how to stop Marco from locking up on Bullseye/Mate?

2022-06-29 Thread Chevelle
    If I start VLC to play an audio file and press control-q to quit the file Marco gets locked up.  This renders ORCA useless because it can't read things properly.  The system is useless at that point.  A similar thing happens with MPV.  It was happening with Chromium until version 103 came o

Re: how to stop Marco from locking up on Bullseye/Mate?

2022-07-01 Thread Chevelle
em earlier without a solution so far. I don't know how to reproduce the problem every time. to unlock marco and orca, just call the orca preferences with the shortcut orca + space. once an orca window appears everything unlocks...until next time...     Jerem Le 29/06/2022 à 20:48, Chevelle

BRLTTY on Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 2 release

2023-02-20 Thread Chevelle
    I was able to install it with speech under QUICK EMU.  I notice if I install BRLTTY, I get this: update-rc.d: Warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported: falling back to defaults Not sure if this is a problem or not, because I haven't gotten the Braille device working under

Re: BRLTTY on Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 2 release

2023-02-23 Thread Chevelle
instructions. Thanks. On 2/23/2023 7:35 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Chevelle, le lun. 20 févr. 2023 21:46:46 -0500, a ecrit: update-rc.d: Warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported: falling back to defaults Not sure if this is a problem or not, That is not a problem.

Re: BRLTTY on Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 2 release

2023-02-23 Thread Chevelle
Sorry, the command was: quickemu --vm debian.conf --braille --display sdl On 2/23/2023 8:34 PM, Chevelle wrote: I was using 'quickemu'.  I think I tried quickemu --vm --braille --display sdl I'm not sure from the instructions how it is supposed to work. Should 'brltt

Bookworm: BRLTTY constantly logs errors

2023-06-16 Thread Chevelle
I view the system log with 'journalctl -e' there are repeating errors.  Possibly it can't find yxa2.so. See attached log. Do others see these errors? Thanks. Jun 16 10:43:06 m5 brltty[1496]: cannot load screen driver: /lib/brltty/libbrlttyxa2.so Jun 16 10:43:06 m5 brltty[1496]: screen driver

Re: Bookworm: BRLTTY constantly logs errors

2023-06-16 Thread Chevelle
    Yes, I use an old Alva.  I upgraded from Bullseye with the package manager. Installing 'brltty-x11' did stop the errors.  Possibly the package was missing after I installed Bullseye, I don't know for sure. Thanks! On 6/16/23 11:13, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Cheve

Re: Debian 12, Easiest Way to switch Between Already Installed Desktop Environments?

2023-07-05 Thread Chevelle
    When you are at the Login screen, try pressing the F10 key to get to the menu.  Then use your arrow keys to explore the menu.  I don't have two environments installed, but mine shows Mate currently. On 7/5/2023 3:19 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Thanks, That seems to be the issue though. I ca

newer version of libatspi for Bookworm?

2023-07-21 Thread Chevelle
; > I guess I'm going to have to dig into the Orca source code to see if I > > can figure this out. I see Orca on GitHub. Is that the best repository > > to clone? > > > > If I'm using gnome 44.2, are there any other projects I'd need to build > >

Re: newer version of libatspi for Bookworm?

2023-07-21 Thread Chevelle
    Not trying to rush you Samuel, just curious. Thanks for all your effort. On 7/21/23 12:56, Samuel Thibault wrote: Chevelle, le ven. 21 juil. 2023 10:51:53 -0400, a ecrit: Is it possible libatspi2.48.3 or newer will make it to Bookworm or Bookworm backports any time soon? bookworm

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-08-18 Thread Chevelle
    I have the AMD64 build of bookworm, but I have had it stop speaking.  Sometimes if I have a graphical session running, then switch to a speakup console, it is very slow to respond.  I wrote a simple bash script like this: #!/usr/bin/bash sleep 5 ls I start that in the terminal with ORC

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-08-29 Thread Chevelle
    I'm using AMD64, but sometimes I can find the PID for pipewire-pulse with 'ps ax'.  Then enter kill -SIGHUP Suddenly it will start working again. It might be worth a try. On 8/28/23 05:46, Geoff Shang wrote: On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, James Addison wrote: Working towards a better backtrac

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Chevelle
    Thanks Samuel.  The ORCA Debian package only has xbrlapi as Reccomends.  There doesn't seem to be any warning by ORCA so if xbrlapi isn't installed the unsuspecting user has a Braille display that doesn't work properly.  Should xbrlapi be a depends instead? On 9/4/23 18:08, Samuel Thibaul

Re: Noobie questions about installing Debian for blind user

2023-10-19 Thread Chevelle
    You can use Rufus to create a bootable USB drive from Windows. I last installed the Debian Bookworm by downloading it from www.debian.org. I would use the latest Bookworm installer.  If the PC has a speaker, you should hear a beep.  Then you can type 's' to start Speakup. There is an FAQ a

Re: Amazon and console browsers

2023-11-24 Thread Chevelle
    I just used 'w3m' to do a search on Amazon by typing 'w3m https://amazon.com'.  I didn't go through the buying process.  I'm not sure when you hit the CAPTCHA.  Jason makes some good points. On 11/23/23 12:48, Jason J.G. White wrote: On 23/11/23 12:16, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: CAPTC

Re: 12.9 installer?

2025-02-12 Thread Chevelle
, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Chevelle, le mar. 11 févr. 2025 15:17:14 -0500, a ecrit: I used the debian-12.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso installer and type 's' at the prompt.  The talking installe worked fine.  After I reboot the system I hear 'screen reader on, 11 button greyed'

12.9 installer?

2025-02-11 Thread Chevelle
Hello, I used the debian-12.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso installer and type 's' at the prompt.  The talking installe worked fine.  After I reboot the system I hear 'screen reader on, 11 button greyed'.  I can't use ORCA at that point, in other words the ORCA commands don't work.  By default the inst

Re: 12.9 installer?

2025-02-11 Thread Chevelle
Ok, thanks Samuel, I'll try it again. On 2/11/25 16:40, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Chevelle, le mar. 11 févr. 2025 15:17:14 -0500, a ecrit: I used the debian-12.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso installer and type 's' at the prompt.  The talking installe worked fine.  After I reboot th

Re: Best way to upgrade Orca from backports on Bookworm

2025-03-25 Thread Chevelle
Hello, I had one system where this upgrade worked and one that failed.  On the one that failed, some python import statements failed when ORCA is started.  From what I can tell the ORCA package needs 'python3-dbus'.  So if your ORCA won't speak, try this: sudo apt install python3-dbus I don't

Re: Fwd: Best way to upgrade Orca from backports on Bookworm

2025-03-26 Thread Chevelle
Matthew says: >think that dirring install, backports should ready be enabled and  if >using accessibility, the accessibility statck should be pulled in by >default dirring install using the install with speech option anywayy. It is an interesting idea, but I don't think Debian policy would allo

Re: Weird behavior with mates top panel

2025-04-20 Thread Chevelle
Mine doesn't have a programming menu, but it does get stuck as you describe.  It seems that pressing escape can get it back to the menu. On 4/20/25 05:59, Kenneth wrote: Hi, I've noticed something odd, that i think is a odd behaviour. When i log in to my Debian 12.10 bookworm, and press ctrl

Re: No speech in the alpha Installer, and speech freeze in Bookworm

2025-04-26 Thread Chevelle
If it doesn't detect your sound card, you need to find out if that is a supported piece of hardware.  If it has a driver you may have to install it manually, which could be difficult unless you have a Braille device or somebody to help. Search for your sound hardware and see if somebody alread

Re: Talking desktop after installation

2025-04-17 Thread Chevelle
Install Mate Desktop, it is currently still the most accessible from what I can tell. On 4/17/25 09:52, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing Debian for a try. I have read on the accessibility/orca page at Debian Wiki that Gnome is the only desktop that comes talking

Re: No speech in the alpha Installer, and speech freeze in Bookworm

2025-04-24 Thread Chevelle
    I installed the image debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ This was in a virtual machine, but it seemed to work fine. On 4/22/25 23:44, Sam Hartman wrote: "Cleverson" == Cleverson Casarin Uliana writes: Cleverson> Hi, I've tried to start installi

Re: espeakup in a console

2025-03-02 Thread Chevelle
If you think the audio is muted and amixer is instaled you can try: amixer sset Master unmute On 3/2/25 17:46, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: Samuel, I get confused with speakup and speechd-up. I've run systemctl status espeakup And received notice that espeakup is running. Is there a command to

Re: making espeakup and orca run on the mate desktop so I can switch between the console and the desktop

2025-03-03 Thread Chevelle
In my experience the best thing to do is become root and purge the pulseaudio package.  You may want to have braille running or 'ssh' into the box in case it doesn't work. apt purge pulseaudio Debian has a long term plan to get rid of pulseaudio and the pipewire process is running to handle

Re: making espeakup and orca run on the mate desktop so I can switch between the console and the desktop

2025-03-03 Thread Chevelle
talking. Maybe the sound cards being different has something to do with it, I'm not sure. On 3/3/25 15:22, Samuel Thibault wrote: Chevelle, le lun. 03 mars 2025 15:20:14 -0500, a ecrit: Debian has a long term plan to get rid of pulseaudio and the pipewire process is running to handle wha

Re: Problems with sound card

2025-02-27 Thread Chevelle
My sound card works fine before logging in.  You probably need to check the logs and find out why it doesn't work.  Maybe set the system up to use backports and get the non-free repository.  Then use some commands like this to get firmware updates. sudo apt -y install fwupdate fwupdmgr get-up

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-25 Thread Chevelle
Atril Document viewer and some other applications require you to enable caret navigation.  You can press the F7 key to toggle it. After that you should be able to arrow up and down or use the 'speak entire document' key.  You can press alt-e to get to the Edit menu and try to save your preferen

Re: Mate desktop - panelicons Wi-Fi, battery, system tray etc.

2025-02-25 Thread Chevelle
When you press the control-alt-tab and you hear it say 'top pannel', press the left arrow key to move accross the menu.  I hear Calendar first, then WIFI.  If I then press enter I can arrow up and down in the WIFI settings. On 2/25/25 11:33, Kenneth wrote: Hello Glenn, Thanks for sharing t

Re: after upgrading to testing Alt Windows s no longer works

2025-04-04 Thread Chevelle
On my system, it was the same.  You gave me an idea, in your previous message.  On this system 'mate-control-center' is missing.  Assuming you are using Mate do: sudo apt install mate-control-center Now under Control Center you can find Keyboard Shortcuts and fix it. On 4/2/25 22:49, Ryan

Re: Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-04 Thread Chevelle
Thanks, I did a quick search and found the Wiki.  I agree, it gives bad advice.  Thanks. On 4/4/25 13:47, Paul Gevers wrote: Hi, On 03-04-2025 23:05, Chevelle wrote: I was following the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting It is true, I didn't use a 'full-upgrad

Re: Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-03 Thread Chevelle
Ok, I'm attaching history.log.gz.  I did have to force some of the packages to install, but I'm not the only one who had a missing 'caja' package. Thanks. On 4/3/25 11:31, Paul Gevers wrote: Hi On 03-04-2025 17:13, Chevelle wrote: My original Bookworm system had C

Re: Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-03 Thread Chevelle
error, you seem to have to run it again to know if it failed, unless I missed something. Sorry, I'm not sure why quickemu. deletes Caja. Thanks for looking into it. On 4/3/25 15:36, Paul Gevers wrote: Hi, On 03-04-2025 19:14, Chevelle wrote: Ok, I'm attaching history.log.gz.  I

Re: Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-03 Thread Chevelle
y not be set to American, if you used the right control and alt. UK keyboards don't typically use the right control key. Although it is awkward, try the left control alt and D. Glenn - Original Message ----- From: "Chevelle" To: "K0LNY ??" Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 20

Re: Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-03 Thread Chevelle
ist rmann0...@gmail.com 386-383-5175 On Apr 2, 2025, at 4:23 PM, Chevelle wrote: Hello, I upgraded a Mate Bookworm plus Backports to Debian Testing. When I press alt-control-tab, I cycle between the Top Panel and Bottom Panel, but not the desktop. On the Bottom Panel is a button that says Sh

Debian testing can't tab to desktop?

2025-04-02 Thread Chevelle
Hello, I upgraded a Mate Bookworm plus Backports to Debian Testing.  When I press alt-control-tab, I cycle between the Top Panel and Bottom Panel, but not the desktop.  On the Bottom Panel is a button that says Show Desktop, I press space on that, but it doesn't make any difference.  Any idea h

Re: headless system won't make a default choice

2025-05-06 Thread Chevelle
I'm not sure I understand what you want, but probably you can replace the show_menu function with the bash 'select' statement. ORCA should read that. See https://linuxize.com/post/bash-select/ On 5/6/25 13:53, K0LNY ?? wrote: Hello, I have this police/fire software on a Raspberry PI, which is

Re: making espeakup and orca run on the mate desktop so I can switch between the console and the desktop

2025-06-12 Thread Chevelle
On Debian Bookworm, I can get this to work by getting rid of pulseaudio. /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf has this line AudioOutputMethod pulse Pipewire is running and has a process called 'pipewire-pulse'. ps -ef|grep pulse You should find '/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse' running, it emulates wh

Re: making espeakup and orca run on the mate desktop so I can switch between the console and the desktop

2025-06-12 Thread Chevelle
I want to be able to do?  Nick Gawronski On 6/12/2025 8:23 AM, Chevelle wrote: On Debian Bookworm, I can get this to work by getting rid of pulseaudio. /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf has this line AudioOutputMethod pulse Pipewire is running and has a process called 'pipewire-pulse

Re: Ubuntu Re: Voice In Log In Window For Changing Desktops

2025-07-07 Thread Chevelle
On Debian there is an /etc/group file.  The line with the audio group contains my user ID and 'pulse'.  See this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup On 7/6/25 20:57, K0LNY ?? wrote: How do I make the audio group open to any user? Like 775? I don't know how to do this, if I change /etc

Re: desktops

2025-07-18 Thread Chevelle
A couple years ago I hade Mate and GNOME on a Ubuntu system.  I could log out of one and then choose the desktop before logging in.  I no longer use Ubuntu, but I assume you can do the same thing on Debian. I may try it in a few weeks on my test system. On 7/17/25 17:51, Chime Hart wrote: Hi

Orca errors on most recent stable release

2009-04-14 Thread Chevelle Strobel
I tried a command like this gnome-terminal orca --setup 2>test.txt Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/orca/orca.py", line 1021, in _showPreferencesConsole module.showPreferencesUI(_commandLineSettings) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/orca/o