Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Waters
in there is from upstream's website, except my own note on how I put the pieces together. Do I need to remove that note? That seems like a really bad idea. Anyway, I was upstream project leader for most of the last year, up until about a week ago, when I stepped down in favor of s

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:47:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:39:44 -0800, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I'm not at all sure how this rule would apply, for example, to my > > own pilot-manager_1.107.0pre108.orig.tar.gz. Every

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Waters
hoose is, or should be, irrelevant. I think the tarball I created should be acceptable in any case. I think it's quite clear what I created, and I don't think there's any intent to confuse our users, and I think that should be sufficient. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-25 Thread Chris Waters
t. But I don't actually care enough to write a proposal myself. Unless you guys want to wait until I _happen_ to find enough free time :) -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a s

Intent to Package: gtkpool

1999-09-26 Thread Chris Waters
gtkpool is a simple simulation of the game of pool (i.e. similar to billiards and snooker), written and copyright 1999 by Jacques Fortier, licensed under the GPL. Because Debian *always* needs more games. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or

Re: New virtual package: myspell-dictionary?

2003-07-31 Thread Chris Waters
ting to a proposed virtual package name. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-06 Thread Chris Waters
;t think we can really call it a logo any more. I think we have to start calling it "a random glyph we just happen to have on all of our web pages". But I don't really have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the argument that the presence of an actual logo (or other

Re: Bug#216492: FTBFS (unstable/all) missing build-dep

2003-10-20 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:15:17AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > What needs to happen to get this into policy? The usual - see /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy-process.html (or .txt.gz or .sgml.gz) for details. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EM

ITH (Intent To Hijack) pilot-manager

2001-05-02 Thread Chris Waters
ng that's probably going to come up more and more as more developers become MIA over time. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku

Re: ITH (Intent To Hijack) pilot-manager

2001-05-02 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:36:45PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: > > Just wanted to let people know that I'm going to hijack the > > pilot-manager package. The current maintainer seems to be completely > > MIA; he hasn't upload

Re: ITH (Intent To Hijack) pilot-manager

2001-05-02 Thread Chris Waters
ried. cheers -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
ED]) sed I inspected these packages. Only emacs20 lacked the /usr/share/doc directory. If that ratio holds true (which I doubt), then we've only got 21 packages left to transition! :-) cheers -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EM

menu and FHS (was Re: Finishing the FHS transition)

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
ant exceptions for files that would cause breakage if they actually were shared between different machines. cheers -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: > > Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field > > is not a reliable indication of much of anything. I strongly object > Policy says: "P

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:29:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Chris Waters wrote: > > > - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. > > This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. > No, it is supposed to happen one release _afte

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Chris Waters
ish the FHS transition." And I'm not the one who came up with a simple two-step plan which fails to achieve that. Yes, I have been working on the issue. No, I probably can't do it alone. If you don't want to help, that's fine. But when someone who has

Re: Do not link GNOME1 apps with libpng3

2002-01-11 Thread Chris Waters
work, which is what happened to me with the libpng2 transition.) > In the absence of such, leaving imlib1 linked with libpng2 seems to > me to be the wisest course of action, *especially* during a freeze. Very much so, yes. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-07 Thread Chris Waters
do better. I think I'd almost rather switch to Red Hat than use the "Beeblebrox" release. I mean, what's next? Putting pictures of maintainer's pets on the Debian web page? :-) -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Chris Waters
elegant (IMO) than Debian's. I'd vote for a new logo if I thought anyone would listen to me. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-10 Thread Chris Waters
rstand why the KDE team objects to clarifying the KDE license to explicitly allow linking with Qt. Care to elaborate? -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

KDE hurts Qt (was Re: LICENSES)

1998-10-10 Thread Chris Waters
'd want to be sure! (Unless I had deep enough pockets to feel that the risk was worth it.) But then I live in the USA, where people sue at the drop of a hat. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to

Re: Debian logo

1998-10-10 Thread Chris Waters
people are worried that this is all some plot to get rid of him). -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

gnome and gtk--

1998-10-11 Thread Chris Waters
d the two don't seem to work together at this point. I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, b

Re: intent to remove libglide from non-free

1998-10-11 Thread Chris Waters
of volunteers, why we can't do what we do with netscape/staroffice/etc.? Even if we can't distribute it, can't we have a loader package? (No, I'm not volunteering, I don't own a 3dfx card either.) -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-11 Thread Chris Waters
Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: > > I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version > > of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? > Not really possible without hacking Gtk-- (which can be done, but

Intent to package gnome-hack (pending gnome-gtkmm)

1998-10-14 Thread Chris Waters
ussed. In any case, I won't be able to release this until Marcus sorts out the various flavors of gtk--, because I'll need one with gnome support. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-14 Thread Chris Waters
ame doesn't differ. But maybe you don't care I hope I don't care; I'll probably also rename the package and make it conflict with gtkmm just as a quick hack so I don't break my own system. I'll be anxiously awaiting a more official and reliable solution, however.

Re: Intent to package gnome-hack (pending gnome-gtkmm)

1998-10-14 Thread Chris Waters
reason my application hasn't arrived is that I still need to find someone to sign my key, but I live in Silicon Valley, so I expect that won't be difficult. I've already got feelers out. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

libpam, cracklib, and slink (was Re: Release-critical...)

1999-01-20 Thread Chris Waters
b2. Unless someone objects strongly, I'd like to bump #30862 up to important. This is a pretty visible problem IMO. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: agreeing with the DFSG (was Re: non-free --> non-dfsg)

1999-01-21 Thread Chris Waters
work on Debian if they didn't agree with at least the basic outlines of the DFSG and the Social Contract.... cheers -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread Chris Waters
t the ones we have are much better than any of the proposals so far. We *don't* have a reasonable license for the logo. It may not be quite as critical, but I feel it's more urgent at the moment. Debian is a free project to distribute a free OS. It should have a free logo. FREE T

DFSG: list restrictions, not freedoms

1999-01-25 Thread Chris Waters
cluding or excluding) the terms of the BSD license. And we can drop the patch clause if desired. But I think this approach of listing acceptable restrictions on our freedoms is probably the most clear. I think it might help make the DFSG brief and to-the-point. Comments? -- Chris Waters [EMAI

Back to the logo license (semi-formal proposal)

1999-01-28 Thread Chris Waters
the point. Feedback welcomed. Seconds welcomed. I would really like to see if we can avoid drowning in legalese for once. :-) cheers -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp

Call for mascot! :-)

1999-01-28 Thread Chris Waters
e, but perhaps I'm a little crazy. :-) -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: gnuserv/gnuclient problem

1999-01-30 Thread Chris Waters
de xemacs, I can determine that gnuserv-program's plist is (saved-value ((concat exec-directory "/gnuserv"))). When I evaluate that, it says that saved-value's function definition is void. If I execute (concat exec-directory "/gnuserv"), it looks fine. -- Chris Water

Re: Debian coding style?

1999-05-09 Thread Chris Waters
e to the 80 column rule. And if you do find some, you'll probably find an "open source" author who gets a lot of flames from his users. :-) BTW, I loved your analysis of some of the other Corel Guidelines. I nearly fell off my chair at the "passive voice should be avoided"

Re: Install-time byte-compiling: Why bother?

1999-05-09 Thread Chris Waters
proposal to -policy. I *will* support the idea of making byte-compilation optional, even if I don't support eliminating it or defaulting to "off". -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: Here's a diff to my .xsession (was Re: Here's my .xsession)

1999-05-11 Thread Chris Waters
hen wm=$i; break fi done fi if [ -z "$wm" ]; then panic!!! # this line may need some work :-) fi exec $wm -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-12 Thread Chris Waters
e GNOME folks for distribution from ftp.gnome.org. This was, in fact, one of the original motivations for setting up the slink staging area. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net

Re: fixing the wnpp was ITP rx(v)p

1999-05-14 Thread Chris Waters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The wnpp has become exceptionally incorrect and out of date. > What can we do as a group to fix this? One suggestion I just tossed out on IRC is to use the BTS -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or

Re: new file nmu for testing

1999-05-16 Thread Chris Waters
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > properly shows stripped/unstripped (comments from non-x86 people > here please and non-glibc2.1) Did you contact upstream about that flakey "fix" they made that didn't work? See what on earth that was all about? -- Chris Waters

Re: (FINISH) Correct non-US solution

1999-05-17 Thread Chris Waters
tuition here. Ignorance of the law is not a valid legal excuse for doing something. Being earnest, having puppy-eyes, and protesting, "I was only trying to help," doesn't cut the mustard. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or

Re: [ITP/mostly packaged] hftpd

1999-05-18 Thread Chris Waters
e one of the *official* kernel images, I'm all for it; there's no valid excuses for not using make-kpkg that I've ever seen. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

1999-05-20 Thread Chris Waters
the language standard. But C has its own problems, not least of which is that it's a primitive procedural language with no built-in OO features to speak of. And with emphasis on "primitive". I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into a networkable server for

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

1999-05-20 Thread Chris Waters
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:25:17PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > > I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into > &

Re: [ITP/mostly packaged] hftpd

1999-05-20 Thread Chris Waters
don't want to use the packaging system. The argument that people can compile libraries by hand doesn't hold water when it comes to library dependencies, why should it hold for kernel dependencies? It's not like make-kpkg is difficult to use, or limiting in any way. -- Chris Waters

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

1999-05-20 Thread Chris Waters
an? Never mind. I don't care about the rest of you bums, I want those downtrodden grovelling at *my* feet! :-) -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Chris Waters
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > someone (miquel, perhaps) made elvis-tiny a year or two back, and it fit > on the boot disk. would be nice if it could be made to fit again. elvis > isn't as good as vim, but it's much better than ae. Better for the experts who know vi, not as good for

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Chris Waters
ust *fix* ae's most noticable problems? Surely we can do that without doubling its size (ee is more than twice as large). This is an *emergency* editor we're talking about here, not something you'll end up using day after day. It really doesn't need to be perfect, just good en

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Chris Waters
re noticable problems of ae, and *still* come in smaller than ee, there's something wrong with us. I'd volunteer, but I've never had a problem with ae. And I don't know vi well enough to address people's complaints with ae's emulation. But I suppose I could be persuaded

Re: Intent to package: tuxeyes

1999-05-22 Thread Chris Waters
hat KDE does. And we can't distribute it at all. It needs to be licensed like Lyx (GPL with exception for Qt). -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.