Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Nate Duehr wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote: > > AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source > > are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. > > You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series? Considering he said `in release o

Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-21 Thread Nate Duehr
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote: > AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source > are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. All others are > either junk and pretty unstable or useless (at least IMHO). > So, I've never really seen any use i

Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-20 Thread Bernd Hentig
> Sorry for having been this silent. In the past few days I've spent many hours > on getting debian-cd ready for 2.2 rev3 (issues you mentioned, updated/ > redesigned README (matching www.d.o but actually better code) and the > long-promised "make-a-useful-CD1" project which involved lots of test

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:15:34PM +0100, lance wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > lance wrote: > > > > Sorry - the difference between 1.2.1, 1.2.2 and 2.1r2, 2.2r3 escapes me - > > > is the 'r' supposed to have special meaning ?? > > > > short for "revision" which has the

Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-19 Thread Philip Hands
"J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry for having been this silent. In the past few days I've spent > many hours on getting debian-cd ready for 2.2 rev3 (issues you > mentioned, updated/ redesigned README (matching www.d.o but actually > better code) and the long-promised "make-a-usefu

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:08:17AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:00:41PM +0100, lance wrote: > >> If it turns out that the changes take up more than a CD then maybe it >> shouldnt be a point release after all ?? > >I doubt the changes run to anything like a CD full. How

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread lance
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > lance wrote: > > Sorry - the difference between 1.2.1, 1.2.2 and 2.1r2, 2.2r3 escapes me - > > is the 'r' supposed to have special meaning ?? > > short for "revision" which has the meaning of minor version. So I suppose it should really be 2.2.3r1 the

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:00:41PM +0100, lance wrote: > Sorry - the difference between 1.2.1, 1.2.2 and 2.1r2, 2.2r3 escapes me - > is the 'r' supposed to have special meaning ?? 'r' is for revision. 2.2r3 is a minor revision of 2.2. 2.2.3 looks like a new version. The different escapes me too --

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
lance wrote: > > Do you advertise your CD set as "2.2r2", or just "2.2"? I think > > the latter would be accurate enough, and should help to avoid > > complaints from your customers that your CDs are too old. Actually that was the idea behind it, cd vendors don't advertise 2.2.3 or 2.2r3 but ``2.2

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
lance wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > > > All I am asking for is enough time to make a reasonable effort at making > > > and shipping the version before the next version is released. If you want > > > to have interi

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Philip Blundell
>Do you advertise your CD set as "2.2r2", or just "2.2"? I think >the latter would be accurate enough, and should help to avoid >complaints from your customers that your CDs are too old. Perhaps it would help for someone to produce a "2.2r0 - 2.2r3 upgrade kit" image that could be burned onto a s

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread lance
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > > All I am asking for is enough time to make a reasonable effort at making > > and shipping the version before the next version is released. If you want > > to have interim releases with minor fix

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:45:33PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > > All I am asking for is enough time to make a reasonable effort at making > > and shipping the version before the next version is released. If you want > > to have interim rel

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > All I am asking for is enough time to make a reasonable effort at making > and shipping the version before the next version is released. If you want > to have interim releases with minor fixes - why not call them 2.2r3.1 etc > and produce an

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:02:45PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > > > > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > > > > > my plan is to release a new point release of stable about every

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > > > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > > > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > > > > my plan is to release a new point release of stable about

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > >The other alternative would be to produce an update cd that contained the >updates from 2.2r2 to 2.2r3 - especially if the update cd could be the cd >to install from :) > >All I am asking for is enough time to make a reasonable effort at mak

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
lance wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > lance wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > > > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > > > my pla

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > The other alternative would be to produce an update cd that contained the > updates from 2.2r2 to 2.2r3 - especially if the update cd could be the cd > to install from :) That's not a bad idea, really. A minimal CD#1 that includes all the ch

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:50PM +0100, lance wrote: > > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > > > my plan is to release a new point release of stable about every one to > > > > two m

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread lance
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > lance wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > > my plan is to release a new point r

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:50:36PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait: > > > Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image > > > configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg > > > tonight cdimage.de

2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-19 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait: > > > Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image > > > configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg > > > tonight cdimage.debian.org still has

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait: > > > Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image > > > configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg > > > tonight cdimage.debian.org still has no idea about 2.2r3 - s

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait: > > Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image > > configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg > > tonight cdimage.debian.org still has no idea about 2.2r3 - shouldnt .isos > > be part of th

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image > > configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg > > tonight cdimage.debian.org still has no idea about 2.2r3 - shouldnt .isos > > be part of the r

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-19 Thread Martin Schulze
lance wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > > my plan is to release a new point release of stable about every one to > > two monthts. I

Re: Stable Release plan

2001-04-18 Thread lance
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Martin Schulze wrote: > Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how > they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, > my plan is to release a new point release of stable about every one to > two monthts. I'll continue to prepare r

Stable Release plan

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Considering how stable releaes were handled recently or better how they weren't handled properly with regards to our duty to our users, my plan is to release a new point release of stable about every one to two monthts. I'll continue to prepare releases and help our ftp-masters with this. Having