > What I do have is konsole and termit, no xterm. > > For me, konsole does fine -- I can C&am

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On 6/12/22 12:41, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system setup

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 11:42:06AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > If blkid is missing, so is lsblk, unicorn:~$ type blkid blkid is /sbin/blkid unicorn:~$ type lsblk lsblk is /bin/lsblk Betcha it's a PATH thing.

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-12 17:20, gene heskett wrote: I so want you to succeed and I can't be a lot of help. As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. mick -- Key ID

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 12:20:05 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > What I do have is konsole and termit, no xterm. > > For me, konsole does fine -- I can C&P

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root > pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system setup cuz everything > but synapti

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 03:53:49 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Thomas Schmitt composed on 2022-06-12 09:21 (UTC+0200): > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have konsole > >> and termit, and termit will work f

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: What I do have is konsole and termit, no xterm. For me, konsole does fine -- I can C&P from it with the mouse (and, presumably, keystrokes). Well, I gave up and did another 29t install,

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > What I do have is konsole and termit, no xterm. For me, konsole does fine -- I can C&P from it with the mouse (and, presumably, keystrokes).

OT: why (was: Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails)

2022-06-12 Thread rhkramer
I was going to restrain myself and not send this, but I succumbed ... sorry for the noise. On Sunday, June 12, 2022 03:53:49 AM Felix Miata wrote: > Why this tangent to Gene's foibles? I shouldn't do this, but ... (And no criticism intended of anyone, specifically Thomas Schmitt.) s/song/threa

Re: xterm. Was: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, it comes to me that Debian has an official screenshot of one of my xterms. So here is an xterm with -bg wheat -fg black: https://screenshots.debian.net/shrine/screenshot/15899/simage/large-de6e648f9ed3746646ab2120ba5da1f0.png It is a bit higher than usual, to take all lines which i

Re: xterm. Was: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > xterm cannot be found by synaptic or apt either. The package xterm exists and has versions in all current releases of Debian. See: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xterm Try sudo apt-get install xterm or sudo apt install xterm > So I'll repeat, w

Re: xterm. Valid /etc/apt/sources.list [Was 26th pass]

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:08:49AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 07:53:21AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > gene@coyote:~$ bash: xterm: command not found > > > > xterm cannot be found by synaptic or apt either. > > unicorn:~$ apt policy xterm &g

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 07:53:21AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~$ bash: xterm: command not found > > xterm cannot be found by synaptic or apt either. unicorn:~$ apt policy xterm xterm: Installed: 366-1+deb11u1 Candidate: 366-1+deb11u1 Version table: *** 366-1+de

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 07:53:21AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Sunday, 12 June 2022 03:21:50 EDT Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have > > > konsole and ter

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