Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 15, 2024 12:20:27 PM UTC, Guillem Jover wrote: >Hi! > >On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 09:01:06 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> 1) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW >> 'signify-mail' with d/control modified as: >> >> Source: signify-mail >> ... >> Package: sign

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 09:01:06 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > 1) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW > 'signify-mail' with d/control modified as: > > Source: signify-mail > ... > Package: signify-mail > Replaces: signify (<= 1.14-7) > > Do we need 'Breaks: signi

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 19:42:45 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 10:26 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon Oct 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote: > > > P.S.: Isnt it about time to rename exim4 to exim? > > > > Or apache2 to apache? > The ASF is responsible for

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024, 12:43 Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 10:26 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon Oct 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote: > > > P.S.: Isnt it about time to rename exim4 to exim? > > > > Or apache2 to apache? > > The ASF is responsible for a lot more tha

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 10:26 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon Oct 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote: > > P.S.: Isnt it about time to rename exim4 to exim? > > Or apache2 to apache? The ASF is responsible for a lot more than httpd now, and is also (gradually) moving away from using th

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 11:02:47AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Thanks for review! I tried to revise the plan below, does this work? > > I think we should compare this plan to simply remove the 'signify' > package, but haven't fleshed out that plan yet. > > /Simon > > x) Take current non-Ope

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 10/9/24 18:02, Simon Josefsson wrote: x) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW 'signify-mail' package, say version 1.14-8 (?), that provides /usr/bin/signify-mail instead of /usr/bin/signify, and has d/control: Source: signify-mail ... Package: signify-mail

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Oct 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote: > P.S.: Isnt it about time to rename exim4 to exim? Or apache2 to apache? -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Simon Josefsson
Thanks for review! I tried to revise the plan below, does this work? I think we should compare this plan to simply remove the 'signify' package, but haven't fleshed out that plan yet. /Simon x) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW 'signify-mail' package, say version

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-09 Thread Simon Josefsson
Paul Gevers writes: > Hi > > On 08-10-2024 09:01, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> 3) Open a wishlist bug for 'signify-openbsd' with a patch to provide a >> 'Package: signify' that has /usr/bin/signify and to add: > > Do I understand correctly that signify-mail will also provide a > /usr/bin/signify? Y

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-08 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi On 08-10-2024 09:01, Simon Josefsson wrote: 3) Open a wishlist bug for 'signify-openbsd' with a patch to provide a 'Package: signify' that has /usr/bin/signify and to add: Do I understand correctly that signify-mail will also provide a /usr/bin/signify? That's not allowed if the binaries h

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-08 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 10/8/24 16:01, Simon Josefsson wrote: 1) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW 'signify-mail' with d/control modified as: Source: signify-mail ... Package: signify-mail Replaces: signify (<= 1.14-7) Do we need 'Breaks: signify (<= 1.14-7)' too? Conflicts

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Attempting to summarize this thread into actions - please correct me when I misunderstood: 1) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW 'signify-mail' with d/control modified as: Source: signify-mail ... Package: signify-mail Replaces: signify (<= 1.14-7) Do we need 'Break

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Marvin Renich
* Simon Richter [241007 09:50]: > On 10/7/24 21:43, Marvin Renich wrote: > > > trixie: > >remove old src: signify > > yes. > > >single source upload: > > src: signify -> signify-mail > > binary: signify -> signify-mail > > new signify as transitional > >

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 10/7/24 21:43, Marvin Renich wrote: trixie: remove old src: signify yes. single source upload: src: signify -> signify-mail binary: signify -> signify-mail new signify as transitional unversioned Depends: signify-mail yes. trixie

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 17:31:33 +0900, Simon Richter wrote: >On 10/7/24 16:58, Marc Haber wrote: >> I also see trouble in the archive when we have old signify in older >> distributions and new signify in unstable and testing. Without having >> any technical justification for that, I would probably go

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Marvin Renich
* Simon Richter [241007 04:32]: > The correct approach is one release with a transitional package, pulling the > new package in, and one release with the name unused (so the transitional > package is listed in Obsolete/Local). > > The release without the package also makes sure that any archive v

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 10/7/24 16:58, Marc Haber wrote: I also see trouble in the archive when we have old signify in older distributions and new signify in unstable and testing. Without having any technical justification for that, I would probably go ahead to rename signify to signify-mail, leaving signify-op

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 05 Oct 2024 20:39:39 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: >I'm fairly sure there's no support for this in Debian infrastructure >(dak or debbugs). I have the gut feeling that this is going to cause at least minor discomfort because our tools don't care for that at all. I still get occasional mail

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Oct 6, 2024 at 4:45 PM BST, Andreas Metzler wrote: > If you do not rename signify(src) to signify-mail(src) the bts might mix > up bugs against signify(bin) from signify-openbsd(src) with bugs against > the source package signify. Do we know in which direction the problem might occur? signi

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2024-10-06 17:45:46 +0200 (+0200), Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > If you do not rename signify(src) to signify-mail(src) the bts might mix > up bugs against signify(bin) from signify-openbsd(src) with bugs against > the source package signify. > > Renaming signify-openbsd(src) to signify(src) w

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2024-10-06 at 17:45 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2024-10-06 Simon Josefsson wrote: > [...] > > I agree in principle, but I wonder if going through the effort of > > introducing a new source package 'signify-mail' and removing the current > > 'signify' will give us anything beyond doi

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2024-10-06 at 09:45 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: [...] > I agree in principle, but I wonder if going through the effort of > introducing a new source package 'signify-mail' and removing the current > 'signify' will give us anything beyond doing the QA package upload to > rename the binary

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-10-06 Simon Josefsson wrote: [...] > I agree in principle, but I wonder if going through the effort of > introducing a new source package 'signify-mail' and removing the current > 'signify' will give us anything beyond doing the QA package upload to > rename the binary package. > The only

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Richard Lewis
Marco d'Itri writes: > On Oct 05, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> I would like that 'apt install signify' install OpenBSD's signify (from >> the Debian 'signify-openbsd' package) and not the 2003 mail-related >> signify perl script from the Debian 'signify' source package. > Agreed: the current sign

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-06 Thread Simon Josefsson
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 20:15 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Ben Hutchings writes: >> >> > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 12:31 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> > [...] >> > > This will rename the binary package to 'signify-mail', as suggested in >> > > the first bug report above

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 20:15 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > > > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 12:31 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > [...] > > > This will rename the binary package to 'signify-mail', as suggested in > > > the first bug report above, and add a 'signify (<< 1.14-8~

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-05 Thread Simon Josefsson
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 12:31 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > [...] >> This will rename the binary package to 'signify-mail', as suggested in >> the first bug report above, and add a 'signify (<< 1.14-8~)' Replaces >> header. >> >> Is anything more required here? > [...] >

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 12:31 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: [...] > This will rename the binary package to 'signify-mail', as suggested in > the first bug report above, and add a 'signify (<< 1.14-8~)' Replaces > header. > > Is anything more required here? [...] Yes, I think you should also rename

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 05, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I would like that 'apt install signify' install OpenBSD's signify (from > the Debian 'signify-openbsd' package) and not the 2003 mail-related > signify perl script from the Debian 'signify' source package. Agreed: the current signify package is a niche tool mai

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-05 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi I would like that 'apt install signify' install OpenBSD's signify (from the Debian 'signify-openbsd' package) and not the 2003 mail-related signify perl script from the Debian 'signify' source package. I would also like that /usr/bin/signify is OpenBSD's signify, after doing the 'apt install s