Re: Bug#345977: ITP: polld -- Polling demon

2006-01-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Nathan Poznick wrote: > Thus spake Roger Leigh: >> What is the problem this is trying to solve? >> >> If the partition table is being changed, the tool that changed it >> should issue a BLKRRPART ioctl, like fdisk does for example (see >> ). > > I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slo

documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. Is there any preference on which type should be included in the -dev package? I would prefer PDF: * one file only * easy to print * many viewers available I wou

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 12:36 schrieb Daniel Leidert: > Am Freitag, den 10.02.2006, 12:09 +0100 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > > I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML > > and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. > > > >

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 13:36 schrieb Neil Roeth: > On Feb 10, Hendrik Sattler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML > > and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. >

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 13:54 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > This has been discussed a long time ago and there is a policy decided. > > >From the Policy Manual: > >         12.4 Preferred documentation formats >         >         The unification of Debian documentation is being carried out via >  

Re: documentation types

2006-02-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 10:04 schrieb Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:54:09PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Thus the thing to do is to provide HTML. > > I disagree, the thing to do is to provide HTML *and* an easy to print > format, that is PS or PDF. > > > I

Re: documentation types

2006-02-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 00:57 schrieb Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: > > It would be great to have a new debhelper package that creates the > > previously chosen documentation formats from the provided SGML file on > > installation. > > Debhelper? You are aware that debhelper is used on packa

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:08 schrieb Arthur de Jong: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Come on, please stop arguing with random, unsuited comparisons, and use > > common sense : what's the purpose of ndiswrapper without non-free > > drivers to use it on? We've always put thi

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:43 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:37 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > > Maybe Debian should take one or two steps back to the point where it > > only requires source for something that can actually be compiled with &

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 20. Februar 2006 11:11 schrieb Jérôme Warnier: > [..] > > > Ndiswrapper probably is better compared to such drivers than to wine > > or dosemu. > > I'm sorry, but Wine and Dosemu can run free softwares (respectively for > Windows and DOS), so they are not unuseful without proprietary > s

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2006 12:52 schrieb Anthony Towns: > Anyway, despite it's acronym, I'd put Wine under the same heading as > emulators. Wine reads a different binary format than elf and also provides the libs in the other format. Is the linux kernel on sparc an emulator if it can run sola

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 10:16 schrieb Stephen Birch: > Miles Bader([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2006-02-23 17:41: > > Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed > > > distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate > > > >

Re: Problem regarding modules.dep

2006-02-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 14:34 schrieb conn itnel: > I am a student and according to my academic project requirement.. I need > to cross compile the kernel on P4 (PC HOST) for i386 (TARGET). Now the PC > Host and Target contains the same debian 3.1r1 sarge. I successfully > crosscompil

Re: Is there some guideline saying that native packages should be avoided?

2006-02-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 21:26 schrieb Henning Makholm: > Further, providing an .orig.tar.gz without the debian/ directory helps > prevent confusion for users on non-Debian systems. So the same reason for not including a .spec file (for creating RPM packages). On the other side, some user may

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 01:28 schrieb Miriam Ruiz: >  bcpp indents C/C++ source programs, replacing tabs with spaces or the >  reverse. Yet another program that does this wrong? Indentation levels should be represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments) should be done by s

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 08:05 schrieb Miles Bader: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments) > > should be done by spaces. > > Gains: shows fine in _every_ editor, no need to set tab-width. &g

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 10:59 schrieb Miles Bader: > If you attempted to view such code using an application which uses the > standard tab size of 8 -- e.g., more or less in a terminal -- blocks > would end up being indented by _16 spaces per block level_, which is > (pardon my french) pretty fucki

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 11:39 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > 8bit tab width s/8bit/8 spaces/ me is confused HS pgpWd6uTc4ZU0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 03:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and > > configure standards, and --host does not "signal that you're > > cross-compiling." What signals that you are cross

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 20:17 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > Or do you want to do this to avoid an ifeq..endif block in debian/rules > files that are currently required to detect if --host should be issued to > configure ? Personally just because I don't like the currently different na

Re: white listing spam en/on debian devel

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 19:51 schrieb Jason Clinton: > Por favor, quiero que paré mandando mensajes para confirmação a los > gentes que estan mandando a la lista. > - > Hi, > > Please, I would appreciate it if you would stop

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 22:26 schrieb Peter Kourzanov: > ship with symbolic links, e.g. > > >gcc -> gcc-4.0 -> i686-linux-gcc-4.0 > >   > > Which it already does:-) The other direction but your are right :) I looked for i686-linux-gcc when in fact it is i486-linux-gcc. HS -- Mein GPG-Key is

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:32 schrieb Steve Langasek: > Um, the native target for Debian systems is i486-linux-gnu, not > i686-linux-gnu -- the symlink i486-linux-gnu-gcc-4.0 *does* exist. If > you're using anything other than i486-linux-gnu as your host string for a > Debian package, then asi

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 28 Juli 2006 20:42 schrieb Katrina Jackson: > For example, why not have the package updater installed for > those who specifically want to install the desktop environment? You still only see you way of using computers. In environments with an administrator, e.g. a pool room, you probab

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-07-31 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 31 Juli 2006 17:08 schrieb Frank Küster: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > >>> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped > >>> D

huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, I tried to take a look at the wnpp bug page but neither Konqueror nor Firefox were able to handle it on my system. 3182462 bytes for the HTML code of a single web page is a bit much, isn't it? So I was just wondering if it is really necessary to show 3500 resolved issues by default? They c

Re: huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 04 August 2006 13:49 schrieb Ben Armstrong: > Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > I hope that something can be done about this to make the BTS web pages > > more usable. > > Are you perhaps not aware of the much smaller indices into the BTS here? > > http://www.deb

Re: huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, Am Freitag 04 August 2006 13:39 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: > > I tried to take a look at the wnpp bug page but neither Konqueror > > nor Firefox were able to handle it on my system. > > Really? Galeon handles it fine, as does Firefox (the latter on win32). Really. Firefox gets very slow, ko

Re: A new debhelper program required?

2006-08-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, Am Samstag 05 August 2006 22:36 schrieb Shachar Shemesh: [...] > and I ended up manually creating the symbolic link from > /usr/lib/thunderbird/extensions/{guid} to > /usr/share/lib/thunderbird/extensions/{guid}. [...] > 1. Should I have solved the problem differently? Perhaps creating a dual

Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 08 August 2006 09:28 schrieb Alejandro Rios P.: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Alejandro Rios P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: libming-fonts-openoffice > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : OpenOffice.org > * URL : http://www.openoff

Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 08 August 2006 14:47 schrieb Stuart Anderson: > Yes, the packages I have prepared are built as part of the rest of the > ming package. The ming source package Build-depends on the package that > contains the TTF fonts that will be converted into a libming font package. > Upstream ming (

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 21:50 schrieb Michael Rasmussen: > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools [...] > 3) Would it be ok if I converted it to use autotools my self? Do you plan to support other system than linux in a fork? If no, there is absolutely no gain in us

autotools and programming style (was: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 23:27 schrieb Steve Greenland: > On 14-Aug-06, 15:59 (CDT), Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > In the case of autotools, the fact is that usually it's configure.ac or > > > Makefile.am being horribly broken, rather than the autotools.

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 14 August 2006 23:10 schrieb Bernd Schubert: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > If used properly, autotools usually do their job; and pretty well, too. > > Just have a look here http://lwn.net/Articles/188693 KDE never used the autotools properly (I'd rather call it hacking into it), probably

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 10 August 2006 23:56 schrieb Roger Leigh: > The inetd daemon installed by default: > etch: openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd Note: etch beta 3 show me a dpkg status of "ic" for netkit-inetd after a fresh installation. openbsd-inetd is installed. Where does this come from? The de

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 22:57 schrieb Otavio Salvador: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling > > local mail will probably be rejected? > > I guess you meant nullmai

Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 18 August 2006 23:25 schrieb Michael Rasmussen: > I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc > does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. No, %m is, according to printf(2) manpage: m (Glibc extension.) Print output of strerror(errno).

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 19 August 2006 15:25 schrieb Marc Haber: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:21:22 +0200, Hendrik Sattler > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling > > local mail will probably be rejected? > &

Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 19 August 2006 17:28 schrieb Steve Greenland: > On 18-Aug-06, 16:48 (CDT), Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, %m is, according to printf(2) manpage: > > m (Glibc extension.) Print output of strerror(errno). No argument > > is req

Re: Debian ISOs

2006-08-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 23 August 2006 12:41 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le mercredi 23 août 2006 à 11:30 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > > I have a few doubts about the knowledge of the average user for > > Bittorrent. For sure, having BitTorrent helps reducing the load > > because all users that have so

Re: Bug#384474: ITP: weplab -- tool designed to break WEP keys

2006-08-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 24 August 2006 16:31 schrieb Adam Cécile: > Description : tool designed to break WEP keys It is legal to ship a tool like that in all countries? Same question goes for airsnort, I guess. HS

Re: Bug#384496: ITP: luafilesystem -- filesystem library to the lua language

2006-08-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 24 August 2006 19:19 schrieb Enrico Tassi: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Enrico Tassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: luaexpat Somehow, that doesn't match the rest. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 25 August 2006 12:54 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > Given that a kernel image these days takes up about 50M already I guess that those that care for the smallest possible base system (and those that hate initrd/initramfs) have their own kernel. My one (for a laptop) has an installed size

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso: > No support for: (The * are critical) > > * SATA Hard Drives (*) > * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*) This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of userland would not fit this hardware, so who cares. > * IPW3945 w

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 21:34 schrieb Matthew R. Dempsky: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Additionally, Ubuntu is not more usable for wireless networks than > > Debian: the network configuration only support the useless WEP, no WPA. > >

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 23:03 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez: > On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 22:00 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > > Not in my experience. I've handled all network details through > > > Network Manager on this laptop. > > > > AFAIK, no released v

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 07:05 schrieb Theodore Tso: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > - installer did not read in the CDs for package lists and the GUI does > > not even support this (or for any other means of modifying > > /etc/apt/sour

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 23:30 schrieb Knut Yrvin: > A list of version numbers on important software packages on the test > version of Debian-edu/Skolelinux (The Kubuntu Dapper version number in > parenthesis): > > - Kernel 2.16.2  (2.6.15) That cannot be correct. HS

Bug#385609: ITP: obexfs -- mount filesystem of ObexFTP capabable devices

2006-09-01 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: obexfs Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : Christian W. Zuckschwerdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://openobex.sf.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C

Re: Bug#385887: ITP: daemonize -- run a command as a Unix daemon

2006-09-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 03 September 2006 21:35 schrieb Stanley Jaddoe: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Stanley Jaddoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: daemonize > Version : 1.5 > Upstream Author : Brian M. Clapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.clapper

Re: Extended partition creation policy ?

2006-09-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 07 September 2006 14:14 schrieb David Balazic: > The issue is, that this extended partition has the size of the logical > partition and not the maximum possible size (the entire empty disk space > plus the logical parition). > > This layout seems to be special to debian, since all oth

Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lraw1394

2006-09-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 12 September 2006 12:28 schrieb Martin Michlmayr: > A number of packages (at least three, but possibly more) fail to build > with the error: > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lraw1394 > Can someone investigate why this is the case. I've put built logs > (mbox file) at http://people.debia

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 12 September 2006 22:29 schrieb Moritz Muehlenhoff: > Marc Haber wrote: > >>I know I am in for an argument, but I think it is a good > >>question. I'm sure many of you have read Mark's blog: > >>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56. It says 76% of Debian > >>users run unsta

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 12:30 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > Since X.org requires discover Huh? Did I miss something? X.org runs fine without discover installed. Actually, uninstalling discover is the first thing I do after an installation of the base system. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 17:27 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > If I update 600 Sarge systems to Etch, they would currently install > discover as a depends. No, it is only a recommends: Depends: xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-input-all | xserver-xorg-i

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 22:52 schrieb Florian Weimer: > aptitude > automatically installs packages recommended by new packages). This can be turned off either via the GUI, via entry in the config file or even from command line with -R. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: 2.4 vs. 2.6 (was: Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?)

2006-09-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 12:28 schrieb Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe: > However, as long > as I can easily freeze my machine just by doing really simple disk-I/O > tasks (which just happened when I had a need to boot into a Knoppix), > I will definitely not consider it to run on my servers. A good h

Re: Bug#387923: ITP: bluez-gnome -- bluetooth passkey (PIN) agent for GNOME

2006-09-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 17 September 2006 14:39 schrieb Filippo Giunchedi: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Filippo Giunchedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: bluez-gnome > Version : 0.4 > Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://blue

Re: Common handling of browser plugins?

2006-09-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 18 September 2006 11:00 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: > (3) Another thing in which all those packages differ is the > recommendation and suggestion of compatible browsers: > > flashplugin-nonfree suggests: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.1) | > mozilla-firefox | firefox > > totem-mozilla 

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

2006-09-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 19 September 2006 04:01 schrieb Miles Bader: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It is also clear that this is how many maintainers have understood it, > > because as you yourself have noticed, there are many packages that > > assume they can ship directories in /var/run an

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

2006-09-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 19 September 2006 20:25 schrieb Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which OS combination does not define int to be 32bit on a 64bit > > architecture? > > This is mainly compiler-, not primarily OS-dependent. An

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 21 September 2006 23:58 schrieb Amaya: > I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom > issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, > probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and > maybe, as you own this hardw

Re: Problem including (linux-kernel-headers 2.6.17)

2006-09-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 21 September 2006 20:09 schrieb Martin Kittel: > In file included from /usr/include/asm-x86_64/vsyscall.h:4, >                  from /usr/include/asm/vsyscall.h:8, >                  from /usr/include/asm-x86_64/timex.h:11, >                  from /usr/include/asm/timex.h:8, >        

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 22 September 2006 13:21 schrieb Andreas Tille: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > I've heard these claims (ÿÿplayer X should be more than good enough, what > > do you need mplayer for these days?ÿÿ) for at least the last five years > > -- it's a difficult claim to ref

Re: Problem including (linux-kernel-headers 2.6.17)

2006-09-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 22 September 2006 19:54 schrieb Martin Kittel: > So this brings me back to me original problem: are user-space > applications allowed/supposed to use these headers? And if so, how are > they to be used if the headers rely on __KERNEL__ to be defined? Did you try to comment out those inc

Re: Media players in Debian

2006-09-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 25 September 2006 14:27 schrieb Johan Kullstam: > You can have mplayer installed without it necessarily showing up for > popcon. Or you don't have it installed and don't participate in popcon. popcon does not show representative values but everybody knows that. HS pgpYUyzPOfd9b.pgp De

Re: Bug#388278: ITP: doc-debian-uk -- Debian Manuals and other documents in Ukrainian

2006-09-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 24 September 2006 21:00 schrieb Ron Johnson: > Ah, it looks like we've got a grandfathered exception. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gb > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ua > > Based on ISO_3166, it appears that Ukranian i18n files should either

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 28 September 2006 21:14 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > Note that Requires.private is used for cflags since the last version > of pkg-config. Interesting but maybe documenting Requires.private would be a good idea? Hint: the manpage only mentions Libs.private, see #341977 #346602. And 9 month

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 03 Oktober 2006 16:26 schrieb Michal Čihař: > if you use > aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you > don't have to guess. Only if you also installed the package-to-remove with aptitude. HS

local copies of libs

2006-10-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, since I often see that packages keep local copies of libs and use those, I kind of want to object to arguments for such build behaviour. The latest one I found is xmms-wma: it uses a local stripped-down copy of ffmpeg's libavcodec and libavformat. The given reasons are pretty much always t

Re: local copies of libs

2006-10-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 05 Oktober 2006 16:10 schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: > You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > HS> since I often see that packages keep local copies of libs and use > HS> those, I kind of want to object to arguments for such build > HS> behaviour. > > Do you mean debian packages or upstream o

Re: local copies of libs

2006-10-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 05 Oktober 2006 18:01 schrieb Moritz Muehlenhoff: > libavcodec had several vulnerabilities and without doubt it'll have more in > the next 30 months after Etch release. So it's absolutely necessary to > link dynamically. (Many do already, e.g. xine-lib). > I'll file RC bugs for any pa

Re: Making SELinux standard for etch

2006-10-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 07 Oktober 2006 00:35 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > We are at a point where we can support a targeted SELinux >  policy, at least in permissive mode.  Everything seems to work for >  me; I can fire up targeted SELinux UML's and only see a few harmless >  log messages. What do those look

Re: anticipating the upstart migration

2006-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 18:40 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva: > Em Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:25:57 +0200 > > Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > "sysvinit only" -> "sysvinit + upstart" (using > > > alternatives/diversions) > > > > No offense, but I wouldn't trust the alternatives syst

Re: anticipating the upstart migration

2006-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 21:09 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva: > Em Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:56:39 +0200 > > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to > > > the /sbin/init alternative,

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:26 schrieb Marc Haber: > "how to reconfigure exim4" is one of the most frequently asked > questions on #debian. > > The reason is that dpkg-reconfigure exim4 is a no-op since exim4 is a > metapackage pulling in the "real" packages exim4, exim4-base, > exim4-daemon-ligh

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 08 Oktober 2006 22:58 schrieb James Westby: > The default level when doing dpkg-reconfigure is low, so that it wont be > seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they > will be directed to the correct package. The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure ma

Re: Removing obexserver (Re: RFA: obexserver -- Receive files with OBEX protocol)

2006-10-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:06 schrieb Luca Capello: > As the maintainer agrees, we should ask for remotion of obexserver The bug for removal is already filed: #392447 > (and successively libopenobex-1.0-0, cc:ing its maintainer) We'll see if it goes automatically. It should as the source p

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:10 schrieb Mario Iseli: > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they > logi

Re: Removing obexserver (Re: RFA: obexserver -- Receive files with OBEX protocol)

2006-10-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:21 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > > (and successively libopenobex-1.0-0, cc:ing its maintainer) > > We'll see if it goes automatically. It should as the source package does > not exist anymore. Well, it does still exist. If it does not go automa

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 13 Oktober 2006 17:18 schrieb John Goerzen: > This has been bugging me for some time now, and I'd like to see if we > can improve the situation. > > The main problem is that it's not clear how all this media > autodection/automounting works. It's not clear how to enable it, it's > not c

Re: Lack of transparency of automatic actions

2006-10-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 16 Oktober 2006 11:34 schrieb Frank Küster: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Even worse, you again have to use KDE or Gnome to take advantage of > >> network-manager. Why are we leaving CLI users out in the cold? > > > > Good qu

Re: gdm/Gnome/KDE and device permissions

2006-10-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 17 Oktober 2006 13:50 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > By updating /etc/pam.d/common-auth and /etc/security/group.conf it is > possible to add the logged in user to the grous needed (audio, > floppy, cdrom, plugdev, video). In addition to getting access to > the devices present d

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

2006-10-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 21 Oktober 2006 11:49 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: > Question is - does Debian i386 currently support running on 64-bit binaries > if hardware supports it? _and_ if the kernel supports it. > Linux blacky 2.6.18-1-k7 #1 SMP Fri Sep 29 17:06:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux -k7 is for Athlo

Re: Bug#394566: ITP: conkeror -- completely keyboard driven Gecko based web browser

2006-10-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 21 Oktober 2006 23:44 schrieb Axel Beckert: > * Package name    : conkeror Is the misleading name (sounds too much like "konqueror") chosen intentionally? HS pgpQfxNBEMKqF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 28 Oktober 2006 20:30 schrieb David Nusinow: > For etch+1, I'm planning on making it enabled by default and doing away > with most of the debconf stuff anyway though. AFAIK this can be very bad when looking at performance and CPU usage, doesn't it? In this case, it should be only be en

Re: Is something wrong to XGL, Compiz, Cgwd be packaged?

2006-10-29 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 29 Oktober 2006 17:19 schrieb Frans Pop: > On Sunday 29 October 2006 14:14, David Nusinow wrote: > > [0] I'd love some feedback from KDE people on this. I'll sit down and > > poke around the kwin code a bit to see how it works if I have the time. > > In that case wouldn't a mail to debia

Re: Bug#396618: ITP: dns-flood-detector -- DNS Flood Detector was developed to detect abusive usage levels on high traffic nameservers and to enable quick response in halting the use of one's nameserv

2006-11-02 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 02 November 2006 09:43 schrieb Jan Wagner: > Hi Andrea, > > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 23:03, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > Jan Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Description : DNS Flood Detector was developed to detect abusive > > > usage levels on high traffic nameserver

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 18 November 2006 19:42 schrieb George Danchev: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Friday 17 November 2006 15:22, George Danchev wrote: > > > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao > > > ?) * `dvd-burner' -- could be provid

Re: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)?

2006-11-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 21 November 2006 21:48 schrieb Martin Zobel-Helas: > gpg --recv-keys A70DAF536070D3A1 && (gpg --export -a A70DAF536070D3A1 | > apt-key add -) Please put that in the apt-key manpage (maybe even the long version to use debian-archive-keyring exclusively). But that was only the secondar

Re: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)?

2006-11-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 21 November 2006 23:52 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 04:50:29PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Martin Zobel-Helas] > > > > > gpg --recv-keys A70DAF536070D3A1 && (gpg --export -a A70DAF536070D3A1 | > > > apt-key add -) > > > > Uh, don't forget the part about verifyin

Re: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)?

2006-11-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 22 November 2006 11:05 schrieb Hamish Moffatt: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 09:48:46AM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Or even better: > > # gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --check-sigs > > A70DAF536070D3A1 > > > > I just assum

Re: RFH: linux-2.6 patch needs tester

2006-11-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 23 November 2006 07:43 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: > I wrote a patch for the linux-2.6 source top enable 64bit kernels for > i386 as we had in sarge. I've tested the patch on amd64 and i386 so I > know native builds will work. You wrote in #379090: "Without that flag the build trie

Re: Bash /dev/tcp and /dev/udp

2006-11-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 23 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Ron Johnson: > What's the real problem with /dev/{tcp|udp}? # ls /dev/udp /dev/tcp ls: /dev/udp: No such file or directory ls: /dev/tcp: No such file or directory The chosen method of integration is practical non-sense. What happens if /dev/tcp is pres

Re: Question about "Depends: bash"

2006-11-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 25 November 2006 22:57 schrieb Jari Aalto: > > I do not know a singel person which open 20 xterms with bash at the > > same time. On my IBM i have normaly 4-6 XTerms open, mozilla and gaim. > > Try developing 10 software packages simultaneously (you leave the > session open and come bac

Re: Conditionally applying an architecture-dependent patch

2006-11-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 27 November 2006 22:46 schrieb Shaun Jackman: > When using CDBS, what is the best way to conditionally apply an > architecture-dependent patch. I'm using CDBS, but not yet using a > patch system such as simple-patchsys, dpatch, or quilt, so > recommendations of a patch system are welcome.

Re: Ondemand governor by default in etch

2006-12-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 07 Dezember 2006 16:36 schrieb John Goerzen: > I believe that we should enable CPU frequency scaling, and the ondemand > governer, by default in etch. Did you read the kernel help for it?: "The support for this governor depends on CPU capability to do fast frequency switching (i.e,

Re: Bug#402622: bug still not fixed

2006-12-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 14 Dezember 2006 20:01 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > On Dec 14, Modestas Vainius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2006 m. gruodis 11 d., pirmadienis 20:33, Marco d'Itri raš?: > > > I do not think that every mmc* block device is removable, > > > > What do you think about following pmount polic

Re: Kernel 2.6.17 and 2.6.18-3-K7 network problem

2007-01-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 03 Januar 2007 09:53 schrieb Antonio Laterza: > :( ). If I choose the kernel 2.6.18 X is OK but I am not > > able to reache many sites. I can navigate very few sites > example: www.google.com and www.mozilla.org. Using ethereal > seems that the HTTP request go out (i.e. GET / ) but

Re: Not depending on shlibs because of plugins?

2007-01-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 05 Januar 2007 17:37 schrieb Christoph Berg: > The alternative solution would be to put the plugins into separate > packages and then depend on libyada-mysql | libyada-postgres | > libyada-sqlite. As these packages would merely contain a single file, > that seems bloat to me. Kind of th

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