On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 at 5:28 PM, Ana Maria DOS SANTOS
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have 3 questions about Debian 12 :
>
> - Will you incorporate dash to dock natively ?
> - Can you on your new installer calamares make the possibility to not install
> debian with
Hello,
I have 3 questions about Debian 12 :
- Will you incorporate dash to dock natively ?
- Can you on your new installer calamares make the possibility to not
install debian with full package list ? Like install only gnome-core,
because at the moment i can't find a way to install Debian
Hello Ben Pinson (Jean)
Thanks for your interest in Debian!
The 'Project' mailing list is intended for project-related project-wise
discussions.
Nonetheless, I'll answer you here in order to facilitate things for you.
On Saturday, 15 February 2025 at 10:08 AM, Ben Pinson
wrote:
> 1. Do yo
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 01:08:06PM +, Ben Pinson wrote:
Hi, Ben
first of all, this mailing list is more for the project's coordination.
Your questions will get more and better answers in debian-user (I set
the followup to there).
Now to your questions:
> 1.
> Do you offer an
1.
Do you offer any live USBs for sale?
2.
I've tried to join the Debian forums, but it says I'm a Spammer? Any ideas?
I've tried to contact the admin, but I've gotten no response in the last 17
days.
Thank you,
Jean
Hello, dear Debian team! I just wanna ask some questions to you:
1. Do you add Awesome WM and DWM in installation? If not, why? If yes, when?
2. Do you add Pulsar editor (https://pulsar-edit.dev/) in debian stable
repository?
On Thu, 2023-08-03 at 08:41 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> What is the "modern" way to install an operating system on hardware
There are some potentially more modern future options:
Plug in the device to a USB port, visit the installer web page, click
the button to install the OS, done. This can be
Bill Miller dijo [Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:42:21AM -0400]:
> Just like that;
>
> When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go
> to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS. it warns
> me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my OS. It will the
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:42:21AM -0400, Bill Miller wrote:
> Just like that;
>
> When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go
> to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS. it warns
> me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my OS [...]
No
Dear Bill,
If this isn't trolling, you've actually got your answer hidden in your
description.
> I go to update
Installing a new OS is not updating the existing.
Regards,
Nihat.
On Sun, 2023-08-06 at 08:42 -0400, Bill Miller wrote:
> Just like that;
>
> When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I d
On ഞാ, ഓഗ 6 2023 at 08:42:21 രാവിലെ -04:00:00
-04:00:00, Bill Miller wrote:
Just like that;
When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything.
I go to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new
OS. it warns me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my
On 06/08/23 18:12, Bill Miller wrote:
Just like that;
When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go
to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS. it warns
me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my OS. It will then ask me
for my password. On
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:42:21AM -0400, Bill Miller wrote:
> When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go
> to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS.
Updating an installed OS with a new version of the same OS is something
completely different
Just like that;
When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go
to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS. it warns
me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my OS. It will then ask me
for my password. Once i put in my password, up comes a box
Hi Bill , the point your friend is trying to make is absolutely
meaningless. There is no operating system in today's time which does not
require it's installation image to be directly downloaded from cloud and
then flashed onto usb drive for installation . If you are talking about
Microsoft windows
* ghostbar [2023-08-03 09:26]:
If you want to run it like an application in your current operating
system, you can use a virtual machine like VirtualBox[2].
The Windows Subsystem for Linux can install Debian, too:
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Microsoft/Windows/SubsystemForLinux
On 8/2/23 21:40, Bill Miller wrote:
I really want to try Debian but i dont live in the 90's CDs and USB
drives times. why cant i just install Debian from a digital cloud? i
dont understand why i need physical hardware to run digital software?
Hi Bill,
This is a good question for debian-user@l.
Hello Bill,
thanks for your Interest in Debian and also for your ramblings, which I
don't quote for brevity.
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:40:51PM -0400, Bill Miller wrote:
> I really want to try Debian but i dont live in the 90's CDs and USB
> drives times. why cant i just install Debian from a dig
Is there a version of Debian that does not require 1990's technology?
because i would really really want that Debian.I would download that
in a second. However most of Debian still works off "image"? Still? Is
there a new digital addition of Debian that I can download and install
without using "ima
this one.
But I ran into some questions about performance, because the system
itself consumes 1.3 GB of RAM in my machine and some lag, while the
stable version (Bullseye) runs with just 600 MB with no performance
issues (using the same hardware in both cases). Just to put in
perspective, m
not stable)
when it comes to bugs. And I was really looking forward for the stable
version of this one.
But I ran into some questions about performance, because the system itself
consumes 1.3 GB of RAM in my machine and some lag, while the stable version
(Bullseye) runs with just 600 MB with no p
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 04:27:28PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-04-13 at 14:14 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > I'm unaware of Russian law at the moment: it is possible that import and
> > use in Russia would be legitimate under Russian law.
>
> There already are Russian Debian der
On Wed, 2022-04-13 at 14:14 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> The review by the NSA went long ago. Debian has treated the code as being
> exportable worldwide but has not normally accepted new official mirrors in
> countries subject to US sanctions like Iran, Syria or Cuba.
There has been an off
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:44:02PM +0300, Екатерина Лапшина wrote:
> Good afternoon!
>
>
Good afternoon, Ekaterina
>
> We are planning to use Debian Source Code build 11.3 (the “Software”) in
> Russia and have several questions related to Unrestricted Encryption Source
&
Good afternoon!
We are planning to use Debian Source Code build 11.3 (the “Software”) in
Russia and have several questions related to Unrestricted Encryption Source
Code Notification Commodity (
https://www.debian.org/legal/notificationforarchive, “Notification”) and
export restrictions of the
Am Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 11:06:54AM + schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> On February 23, 2022 8:50:58 AM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:06:17AM -0500 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> >>
> >> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
> >> I
> >> th
On February 23, 2022 8:50:58 AM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote:
>Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:06:17AM -0500 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
>>
>> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
>> I
>> think every non-government job I've had had a discipline process that went:
>
Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:06:17AM -0500 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
>
> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution. I
> think every non-government job I've had had a discipline process that went:
>
> 1. Verbal warning.
> 2. Written warning.
> 3. You're fired.
In
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:59:21PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
[...]
> And, as I already told too in other mail threads that you are quite
> efficient at interpreting what people wrote to you the worst possible
> way [...]
> Whether it's intentional or not, I'm still wondering, although t
Felix Lechner wrote on 21/02/2022 at 19:10:08+0100:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:06 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
>>
>> Right now, you are doing exactly what Enrico described: creating
>> conflict where there was none.
>
> I think you are blowing it out of proportion. There is no conflict but
On Monday, February 21, 2022 4:09:37 PM EST Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
> Scott> OTOH, I think a DAM warning for a single instance of someone
> Scott> losing their temper and calling someone an unfortunate name
> Scott> is like ringing a doorbell with
> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
Scott> OTOH, I think a DAM warning for a single instance of someone
Scott> losing their temper and calling someone an unfortunate name
Scott> is like ringing a doorbell with a sledge hammer.
I strongly agree. And I understand why it is that y
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:03 PM Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 5:24:47 PM EST Sam Hartman wrote:
> > > "Felix" == Felix Lechner writes:
> > In the interest of full disclosure, I no longer have any affiliation
> > with DAM.
> >
> > Felix> With regard to disciplina
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 01:08:42PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> OTOH, I think a DAM warning for a single instance of someone losing their
> temper and calling someone an unfortunate name is like ringing a doorbell
> with
> a sledge hammer. If that's now the standard for threatening removal,
f good faith and trying to find a non-hostile
> reading of other people's words.
>
> My phrasing doubtless could have been better or clearer. It always can
> be. But you can ask questions rather than making assumptions!
>
> When you do this and then, a few messages lat
Felix Lechner writes:
> Your statement is the opposite of what I felt. In fact, I asked for the
> circumstances to be published on debian-private. It was calming to me,
> so your interpretation is not correct.
Thank you for the correction! I'm sorry for having misunderstood you.
You'd made othe
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:06 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> Right now, you are doing exactly what Enrico described: creating
> conflict where there was none.
I think you are blowing it out of proportion. There is no conflict but
a diversity of opinion.
Kind regards
Felix Lechner
On Monday, February 21, 2022 12:33:55 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > The reason it feels like a threat of expulsion is precisely because it
> > is a threat of expulsion. The minimal possible solution to people
> > feeling threatened would be to not threaten them. That m
you seem to be intent on
continuing to do that with me and others at random intervals instead of
extending a presumption of good faith and trying to find a non-hostile
reading of other people's words.
My phrasing doubtless could have been better or clearer. It always can
be. But you can ask quest
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:06 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> That is precisely the opposite of what I meant.
Thank you for clarifying.
> What I'm trying to express is that the warning *entirely reasonably* made
> you feel shamed and attacked for a number of reasons, including the fact
> that it
Marc Haber writes:
> But please don't forget that a person vanishing from a heated discussion
> just in a whim creates the feeling of victory in the orht discussion
> parties.
> And I KNOW what I would do as participant of a heated discussion after
> receiving a DAM warning.
I think the way you
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 08:51:51AM -0800, Felix Lechner wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:29 AM Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >
> > This is getting worrying. Russ expressed sympathy about the bad
> > effects that warnings could have on people, and you've somehow
> > misinterpreted that as a direct atta
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:38 AM Enrico Zini wrote:
>
> Then you need to start taking responsibility for creating conflict when
> there was none, which is sadly something I see as a recurring pattern in
> the way you participate in Debian interactions.
>
> Is this something you'd acknowledge a
Scott Kitterman writes:
> The reason it feels like a threat of expulsion is precisely because it
> is a threat of expulsion. The minimal possible solution to people
> feeling threatened would be to not threaten them. That may not be
> enough, but that would be a first step. Focusing on the fee
On February 21, 2022 5:02:37 PM UTC, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Felix Lechner writes:
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> Or, let me put this another way: one of the fears that I've seen
>>> expressed around warnings is that it's a permanent record sort of
>>> thing, or it
Felix Lechner writes:
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Or, let me put this another way: one of the fears that I've seen
>> expressed around warnings is that it's a permanent record sort of
>> thing, or it starts a file on someone, or otherwise creates a
>> presumption of
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:29 AM Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> This is getting worrying. Russ expressed sympathy about the bad
> effects that warnings could have on people, and you've somehow
> misinterpreted that as a direct attack on you.
Thank you, but despite your condescending tone I retain
Felix...
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:25:46AM -0800, Felix Lechner wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>>
>> Or, let me put this another way: one of the fears that I've seen expressed
>> around warnings is that it's a permanent record sort of thing, or it
>> starts a file o
On 2022/02/21 16:40, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On February 21, 2022 12:56:43 PM UTC, Jonathan Carter wrote:
On 2022/02/21 14:40, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I didn't intend to communicate that it was a final step. I think we agree. A
DAM warning, as you said, indicates someone is on a path to suspe
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> Or, let me put this another way: one of the fears that I've seen expressed
> around warnings is that it's a permanent record sort of thing, or it
> starts a file on someone, or otherwise creates a presumption of future bad
> behavior.
On February 21, 2022 12:56:43 PM UTC, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>On 2022/02/21 14:40, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> I didn't intend to communicate that it was a final step. I think we agree.
>> A DAM warning, as you said, indicates someone is on a path to suspension or
>> expulsion. I don't have
On 2022/02/21 14:40, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I didn't intend to communicate that it was a final step. I think we agree. A
DAM warning, as you said, indicates someone is on a path to suspension or
expulsion. I don't have a problem with this. What bothers me is trying to
pretend it's somethin
On February 21, 2022 11:33:07 AM UTC, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>On 2022/02/21 07:06, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
>
>I don't believe that's quite accurate, a DAM warning isn't necessarily
>meant as a final warning, it's a la
On 2022/02/21 07:06, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
I don't believe that's quite accurate, a DAM warning isn't necessarily
meant as a final warning, it's a larger prod for an individual to course
correct their behaviour.
If
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 09:18:15AM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Russ Allbery wrote on 21/02/2022 at 07:30:48+0100:
> > BTW, also on that front, I think that announcing DAM warnings to the
> > project is a serious mistake. I understand the thought process that went
> > into that decision,
Sam Hartman wrote:
> I think phrasing this in terms of justice and rights for keeping
governments accountable is likely to get a knee-jerk reaction from a
number of people who do not want to think of things that.
> It's fairly clear to a number of us that maintaining standards of a
private comm
Russ Allbery wrote:
> We need a careful and slow process for kicking someone out of the project
because that's a big deal. Having a careful and slow process for issuing
a warning is faintly absurd,
I see your point and to some extent I agree -- but if repeated
warnings then become grounds for bei
Russ Allbery wrote on 21/02/2022 at 07:30:48+0100:
> BTW, also on that front, I think that announcing DAM warnings to the
> project is a serious mistake. I understand the thought process that went
> into that decision, but I really don't agree with it. The effect is to
> make someone feel attac
Scott Kitterman writes:
> I think that makes sense, but I think it's really pretty much the same
> thing. The "perceived authority" that means people treat feedback from
> DAM differently is the authority to suspend or expell. Ultimately and
> unavoidably, a DAM warning comes with an undercurre
On February 21, 2022 5:32:35 AM UTC, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Scott Kitterman writes:
>> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:13:03 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> I guess the other possibility is that people really want warnings to be
>>> way more serious than any meaning I personally would ascribe t
Scott Kitterman writes:
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:13:03 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I guess the other possibility is that people really want warnings to be
>> way more serious than any meaning I personally would ascribe to the
>> word "warning" and are thinking of them as formal project
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:13:03 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
> Sam Hartman writes:
> > Figuring out how to accomplish requesting a statement is a little
> > tricky, but I think it is worth the effort. DAM takes membership
> > actions (including warnings) by consensus. It's fairly difficult t
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 5:24:47 PM EST Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Felix" == Felix Lechner writes:
> In the interest of full disclosure, I no longer have any affiliation
> with DAM.
>
> Felix> With regard to disciplinary proceedings, however, Debian has
> Felix> a long way to go in i
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes:
Russ> Sam Hartman writes:
Russ> I dunno, I realize I may be being too cavalier here, but see
Russ> the point above about making more decisions, faster, and
Russ> accepting a few mistakes. If we end up with a rash of bogus
Russ> warnings,
Sam Hartman writes:
> Figuring out how to accomplish requesting a statement is a little
> tricky, but I think it is worth the effort. DAM takes membership
> actions (including warnings) by consensus. It's fairly difficult to get
> all the members of DAM together.
> I don't think it would work
> "Felix" == Felix Lechner writes:
Felix> Alas, I'll venture that the folks whose opinions you consider
Felix> superior have never been punished.
The word punished implies a framing of the problem I personally reject.
But if for example you'd consider being banned from the BTS a
puni
Felix Lechner wrote on 20/02/2022 at 23:42:31+0100:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 2:25 PM Sam Hartman wrote:
>>
>> A number of people over the years have talked about embodying some of
>> the processes and protections of a trial in community management actions
>> in Debian. That has includ
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 2:25 PM Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> A number of people over the years have talked about embodying some of
> the processes and protections of a trial in community management actions
> in Debian. That has included ideas like having the project as a whole
> decide/affirm the
> "Felix" == Felix Lechner writes:
In the interest of full disclosure, I no longer have any affiliation
with DAM.
Felix> With regard to disciplinary proceedings, however, Debian has
Felix> a long way to go in implementing basic precepts of
Felix> justice. For example, it would be
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:43 PM David wrote:
> Hi, my name is David and I'm a 17 years old student from Austria.
Welcome!
Please keep Debian in mind if you decide to join the Google Summer of
Code program when you reach university. GSoC is the main paid
internship program for Free Software and Op
Hi David,
Davide's reply is great and I second that.
Like him, I'm not a developer, so I won't directly reply to your questions.
But I'd like to add a few suggestions.
If you're familiar with IRC, you might have some luck getting an answer in
there. Additionally, you
nt to know more read that:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
I have two questions about Debian.
you can read the Debian FAQ (also available in German language):
https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#faq
and you can take a look in the Debian reference:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/d
have to write
a VWA (Vorwissenschaftliche Arbeit), I don't know how it's called in
English, basically it's a work you have to write to finish school. I'm
writing about homenetworks with Open Source and freeware, so I have two
questions about Debian.
- Do you think Debian is
verifiable fact
>
> Debian spends $25,000 every year on just four women
>
> The constitution says Debian is a voluntary organization. Paying these women
> is a violation of that core principle.
>
> If people ask questions about that money or anything else you want to avoid,
>
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 09:51:29PM +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > jessie
> no longer supported by Debian. Supported in the LTS project, maintained by
> another people than Debian, until the end of the year 2020.
until the end of June 2020, see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/
> > stretch - s
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL schrieb:
>> stretch - security
>
> the same, but supported more long time by the external team, funded by
> companies to do it
It is not. oldstable-security is supported by the project at large, even
checking the Wikipedia page would have told you...
https://en.wikipedia.or
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 05:34:52PM +0200, Itzik Reuven wrote:
> Hello Debian maintainers,
>
> I have a few questions regarding the debian project and I will be glad for
> some answers:
>
> 1. regarding the release management - from a quick scanning of the release
> I ha
Le 05/02/2020 à 16:34, Itzik Reuven a écrit :
Hello Debian maintainers,
I have a few questions regarding the debian project and I will be glad
for some answers:
1. regarding the release management - from a quick scanning of the
release I have noticed that are 6 release types:
jessie
jessie
Hello Debian maintainers,
I have a few questions regarding the debian project and I will be glad for
some answers:
1. regarding the release management - from a quick scanning of the release
I have noticed that are 6 release types:
jessie
jessie-security
stretch - security
buster
bullseye
sid
I
Le 6 février 2019 10:09:11 GMT+01:00, "Pierre-Elliott Bécue"
a écrit :
>Le 6 février 2019 09:58:34 GMT+01:00, Daniel Pocock
>a écrit :
>>On 06/02/2019 08:54, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>>> Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 09:51:45+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue a
>>écrit :
Le mercredi 06 février
Le 6 février 2019 09:58:34 GMT+01:00, Daniel Pocock a écrit
:
>On 06/02/2019 08:54, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 09:51:45+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue a
>écrit :
>>> Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 08:42:13+, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
On 04/02/2019 22:52, Pierre
Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 09:51:45+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue a écrit :
> Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 08:42:13+, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> > On 04/02/2019 22:52, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you really think that among more than a thousand people, nobody
> > > except the two
Le mercredi 06 février 2019 à 08:42:13+, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> On 04/02/2019 22:52, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >
> > Do you really think that among more than a thousand people, nobody
> > except the two recently expelled developers made an innocent mistake? Do
> > you actually think that
Dear Gavin.
Gavin Howard - 04.02.19, 17:28:
> I am not a contributor, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>
> I was planning on becoming a contributor to Debian recently and joined
> the mailing list in preparation for doing so. And then I saw
> everything that was happening.
>
> It made me
r a
different distribution or project. I certainly agree that people who
decide about who is member or no member of Debian are supposed to treat
everyone fairly… whatever that means concretely.
For me there can be cases for enforcement first, ask questions later. If
a child runs into a car, I
Pierre,
Apologies that I took so long to reply to this; it ended up in my spam
folder for some reason.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:52 PM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> Dear Gavin,
>
> Le lundi 04 février 2019 à 09:28:41-0700, Gavin Howard a écrit :
> > I am not a contributor, so take what I say wi
On 04/02/2019 22:52, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> That being said, don't try to involve Human Rights or any State of Law
> justice notion in this as this is mostly irrelevant to the subject.
See my recently censored blog[1] to understand why this is hypocritical
Among other things, if we didn
On 04/02/2019 13:09, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le 03/02/2019 à 08:38, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
>> [snip]
> Daniel.
[snip]
> Forcing people to hear them again multiples times is neither relevant
> nor a sane thing.
Why make this personal? Why not say the same thing for the
anti-harassment team
Dear Gavin,
Le lundi 04 février 2019 à 09:28:41-0700, Gavin Howard a écrit :
> I am not a contributor, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>
> I was planning on becoming a contributor to Debian recently and joined
> the mailing list in preparation for doing so. And then I saw
> everything th
I am not a contributor, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
I was planning on becoming a contributor to Debian recently and joined
the mailing list in preparation for doing so. And then I saw
everything that was happening.
It made me nervous that people could be accused and removed without
a
Le 03/02/2019 à 08:38, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> [snip]
Daniel.
There are times, not all, but some, when silence is golden.
This is one such time.
We've all heard (rather, read, but let's assume you asserted it so many
times we've actually heard it).
Forcing people to hear them again multiples
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 2:37 AM Daniel Pocock wrote:
> There is no such thing as a toxic person
Res, non verba.
--
Harlan Lieberman-Berg
~hlieberman
On 04/02/2019 08:18, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> In the past, I’ve seen some communities to wither because of a toxic person
> violently pushed their agenda on everybody.
>
> This is certainly following the similar pattern.
>
> That’s my first and last 2 cents to this discussion.
Thanks for your feedbac
In the past, I’ve seen some communities to wither because of a toxic person
violently pushed their agenda on everybody.
This is certainly following the similar pattern.
That’s my first and last 2 cents to this discussion.
Ondřej
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Ondřej Surý
> On 4 Feb 2019, at 07:29, Daniel Pocock wrote:
made
through the history of the project, not just the recent emails from
Chris Lamb? Do we issue guidance to future DPLs that they can never
undermine or speak badly about any developer, past or present?
It is better to answer those questions without reference to any
individual cases.
> For me, t
On 04/02/2019 02:16, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 08:38:54AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> It is a fact that both Lamb and de Blanc have stated at various times
>> during 2018 that they didn't have time to talk to people. It is also a
>> fact that multiple people have complained
On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 08:38:54AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> It is a fact that both Lamb and de Blanc have stated at various times
> during 2018 that they didn't have time to talk to people. It is also a
> fact that multiple people have complained that Debian leadership figures
> are too busy t
Daniel Pocock - 03.02.19, 08:38:
> This reveals a lot about the serious problems in Debian right now.
> Did we really sign up to be part of an experiment like that? I
> didn't.
>
> Why do certain people want to start out with enforcement, skipping
> over normal human relations, avoiding meetings
Hi all,
In Molly de Blanc's FOSDEM talk description[1], the first line reads "Is
there a single right way to enforce a code of conduct, community
guidelines, or whatever you call the systems you have to help maintain a
good community?"
Now might be a good time to watch Das Experiment[2] (or the
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:57 AM Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Jacob,
>
> > In case your interested, it's now at
> > https://salsa.debian.org/Kazan-team/kazan
>
> Welcome to Salsa. :)
thanks chris. i miss alioth... but only for nostalgic / historic reasons :)
> Feel free to drop debian-project from th
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