eed to interact with the user
doing the installation. At this point, we should be "liberal in what we
accept", I think.
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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>> The kernel team has made their level of commitment
>> clear, as is proper. Indeed, I don't expect the kernel team to support
>> either non-debian sources, nor _any
On Sun, Apr 11 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 11:12 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 11 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:13:15AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
On Sun, Apr 11 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:13:15AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, I use nvidia non-free drivers as well. I can affirm
>> that I can pull from stable, or Linus' tree, and build kernel images
>&g
pend-to-version=-$ev modules_image
`
Once you have your variant of .compile_command, building kernels
and nvidia packages is painless :-)
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> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 20:13 -0800, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a duplicate of Bug#568823, already reported by the OP,
>> and already tagged pending. Secondly, none of these bugs actually exist
&g
be a bit less hair trigger about assigning bugs to k-p?
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ongoing support for >= 12.001 < 12.018 generated images is not
important enough to spend more time on this.
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to get the right
> version won't work, since we might install kernel images built with
> different versions of kernel-package).
>
> Would this work?
I hope so. In any case, kernel-package is getting behind this
proposal.
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kpkg-image-conf, and have all kernel-package image packages Recommend
the virtual package. This way, the user will not be impacted by the
inability of the initramfs-tools package's conffile
brewed scripts now.
Reassigning to linux-2.6, which ought to be the right palce.
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thanks
Hi,
The following change has been committed for this bug by
Manoj Srivastava on Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:02:20 -0500.
The fix will be in the next upload.
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, then so be it. But _that_
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On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
>>> (i.e. is there any reason to _add_ support for it in deb-pkg or in
>>> whatever the kernel team is planning)?
>>
>> I think so. If we do sta
g packages, here.
>> linux-2.6 make deb-pkg should have it's postinst fixed and should work
>> standalone that is the main point and greatest bonus.
>
> I don't understand what you're saying here. I actually _like_ the simple
> hook script mechanism of deb-pkg a
gt; kernel-package?
>
> don't use k-p, known broken.
Bullshit.
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> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I think this is best held on -devel, since a wider audience will
>> benefit from this.
>
> I've replied to d-kernel, but thanks for this "heads up" to d-devel.
> If there is s
ript
not to trigger for some image packages and not others?
Traditionally, you passed --initrd to make-kpkg to trigger the
call to initrd; but now that we are thinking of different drivers than
make-kpkg, how is this information stored and sent to the script?
I think tha
e responsible for creating/updating symlinks, although that's
> always a tough one as you might want symlinks updated for official
> kernels but not for custom built ones (or use different symlinks for
> custom kernels); the suggested "source" envvar could help there
> - provide a shell library file with functions to implement some of the
> ideas mentioned above
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> On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:14:49AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a heads up for a major change in kernel-package, the
>> tool to create user packaged kernel images and headers; which will
>&g
rove robustness.
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Fixed version in Incoming now. (Bastian: turnaround time: 18
hours from bug report). many thanks to Niko Tyni for the details.
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n any changelog or NEWS I searched.
> Is this a kernel-package bug?
Unlikely. kernel-package always runs the sed substitutions in
order.
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that Joerg's time should
> be spent that way, TBH -- but that not up to me :)
Indeed. Maintainers should be doing this on their own. And, if
there is a mistake, they should be willing to correct it when it is
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> On Wed, 02 May 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 May 2007 23:18:28 +0200, maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>
>> > heya manoj, you didn't res
anged?
> On Wed, 02 May 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 May 2007 10:11:11 +0200, maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>
>> > the default one unless other specified.
>>
>> Which generator is the default one? Right now, w
arts.
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the kernel image packages, even if there is some duplication on disk
of these small examples, at least while the transition is still going
on.
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links; the seconf one follows every link in
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of course, k-p is to blame, and must be removed from the build
process.
Why do I even bother?
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It is not at all apparent to me that kernel-package is as
buggy as it would appear from the tone above. For example, what is
the current problem with k-p, in your view?
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:28:27 +0100, maximilian attems
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:02:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Umm, this bug has nothing to do with kernel-package, as far as I
>> can tell. The control file that k-p uses has the co
itself.
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his is not true. Your kernel-img.conf has an inpact --
kernel-img.conf is looked at upon installation, not at build time.
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:26:57 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Sven Luther wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>> What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug
>>> report number I can
about 30% at worst.
> - build target needs 30 minutes on ppc.
> - binary-arch target needs another 30 minutes. My own routine
> needs less than 10.
I'd be happy to look at why bits of the build process take
longer than a raw build without make-kpkg -- which bug
zation of my stance.
> In my understanding kernel-package is intended as a _generic_ tool
> for Debian-packaging a Linux kernel, officially built or not. No use
> is favored, official or not.
This is indeed my stance.
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riding
bits and pieces, and I am not surprised when things do not work as
you try to force them to.
Even then, I would respond to bug reports which show
misbehavior by kernel-package -- which have not exactly been
forthcoming, have they?
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tired of people trying to bend
oks where other packages and users can add tasks to be run
at the appropriate stage of the install. There is no way kernel
package can keep track of all the different things that need to be
done, and remain current as the requirements and interfaces evolve.
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:03:59 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:05:57PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Can you spell out for us which kernel modules, in the opinion of
>> the kernel team, are certainly sourceless GPL stuff? Please
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:16:04 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:42:41AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:17:56 +0200, Sven Luther
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 a
discussion and
voting period applies, unless the DPL intervenes, of course.
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Also, what version of kernel-package was used?
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ses. At high priority it would default to the last installed
> kernel, as is done right now. (but which has a flip-flop
> undeterministic behaviour in case 2.6.17 and 2.6.16 are both
> installed and upgraded since both are present in the archive right
> now).
Sounds good.
if the postinst_hook
script was executable -- and did not do a path search.
> Other than this, the plan sounds ok.
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 02:16:59 +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * Manoj Srivastava [Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:25:05 -0500]:
>> > 6) debconf note
>> > a preinst warning of the update.
>> Not a note. A question asked, and action taken based on the answer.
since a buggy mkinitramfs may leave a machine
unbootable.
> 6) debconf note
> a preinst warning of the update.
Not a note. A question asked, and action taken based on the
answer.
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Template: =ST-image-=V/preinst/bootloader-initrd-=V
Template: =ST-image-=V/preinst/lilo-initrd-=V
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ecord of the debconf interaction while the
installation was occurring?
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> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The description is fine for header packages and source
>> packages that are produced by kernel-package itself. However,
>> official header and source packages are incomplete,
eeded, and therefore cannot provide a better text.
> If this bug report leads to a discussion after which I know better
> how to do it, I offer to write a patch. But maybe you already have
> something prepared, or it can be copied from somewhere?
I think you ran into a broken he
Hi,
lessdisks-terminal should not muck with /etc/kernel-img.conf,
it should be dumping things in /etc/kernel/post{inst,rn}.d/
directories.
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]; then
if [ -L "/boot/$kernelName" ]; then
@@ -820,7 +820,7 @@
currentOpt=
initrd=
- echo "Found kernel: $kernel"
+ echo "Found kernel: $kernel" >&2
write_kernel_entry "$kernelVersion" "" "" "$grub_root_device" \
"$kernel" "$currentOpt" "" "$initrd" "false"
@@ -830,7 +830,7 @@
echo $end >> $buffer
-echo -n "Updating $menu ... "
+echo -n "Updating $menu ... " >&2
# Insert the new options into the menu
if ! grep -q "^$start" $menu ; then
cat $buffer >> $menu
@@ -845,5 +845,5 @@
cat $menu.new > $menu
rm -f $buffer $menu.new
fi
-echo "done"
-echo
+echo "done" >&2
+echo >&2
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both debconf and
non debconf installation, is problematic. Even if we knew which boot
loader is in use, which is not easy (I have lilo and grub installed
on a bunch of machines).
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On 13 Apr 2006, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:28:56AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> That is stretching it. The third component of a version is
>> hardly a "major" revision.
>
> Why?
Component in a version are major.minor.sub. Now,
s.
>
> I think it could be easily argued that the last three major
> revisions of the kernel or 2.6.16, 2.6.15, and 2.6.14.
That is stretching it. The third component of a version is
hardly a "major" revision.
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On 13 Apr 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Apr 13, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Hmm, it is true I did not check the postinst; I just saw that error
>> message _after_ I had gotten initramfs to install by hacking
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramf
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Ask the human.
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On 9 Apr 2006, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> * Manoj Srivastava [Sun, Apr 09 2006, 01:54:03AM]:
>
>>> And there are additional targets that m-a-infected rules file
>>> provide, used to predict the file location and debug the build
>>> environment.
>&
On 12 Apr 2006, Marco d'Itri stated:
> reassign 362064 initramfs-tools
> thanks
>
> On Apr 12, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why is udev trying to write to a working boot mechanism
>> without asking?
> Why do you believe that udev crea
On 8 Apr 2006, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>> include
> * Manoj Srivastava [Sat, Apr 08 2006, 09:14:14AM]:
>> On 6 Apr 2006, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>>
>>>> include
>>> * Sven Luther [Thu, Apr 06 2006, 08:09:46AM]:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 09:
e the same
> command line interface introduced by Manoj and slightly refined.
What was the slight refinement?
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thanks
On 26 Mar 2006, maximilian attems wrote:
> severity 358397 important
> stop
>
> hello Manoj,
>
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>> The package fails to install (failure to check if the image is
>> modifiable), is t
Yes, it is indeed created by yaird. I had tried an initramfs
tools created ramdisk, but that failed with cryptsetup, so I went
back and ued yaird to recreate q woeking ramdisk.
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1.2.4-1small statically-linked utilities
ii udev 0.087-2/dev/ and hotplug management daemo
initramfs-tools recommends no packages.
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make inclusion in kernel-package faster.
Thanks,
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:20:57 +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:12:14AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Why? Anyone who wants to use the headers provided by the headers
>> package must sent an env var, anyway, so why not just set
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:16:54 +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:49:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Err, this is additional complexity, and for what benefit? I still
>> have seen nothing that explains what we gain from the head
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:49:33 +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> CCing the release team, since this has impact on the releasability
> of etch.
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:00:57PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> The build directory "just works" in
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