On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote:
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled
EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does.
new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when
linux was first written...
If that is what they taught you in history, Michael, sue the the
school. Bios has been around since the first IBM PC, or before. UEFI
was microsofts failed attempt to lock people into dos/windows about 20
years ago when unix/linux was beginning to eat their lunch.
So having twigged that I'd initially have the installer do its thing.
Yes, most of his problems seem to stem from trying to do things his
own way, often with a rationale that's simply incorrect. When someone
tries to figure out what's wrong they're starting in a hole--first
needing to reverse engineer the unrevealed set of actions that led to
the mess in the first place.
You forget that I have been fixing things with battery's or line cord's
since long before you were born.
I was fixing radio's for cig money a year after end of WW-II. WOI-TV out
of Iowa State college, the first
tv station in Iowa was still 2 years in the future.
Microsofts attempt to impose UEFI on the industry is just one of the
reasons there are no operating
windows machines out of the 6 that run 24/7 here.
4 of them carve wood or metal, running code I wrote, the 5th runs a 3d
printer to make things I
design in OpenSCAD on this machine, and this one.
And they all boot linux from the bios. The bios may have UEFI, but if it
can't be turned off, they won't
get ANY of my cash OR card numbers. Since it is my money, it is my
choice, and its not open for discussion.
You have been helpful on this list for a long time, and the fact that
you and I don't see eye to eye does
not prevent me from saying: take care, and stay well Michael.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
