Re: Resolved (was: Re: OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router)

2023-05-03 Thread songbird
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: ... > ... Sometimes I feel > like an idiot. > > All seems well. :) i've had days like that... glad you figured it out. completely OT from your issue, but today i finally upgraded my stable partition from whatever it was on (last major update was probably a year

Resolved (was: Re: OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router)

2023-05-03 Thread rhkramer
Intentionally top posting: Thanks to all who replied, I got the Arris DG2470A modem (/ router) working in bridge mode with my existing router (Ubiquiti Edge Router X). I made a dumb mistake -- I had my router and another computer plugged into the Arris (I used the other computer to configure th

Re: OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router

2023-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Apr 2023 at 14:25:20 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Some key phrases / sub topics: >* Astound (cable based) ISP in eastern Pa. area >* Arris DG2470A modem / router in bridge mode with Ubiquiti Edge Router X >* Ubiquiti Edge Router X in DMZ [ … ] > I

Re: OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router

2023-04-28 Thread john doe
On 4/28/23 20:25, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Some key phrases / sub topics: * Astound (cable based) ISP in eastern Pa. area * Arris DG2470A modem / router in bridge mode with Ubiquiti Edge Router X * Ubiquiti Edge Router X in DMZ I'm tired but I'm lost at your set up and

Re: OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router

2023-04-28 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Some key phrases / sub topics: >* Astound (cable based) ISP in eastern Pa. area >* Arris DG2470A modem / router in bridge mode with Ubiquiti Edge Router X >* Ubiquiti Edge Router X in DMZ > I've now signed up to a new ISP (Astound

OT: Using my (new) cable based ISP with their modem in bridge mode and my existing router

2023-04-28 Thread rhkramer
Some key phrases / sub topics: * Astound (cable based) ISP in eastern Pa. area * Arris DG2470A modem / router in bridge mode with Ubiquiti Edge Router X * Ubiquiti Edge Router X in DMZ Aside: I'm in a catch 22 -- my new, cable-based ISP (Astound / RCN) says my questions are o

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-04-15 Thread Bret Busby
30 mars 2023, 23:56 de debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de: I was successful at downloading the video with: yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastly_token=Nj

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread DdB
Am 31.03.2023 um 00:28 schrieb l0f...@tuta.io: > How do you get that URL? Via your browser resource/code inspector? Hi, i had been asking not having to answer that question, because i myself do not really understand, how it works. I stumbled across an explanation while skimming through open issue

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 30 mars 2023, 23:56 de debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de: > I was successful at downloading the video with: > >> yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c >> https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastl

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:28:23 +0200 (CEST) l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Hello l0f...@tuta.io, >Interesting theory but I can play that specific video in my browser >without being logged in ;) Weird; I had to log in first. No idea why your experience differs. Still, as this doesn't forward the core issu

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread DdB
Am 30.03.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Bret Busby: > On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote: >> On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I had previously been able to use youtu

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hello Brad, 30 mars 2023, 23:20 de b...@fineby.me.uk: > >In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation > >says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work > >for familysearch.org visibly... > > Largely, I suspect, it's because to access video on th

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:55:05 +0200 (CEST) l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Hello l0f...@tuta.io, >In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation >says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work >for familysearch.org visibly... Largely, I suspect, it's becaus

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread l0f4r0
Hello, 30 mars 2023, 20:46 de b...@busby.net: > Fri Mar 31 02:18:31 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$yt-dlp > https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng > [generic] > expanding-your-family-tree-with-side

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote: On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from youtube, but, it no longer work

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 01:08:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: [...] > Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list: > we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this > morning on a reference given by David Christensen: T

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > > > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. > >

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote: On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp. You can downlo

youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp. You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you'

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Curt
On 2023-03-30, Bret Busby wrote: > > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube. > If you're not using the latest version, this is it: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl-2021.12.17.tar.gz I used this (or

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Bret Busby
. Conspiracy theories tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs pursued on my end here. BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP throttling as a most likely answer. :)

OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread rhkramer
tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs > pursued on my end here. > > BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't > wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP > throttling as a most likely answe

One way to send emails to LAN hosts and to ISP, was Re: Permissions and delivery of LAN email by exim

2019-09-09 Thread David Wright
ally run under Exim’s > own uid and gid. Sure, but "local" messages are those from hostS to hostS, and hostR to hostR; not those from hostS to hostR, which are remote. And that doesn't seem difficult until you realise that with the smarthost configuration on hostS, either all y

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 04/01/2018 à 05:32, Michael Stone a écrit : No, it's a pretty common shorthand to say "routable" to mean "routable on the public internet", especially where there's no real possibility of confusing it with specifically non-routable blocks like 127.0.0.0/8. This is still a mistake. In tec

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 07:04:46PM -0600, David Wright wrote: (In view of https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/01/msg00126.html do you mean public?) No, it's a pretty common shorthand to say "routable" to mean "routable on the public internet", especially where there's no real possibility

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, January 03, 2018 01:39:14 PM Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: > In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need to > skip an unknown nu

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread David Wright
On Wed 03 Jan 2018 at 13:39:14 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: > > In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need > to skip an unknown nu

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 03/01/2018 à 03:19, David Wright a écrit : For example, and sticking to unroutable addresses, they might be on 192.168.… in one place, 10.… in another etc. Private addresses are routable. They are just not routed over the public internet. Link local addresses (169.254.0.0/16) are not routa

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need to skip an unknown number of hops before you get to a routeable IP, at which point you m

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
rhkra...@gmail.com (2018-01-03): > I hope the OP is still "listening". If he is, he is probably enjoying the time wasted by his nonsensical question. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread rhkramer
) that traceroute may provide a way forward: * Connect to (any of) your ISP(s). * traceroute somewhere (I'm not sure where atm--maybe some neutral party like google) * Parse the results of the ping to get the numeric address of your ISP * whois that numeric address I think that

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 11:15:16 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> > Max Power wrote: >> > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEW

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Max Power wrote: >> > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 11:15:16 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Max Power wrote: > > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > > > before starting br

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-03 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Max Power wrote: > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > > bef

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Max Power wrote: >> > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] >> > before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> >> Check

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:47:39PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi, Max. I don't know what your intentions are in repeating your qualms after two solutions were offered to you. Either get along with the new "ip" or just install the old net-tools. They are not going away (at least not as long as

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Max Power wrote: > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > > Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will n

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nearly never provide you with an ISP'

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:05:58PM +, Curt wrote: [...] > There just was another thread around here initiated by Max Power, the > current OP, I do believe [...] Indeed, it was Max (cc'ing him/her just in case). I didn't remember, but checked now

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release '

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-02, wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: >> My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] >> before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> With the 'route' command it was so ea

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > With the 'route' command it was so

Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Max Power
My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet is not installed by d

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-10 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 10, 2017 06:56:10 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Eh, I was thinking more stuff like Minecraft, Space Engineers, or other > "real time" multiplayer games, where there is a fair bit of > communication between the client and server. I guessed that, which was w

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-10 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:36:50 AM Dan Purgert wrote: >> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> > 2. I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as the >> > ratio of the octets / bytes between the two flows is general

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Old India like new india and oceania are all old British colonies, no native English speakers there. Ask the Scots and the Irish to tell you all about their native languages. rhkra...@gmail.com: > I have to be ready to deal with the support people in > India--IIRC from last time, I can insist on

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: >> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the >> > MTUs >> > >> > On the: MTU is: >> > WAN VC1540 >> > Ethernet 1500 >> >> Yuck.

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:36:50 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > 2. I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as the > > ratio of the octets / bytes between the two flows is generally > > something like 10 to 1. I&#x

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:00:15AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the > > > MTUs >

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the > > MTUs > > > > On the: MTU is: > > WAN VC1540 > > Ethernet 1500 > > Yuck. Hate it when people start mucking ar

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > But I do have two quick comments: > > 1. I am definitely comparing the IN on one side of the modem to the > OUT on the other, and Okay, good (people misinterpret the directions a lot ;) ) > > 2. I'm sure that I'm looking

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the MTUs > > On the: MTU is: > WAN VC1540 > Ethernet 1500 > Yuck. Hate it when people start mucking around with MTUs ... -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github:

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread rhkramer
Thanks! Maybe I will have to do some wiresharking ;-) I guess though, that without something like a smart router, I'd only be able to look at data going in and out of my Linux / Debian computers (by loading wireshark on each), and not the other devices on the system. I will probably spend at

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 08:26:46AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Dan (and Lisi): Thanks for the responses! > > On this one I will need to cogitate a little before either understanding > fully > (and reaching "enlightenment") or responding with

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread rhkramer
dem to the OUT on the other, and 2. I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as the ratio of the octets / bytes between the two flows is generally something like 10 to 1. I'm sure that I am not uploading 10 times (or even the same number) of bytes as I am down

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread rhkramer
I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the MTUs On the: MTU is: WAN VC1540 Ethernet 1500 So, the numbers are a little different, but still relate the same way Dan mentioned, that is, the WAN VC MTU is larger than the Ethernet MTU. (So this doesn'

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread Dan Purgert
ckets are about the same, and the difference > mainly is that the packet size on the VC WAN "Data Out" are about > twice the size of the packets on the Ethernet / LAN side. Don't forget that the routing device itself will be generating traffic, such as DNS lookups for you LAN

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-07 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, February 06, 2017 06:24:40 PM Dan Purgert wrote: >> Could be MTU differences, and the router needing to do something (e.g. >> 1500 on the LAN side, and 1452 on the WAN, which is usually typical for >> DSL / PPPoE connections). > > BTW, thanks Dan for your resp

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread rhkramer
I'm the guy who was gobsmacked by the amount of data we (my son and I) are sucking down from our ISP (Earthlink via DSL). I've found something else that I don't understand. I'm going to keep this general at first--if anybody needs specifics, I'll try to provide them.

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 07 February 2017 00:13:42 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, February 06, 2017 06:24:40 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > > It's a bit hard to figure out what you're actually seeing happen though, > > since your post somehow repeated itself several times, in a pretty big > > mess (there wasn't

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, February 06, 2017 06:24:40 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > Could be MTU differences, and the router needing to do something (e.g. > 1500 on the LAN side, and 1452 on the WAN, which is usually typical for > DSL / PPPoE connections). BTW, thanks Dan for your response--I hope the resent email is a

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, February 06, 2017 06:24:40 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > It's a bit hard to figure out what you're actually seeing happen though, > since your post somehow repeated itself several times, in a pretty big > mess (there wasn't a given start / end of one post, but rather several > copies interleav

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >* Why are there twice as many bytes measured coming in (from >Earthlink) measured on the WAN VC side of the router as measured on >the Ethernet / LAN side of the router (or, I guess the analagous >question is why are the packets twice as big? (I mean, i

Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-06 Thread rhkramer
I'm the guy who was gobsmacked by the amount of data we (my son and I) are sucking down from our ISP (Earthlink via DSL). I've found something else that I don't understand. I'm going to keep this general at first--if anybody needs specifics, I'll try to provide them.

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Re: SOLVED Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-06-01 Thread Frank
t decent DSL service. So I use cable from Videotron...the only other ISP is Bell Canada...at least as far as non-DSL services. So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place :) Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: SOLVED Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-31 Thread David Christensen
On 05/31/2015 12:10 PM, Frank wrote: I really would like to switch ISPs but basically the only other one available is Bell Canadawhom I dislike more than Videotron!! I live in California. Apparently, there are laws here that require the telephone company -- AT&T in my case -- to allow sma

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 31 May 2015 13:03:32 -0400 "John D. Hendrickson" wrote: Hello John, >yes and no. Etc, etc. Don't Cc a message to me. I'm subbed to the list, so will see messages here. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent"

SOLVED Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-31 Thread Frank
eir login credentials got into spammers' hands, yet their account was being used to relay spam. I'm not saying it is what happened, just that your ISP might not be entirely wrong. Have you tried asking them for logging? Mart > I did as part of a general email I sent them. We

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-30 Thread Frank
eir login credentials got into spammers' hands, yet their account was being used to relay spam. I'm not saying it is what happened, just that your ISP might not be entirely wrong. Have you tried asking them for logging? Mart I did as part of a general email I sent them. We'll see

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-30 Thread Mart van de Wege
ing a wireless network where someone is running a sniffer, or having a keylogger on your Windows install (I read you dual-boot?) I *have* seen this happen; customers who had no idea how their login credentials got into spammers' hands, yet their account was being used to relay spam. I'm not sayin

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 30 May 2015 07:40:02 Charlie wrote: > A compromised account would have to be just so much smoke. > > Why would they keep giving you new passwords if they thought that? Because with a new password it might no longer be compromised? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 29 May 2015 08:31:49 +0200 Petter Adsen sent: > I don't quite see why they have any reason to believe your system is > compromised, unless there is something they aren't telling you (and > that would be irresponsible of them, IMHO). A compromised account would have to be just so much smok

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread ken
On 05/29/2015 06:04 AM, ken wrote: ...the above stuff should do the trick on a fully upgraded system. I meant to say "updated". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lis

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Frank
On 05/29/2015 06:52 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Frank writes: On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote: On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent: When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Frank
On 05/29/2015 06:04 AM, ken wrote: On 05/27/2015 09:06 PM, Frank wrote: This is long so I hope all can read till the end. I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been flawless until yesterday. When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Frank
into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing had changed. I have no answer. However, with my ISP I periodically have the same problem. I attempt to log on with claws-mail, without changing anything, no update, no

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Frank
On 05/28/2015 10:06 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 05/27/2015 06:06 PM, Frank wrote: I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been flawless until yesterday. snip/// When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Frank
ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing had changed. I have no answer. However, with my ISP I periodically have the same problem. I attempt to log on with claws-mail, without changing anything, no update, no upgrade to the system. No tinkering, nothing at all and of the

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread Mart van de Wege
Frank writes: > On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote: >> On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote: >>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent: >>> >>>> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my >>>> ISP Videot

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-29 Thread ken
On 05/27/2015 09:06 PM, Frank wrote: This is long so I hope all can read till the end. I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been flawless until yesterday. When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 01:42:14PM -0400, Deb wrote: > > > On 05/28/2015 01:23 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >Frank writes: > >>It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the > >>account or perhaps your whole computer is infected"

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Petter Adsen
ent: > > >> > > >>> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with > > >>> my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact > > >>> nothing had changed. > > >> > > >> I have no answer. However,

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:05 -0400 Frank wrote: > On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote: > > On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent: > >> > >>> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread David Christensen
On 05/27/2015 06:06 PM, Frank wrote: I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been flawless until yesterday. When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing had changed. They keep

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
:44 -0400 Frank wrote: [cut] One more thing on this problem: Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder There are viruses that run on Linux

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Deb
On 05/28/2015 06:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I once told a lawyer that she couldn't do arithemetic. She was put out and said that she had an A in A level Mathematics. I said that she still couldn't do arithmetic. Lisi A mathematician told me that, once you start doing fourth-year university mat

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400 > >>>> Frank wrote: > >>>> > >>>> [cut] > >>>> > >>>>> One more thing on this problem: > >>>>> > >>>>> Are there in fact any viruses th

Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Janis Hamme
Janis Am 28.05.2015 um 03:06 schrieb Frank: > This is long so I hope all can read till the end. > > I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been > flawless until yesterday. > When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my > ISP V

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
-day one of my accounts with my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing had changed. That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six gmail accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird set to remember passwords. At first I couldn&#

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
On 28/05/15 03:20 PM, John Hasler wrote: Brad writes: In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service. With plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation. I've been with newsguy.com for year

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses As

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
One more thing on this problem: > >>> > >>> Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I > >>> know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my > >>> ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder > &

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread John Hasler
Brad writes: > In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service. With > plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder > why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation. I've been with newsguy.com for years. I'm very pleased with their service

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
been seen in the wild. about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder Your ISP should know just what little real risk their is; Most of their hardware is run on *nix based OS. What it boils down to is that the scripts they have

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
hunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with > >>>> my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact > >>>> nothing had changed. > >> > >> That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six > >> gmail acco

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Frank
fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses As

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread Deb
On 05/28/2015 01:23 PM, John Hasler wrote: Frank writes: It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account or perhaps your whole computer is infected". The only Linux malware in the wild attacks Web sites via vulnerabilities in things like PHP.

Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

2015-05-28 Thread John Hasler
Frank writes: > It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the > account or perhaps your whole computer is infected". The only Linux malware in the wild attacks Web sites via vulnerabilities in things like PHP. Aside from the difficulty there is no mo

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