NAG messages.

1998-09-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
in order to see important mail. As is my right, I request that you cease all such mail to this address. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Fl

RE: NAG messages.

1998-09-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
ne person. Thanks, > > On 19-Sep-98 Dale Scheetz wrote: > > This is a formal request for removal from the NAG distribution list. > > = > * http://benham.net/index.html

Re: NAG messages.

1998-09-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
--- >Tired of spam? See what you can do to fight it at: http://www.cauce.org/ Yes! I'm tired of your spam. STOP! Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Schee

Re: NAG messages.

1998-09-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Vincent Renardias wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > > I don't want to remove people. I feel the nag service is a helpful > > > service > > > for many people that just need a small push to encourage

Re: NAG messages.

1998-09-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
. Clear examples that exhibit the bug. 3. A patch that fixes it. Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [

Re: NAG messages.

1998-09-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
lculates those things, I'll be happy to include it. > So is everyone else, myself included. Please tell me again how useless messages improve my ability to repair bugs? Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale

Re: Bug#40282: ae: Improper priority 'required'

1999-06-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
ary: Shared libraries and > timezone > ii slang1 1.2.2-2The S-Lang programming library - runtime > ver > ii slang1 1.2.2-2 The S-Lang programming library - runtime > ver > > Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User'

Re: Bug#40282: ae: Improper priority 'required'

1999-06-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > ae is required, as it is the only editor on the base system. This was > > discussed in the past and I understood that we were going to leave it > > alone. > > I thought

Re: [PROPOSAL] Archive audit, cruft removal, unmaintained packages

1999-08-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
-) Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- See www.linuxpress.com for more details _-_-_-_-_-_-_-

Re: /usr/doc transition and other things

1999-08-31 Thread Dale Scheetz
s us with little choice but to press ahead. So encourage the other committee members to cast their votes in the current ballet before this committee, so we can get on with our lives. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka

Re: /usr/doc transition and other things

1999-08-31 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Dale Scheetz wrote: > > And rightly so ;-) The committee spent some time debating just exactly > > what the issue really was. I resolved it to be "least surprise" for users > > by retaining /usr/doc during the transition. &

Re: /usr/doc transition and other things

1999-09-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 1 Sep 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > > >> Nope, you don't get it. > > How to win friends and influence people

Re: /usr/doc transition and other things

1999-09-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Dale Scheetz wrote: > > As the rest of the committee seemed to take your proposal as being "not to > > the point" I submit that I'm not the one who "don't get it". > > > > If it isn't "main

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:20:34 +, Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 19:35 -0500, Dale C. Scheetz wrote: > > With regards to GNOME panel icons. The "add to panel" option now no > > longer offers "launcher from menu" so now with the "custom launcer" > > you have to hu

Re: Bug#13287: less uses /usr/bin/editor without it necessarily being there.

1997-10-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
ing /usr/bin/editor. I don't remember there ever being a discussion on this issue. (If it was discussed on debian-policy this could be the reason. I don't subscribe to debian-policy) Can someone point me to the relevant chapters in the policy manual? Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_-

Re: Bug#13287: less uses /usr/bin/editor without it necessarily being there.

1997-10-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
rnatives. Worse than that, using this method adds another question to the installation process of an editor (Do you want "this editor" to be the system default?) Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz

Re: Bug#13287: less uses /usr/bin/editor without it necessarily being there.

1997-10-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 7 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> First of all, I'm not necessarily speaking in opposition to the > Dale> current policy here, but I am objecting to the way policy is &g

Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *

1997-10-25 Thread Dale Scheetz
a really cozey team ;-) Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-

/usr/bin/editor policy implementation

1997-11-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
in the Policy docs, but I'll gladly leave that up to the folks on debian-policy. Any and all comments welcome, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software

Re: new upload procedure approved

1998-01-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > > Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian User's Guide"_-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-

Re: policy violation and bug reports.

1998-02-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
we choose to live and die based on the words in the policy manual rather than making a reasoned decisions, when necessary, that potentially violate policy, the distribution will suffer. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_ Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-

Re: glibc_2.0.7pre1-3 uploaded to master

1998-03-03 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Christian Hudon wrote: > On Tuesday, March 03, Dale Scheetz wrote > > > > Format: 1.5 > > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:02:48 -0500 > > Source: glibc > > Binary: timezones libc6 libc6-pic libc6-dbg locales libc6-doc libc6-dev > > Ar

Re: Bug#19849: libc6-dev: Please recommend gcc | egcc

1998-03-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Scott K. Ellis wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > Well, let me put it to you another way...Why is it libc6's responsibility > > to work out a problem between gcc and egcc. Libc6-dev depends on gcc and > > does not, at this t

changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
I am not on the policy mailing list, so please cc me on this thread. On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Juan Cespedes wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:11:30AM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > > Changelogs are to inform the user of "recent" changes to the programs in > > the

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-12 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Juan Cespedes wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 04:36:14PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > I am not on the policy mailing list, so please cc me on this thread. > > > > Does/Should the policy manual detail which letters may, or may not, be > > upper

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-12 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 08:57:49PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Juan Cespedes wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 04:36:14PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > > I am not on the policy mailing list,

Re: [Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de: Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates]

1998-04-12 Thread Dale Scheetz
he Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
k for the "usual" filename. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
ld this go into slink? Or can it still go into hamm? Maybe > this may cause less confusion if it does go in released hamm. > I think this is a bug fix and should go into frozen. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
e said this before, and I know that some disagree, policy is a set of guidelines, not a straight jacket. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
aiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_-

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > [I reduced the list of recipients.] > > On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > > It's up to you which guidelines you want to follow--but i

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-29 Thread Dale Scheetz
referred to as "the government". When those rules are viewed as more important than the people participating, that view is a Fascist one. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-29 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 29 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of > Dale> developers, set down by the "ruling body", sometimes referred

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
policy of "least surprise" as allowing me to include a link for ChangeLog so that those who are expecting that will find it. A strict reading of the Policy Statement might not lead others to this conclusion, but I don't see that as broken. I am willing to let those more interested in

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> Then you will need to remove libc6, as the loader is not > Dale> stripped, as dictated by policy. If I strip it, as policy > Dale&g

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
y option I have the time or energy for. I will continue to object to the dictatorial nature with which these edicts of the Policy group are being implimented. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> No, because as a guideline it is correct. This has been my point > Dale> all along. Policy is a guideline, which points to a preferred > D

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> The policy is the only standard we have for the distribution; and > >> standard

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
eir noses into other > peoples affairs while they atand martyrted by? This is hilarious. > Well, actually I was suggesting that folks that have the time to hang out on IRC have more time for idle chit chat than I do, and I'm jealous! My real point was that folks who make the rules often do

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > By the way, I do not think I am alone in regarding the Policy > > > as a standards document; a quick (inf

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dale> The desire is to create a distribution that installs in the > Dale> smallest disk space possible. I saw that requirement as bein

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
g our differences on this issue. I, of course, agree with the above statement ;-) Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Roa

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
er" and should thus be "cosmetic", but the word inplies too little concern...maybe a catagory between cosmetic and critical? > > -- > "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! It is a > dangerous servant and a terrible master." George Washin

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-05-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 1 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> While I agree with much of what you say about the need for > Dale> policy to be clear, I will continue to urge caution when being > Dale

Re: How to fix a broken postrm in upcoming releases

1998-05-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
re release, the needs of each of the previous releases can be declared. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 110

Re: Bug#19797: libc6-dev: use of /tmp/*$$ in an insecure fashion

1998-06-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
;Description:/,/^>[A-Za-z-]*:/s;$DESCRIPTION_C;; > /^>How-To-Repeat:/,/^>[A-Za-z-]*:/s;$HOW_TO_REPEAT_C;; > /^>Fix:/,/^>[A-Za-z-]*:/s;$FIX_C;; > -" $TEMP > $TEMP.x > +" $TEMP > $TEMPX > > -if $MAIL_AGENT < $TEMP.x; then > +if $MAIL_AGENT &

Re: Bug#23512: timezones: tzconfig is undocumented

1998-06-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
ges that have a dangling link attatched to them! A minimal man page that says "this space temporarily left blank" would be far preferable to the current setup. I am not on the policy list, so please keep me on the CC list. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian L

Re: Bug#23512: timezones: tzconfig is undocumented

1998-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
ackage installed, and that I do NOT have undocumented.7.gz anywhere useful on my system. > But that's an issue separate from this bug report, which should stay > open or be marked as forwarded. > Agreed, although forwarding it will do little good. tzconfig is a Debian

Re: Bug#19797: libc6-dev: use of /tmp/*$$ in an insecure fashion

1998-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
that this means we should work toward gaining some acceptence of the need for secure tmp files in the broader Linux community, and a "standard" way of securing this process? Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Sche

Re: Bug#23512: timezones: tzconfig is undocumented

1998-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
far enough down a chain of "unknown" path to be "out of the way". This is starting to look more like an installation nit. I will see if it goes away on reboot. (I hate rebooting for no good reason ;-) Thanks for the insights, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian

Re: Bug#23512: timezones: tzconfig is undocumented

1998-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: > > After installing the manpages package again, locate still did not find the > > man pages that actually did install. Does locate use a cache of some sort? > > Shouldn't the manpage inst

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Dale Scheetz
er comments I have heard it seems that the list should first figure out how to maintain the document so we can all gain from the work you are doing. A committee to "maintain" the package would be fine, but that suggests another policy change ;-) Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Autho

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
7; just hasspecial sort > semantics in that it sort lower than anything (even lower than > nothing) > > I like that ;-) > I like this too, as it resolves the only problem with my last proposal, in that it makes "reasonable" source tarball version numbers. Thanks

Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-29 Thread Dale Scheetz
some time "doing the filing" correctly the task becomes possible and the end user and the maintainer both benefit. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 65

Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 29 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rob> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What I am requesting is that the submitter of a bug take some time, in > >&g

Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 30 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> On 29 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >> Umm, no. It would be nice if they did it, but a novce user is > >> perfectly

Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

1998-06-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 30 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> I never said "demand" anything. I am talking about "higher > Dale> education" for users, not binding them

bug #23953 ae: postinst does not check for errors

1998-07-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
ut I think policy should reflect the reason set -e is used, and when it is counter productive, its use should not be required. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9

Re: bug #23953 ae: postinst does not check for errors

1998-07-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
severity 23953 wishlist quit On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Herbert Xu wrote: > reopen 23953 > quit > > On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 07:54:26PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > > The function of these scripts is to conditionally install ae as "EDITOR" > > using altern

Re: bug #23953 ae: postinst does not check for errors

1998-07-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 07:54:26PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > &g

Re: bug #23953 ae: postinst does not check for errors

1998-07-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 17 Jul 1998, James Troup wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > If update-alternatives fails, the install should *not* succeed. > > > > And why not? The update-alternatives failure does not impact the > > further correct instal

Re: bug #23953 ae: postinst does not check for errors

1998-07-20 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 19 Jul 1998, James Troup wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The problem isn't in the postinst (I know neither of them use set > > -e) but in the preinst script. > > Say what? update-alternatives is called in the *postinst*, and it'

Re: A proposal to revive the Policy document

1998-08-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
ld MacDonald had a farm," > said the Iowan. "CORRECT!" shouts the quizmaster. "Now for $100,000, > spell 'farm.'" "Easy," said the Iowan. "E-I-E-I-O." > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/