On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:47:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > How about this rule of thumb: If you get stuff from the > primary NON DEBIAN distribution site, that is what you call > upstream. What someone unconnected to debian, not using debian > archives, downloads is what we also offer as upstream orig.tar.gz > files.
I think it's more important that our users *know what they're getting* than that we try to enforce some sort of arbitrary distinction between "Debian" and "upstream". Clarity is why I chose "107.0pre108" as a version number. I don't see how it's that much different from our various cvs-snapshot packages, except that in my case, upstream wasn't using any sort of version control at the time I made the package - they just had a loose collection of patches and replacement files available on their website. > Pristine upstream means pristine upstream. Either get your > notes added to upstream website, or put them in the diffs. We don't require "pristine upstream". For example, we remove non-DFSG compliant portions. Many licenses require that changes be documented. So if we modify the upstream source to remove the non-DFSG portions, and _don't document that_ (because of a new policy rule that forbids any debian-authored portions of _orig tarballs), then we may be violating licenses. > Do not prevaricate to our suers by pretending that some material is > the same as they can get upstream, when it is not. I don't think I am - I think it's quite clear that 107.0pre108 is quite different from 107. > > Anyway, I was upstream project leader for most of the > > last year, up until about a week ago, when I stepped down in favor > > of someone more enthusiastic. But I'm still an upstream developer. > That is quite irrelevant. Actually, I agree. I think the fact that I can solve "the problem" by sticking the tarball I made on the upstream website at any moment I choose is, or should be, irrelevant. I think the tarball I created should be acceptable in any case. I think it's quite clear what I created, and I don't think there's any intent to confuse our users, and I think that should be sufficient. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku
