On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 06:04:49PM +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 08:52 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>> Ok, I'm all set.
>
>All 14 bags plus a single Final Report have now been sent.
>
>I'm attaching a report that describes what was in each bag, to whom it
>was sent, what t
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 08:52 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> Ok, I'm all set.
All 14 bags plus a single Final Report have now been sent.
I'm attaching a report that describes what was in each bag, to whom it
was sent, what the costs were and what the tracking number is.
Unfortunately, there were
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 00:46 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Best would be to put a (color) printed version of the report into the bags.
>
> We will release it tomorrow to the public (got another small part of
> text promised which we want to wait on), so you should be able to start
> arranging to se
On 10988 March 1977, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>> Some DC7 sponsors are blocking on getting bags and reports from last
>> year. We have put together a DC6 report; do you still have these bags
>> to send out?
> Yes, I do. Three questions:
> 1. Should I send only the bags (reports being sent separat
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 17:40 +0100, Moray Allan wrote:
> Some DC7 sponsors are blocking on getting bags and reports from last
> year. We have put together a DC6 report; do you still have these bags
> to send out?
Yes, I do. Three questions:
1. Should I send only the bags (reports being sent separ
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 11:16 +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> That said, if someone does pick up the pending tasks then I can of
> course add any ready-made material to the bags and mail them to a list
> of specified recipients.
Some DC7 sponsors are blocking on getting bags and reports from last
y
Hi,
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 05:37, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Holger Levsen dijo [Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:59:45PM +0100]:
> > Ack. So #100 didn't work out - sadly, we should manage this this time.
> > And close this ticket now?!
I closed it now.
Still open:
#103: financial report for debconf6
#99:
Holger Levsen dijo [Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:59:45PM +0100]:
> > The time I allocated for DC6 has already passed long ago, and my
> > schedule is now filled with other things. I don't think we should keep
> > this open forever, hoping for people ("someone") to do tasks that they
> > haven't done for
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On 01/31/2007 05:59 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Saturday 13 January 2007 10:16, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>> On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 19:34 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
>> wrote:
>>> Ok, so here we are again, a couple of months later, anyth
Hi,
On Saturday 13 January 2007 10:16, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 19:34 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
>
> wrote:
> > Ok, so here we are again, a couple of months later, anything
> > happen since them? What should be the next steps? What is holding us
> > to finis
On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 19:34 -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
> Ok, so here we are again, a couple of months later, anything
> happen since them? What should be the next steps? What is holding us
> to finish DC6 tasks?
Nothing has happened on this front since my last mail. The n
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On 11/10/2006 04:16 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 01:29 +, Moray Allan wrote:
>>Has this happened yet?
>
> I'm afraid it hasn't.
>
>
>>I guess by now we could include a note of apology for the bags being
>>late, and a copy
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 01:29 +, Moray Allan wrote:
> Has this happened yet?
I'm afraid it hasn't.
> I guess by now we could include a note of apology for the bags being
> late, and a copy of the DebConf7 sponsorship brochure. ;)
Good idea -- I then need 14 copies of that brochure somehow :)
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:27 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> At this point, since the report doesn't exist yet, I'd like to just send
> the bags as is.
Has this happened yet?
I guess by now we could include a note of apology for the bags being
late, and a copy of the DebConf7 sponsorship brochure
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 08:42 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> 2. The original plan was to include the Final Report in the bag,
> plus a DVD of the talks, if that would happen to be possible. I
> assume we cancel this plan now, since some bags have already
> been sent wit
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On 08/15/2006 05:43 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
[...]
> It's also about working as a group. Taking the time to define and agree
> on a vision may sound like the most boring and irrelevant thing in the
> world, but it's very important. Before doing that
Fabian Fagerholm dijo [Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:42:15AM +0300]:
> > Well, given that it took a couple of days for the tracker to start
> > displaying the ticket... Anything might be true.
> >
> > Anyway, if they _do_ find an Espoo, Finland, in our country, and there
> > is a Sr. Fagerholm living th
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:05 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Well, given that it took a couple of days for the tracker to start
> displaying the ticket... Anything might be true.
>
> Anyway, if they _do_ find an Espoo, Finland, in our country, and there
> is a Sr. Fagerholm living there, he can keep ou
Hi,
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 18:00, Anthony Towns wrote:
> FWIW, I'd love to see a summary of what worked at the previous debconf,
> so that we don't forget it. Things like what projects people managed
> to get further progressed, or which organisational tactics worked well,
> how was involved an
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:43:41AM +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 14:55 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I think the vision and goals you had with last years report are (largely)
> > still valid today. And what (if anything) is different, we'll see on the
> > way,
> > wont
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 14:55 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I think the vision and goals you had with last years report are (largely)
> still valid today. And what (if anything) is different, we'll see on the way,
> wont we?
Yes, that's right, we will notice what's different along the way.
The fo
Hi,
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 08:36, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> I could just go ahead and make something up on my own, but I would much
> rather base everything on a vision that the group stands by. If that's
> not possible then I'll have to go ahead without that vision.
I think the vision and goa
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 09:08 -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
> On 08/04/2006 04:18 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> > Does anyone have any comments? Do you need more time to think this over?
>
> What is the situation? Are you still planning to work on
> the report, which actually,
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On 08/04/2006 04:18 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 14:23 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>
>>Then came the delegation discussions, the delegation, the withdrawal...
>>So I'm uncertain about what the current team thinks the report s
Fabian Fagerholm dijo [Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:06:54AM +0300]:
> > Ok, after having some (hopefully) unimportant problems trying to send
> > the stuff via a different courier service, Gaby managed to send it via
> > Sepomex / Mexpost [1] - Fabian, they should be at your door within a
> > week.
> >
Hi,
On Friday 04 August 2006 09:18, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> Does anyone have any comments? Do you need more time to think this over?
Yes, yes. Actually not to think it over, but more to put it in written words.
Basically I'd say: last years report was good, from the targeted audience and
the
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 14:23 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> Then came the delegation discussions, the delegation, the withdrawal...
> So I'm uncertain about what the current team thinks the report should
> achieve and how. (Aside from the uncertainty regarding the current
> composition of the team
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:38 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Ok, after having some (hopefully) unimportant problems trying to send
> the stuff via a different courier service, Gaby managed to send it via
> Sepomex / Mexpost [1] - Fabian, they should be at your door within a
> week.
>
> The shipment's
Safir Secerovic dijo [Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 11:40:46AM +0200]:
> > Yes. I'm sorry for not replying to your mail in this regard. It's all
> > still with me. I have not sent them as I wanted to get a cheaper
> > courier service than what I got to send Safir his stuff (BTW, Safir,
> > did you finally r
Fabian Fagerholm dijo [Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 12:45:51PM +0300]:
> (...)
> * Sponsor packages/bags
> * intended to be sent to sponsors along with a copy of the
> Final Report
> * last known location (to my knowledge) of materials is
>
Alexander Schmehl dijo [Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 08:25:40PM +0200]:
> > BTW, now that we are on this: I have quite a bunch of stuff left over
> > from Debconf - The coffee machine, network and power cables, some
> > network cards, paper, pens, scotch tape, etc. I have it all at home,
> > just waiting f
Hi!
* Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060728 22:50]:
> BTW, now that we are on this: I have quite a bunch of stuff left over
> from Debconf - The coffee machine, network and power cables, some
> network cards, paper, pens, scotch tape, etc. I have it all at home,
> just waiting for us to decide
Hola Gunnar,
>
> Yes. I'm sorry for not replying to your mail in this regard. It's all
> still with me. I have not sent them as I wanted to get a cheaper
> courier service than what I got to send Safir his stuff (BTW, Safir,
> did you finally receive it?), but it's been enough - I'll ship them,
>
Fabian Fagerholm dijo [Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 12:45:51PM +0300]:
> Hi,
>
> While discussing and planning future DebConfs is certainly exciting and,
> er... entertaining, there are those of us who recognise the importance
> of wrapping up already started work. Now that the dust seems to have
> settle
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 19:33 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I don't understand the claim that DebConf 6 failed. That wasn't my
> perception at all -- it had problems, certainly; every conference
> does. But I definitely think that it served a few valuable purposes:
[...]
Yes, this was part of my poi
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:05 +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> Okay, rereading my mail, I think I should have phrased some passages
> less provocative (or not in a public at all, but in a private mail).
> However, I can't take the mail back.
[...]
Thanks for clarifying. Perhaps it was just as good
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 12:42 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I'll go on now with Fabians original mail which started this thread:
>
> > Here is a list of such tasks that I am aware of:
> > * The Final Report
> > * originally my task, now a total uncertainty since a
> >
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On 07/26/2006 06:11 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
[...]
> Now, back to the original question of pending tasks.
>
> Felipe suggested [0] two things (good suggestions IMO): to ask Andreas
> for more items to go on the list, and to ask Andreas for help in
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On 07/26/2006 06:07 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
[...]
> I hope more thought and sensitivity to circumstances is put behind any
> further intervention.
I was expecting that we don't have further interventions so
we could focus on DebConf. :-)
Hi!
* Fabian Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060726 11:11]:
> Hold on there, Alexander. With all due respect, I think you are not
> seeing things clearly right now.
Okay, rereading my mail, I think I should have phrased some passages
less provocative (or not in a public at all, but in a private m
On wo, 2006-07-26 at 12:42 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> ..., we have more people
> involved in the general organisation atm, in the last meeting we have started
> defining how the team(s) should work and what debconfs goals are, we have a
> tighter relationsship with debian (and maybe even SPI
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>> * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 22:50]:
>> > On 10726 March 1977, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>> > > i suggest that those that took away the authority
>> > The team did not took it away, you resigned.
>> Some (or all?) i
Hi,
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 11:11, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> The claim that Andreas has failed to lead the team has gone undisputed
> for too long. A few vocal persons have used this as an argument to
> radically restructure the DebConf organisation. So far, the
> restructuring seems to have fai
On wo, 2006-07-26 at 11:41 +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 12:11:27PM +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> >
> > Andreas has been doing DebConfs for several years. It's unpaid,
> > voluntary work, but it's still a *lot* of work that he has had to put in
> > to make it work at all
On wo, 2006-07-26 at 12:11 +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> This is about getting closure for DebConf6,
Indeed. It is very important to get proper closure for DC6, whatever
that means. It's also important that this remains a team effort.
During DC5 it came onto too few shoulders and at som
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 12:11:27PM +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
>
> Andreas has been doing DebConfs for several years. It's unpaid,
> voluntary work, but it's still a *lot* of work that he has had to put in
> to make it work at all. So it's hardly surprising that he tried to do a
> few things di
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> * Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 22:50]:
> > On 10726 March 1977, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> > > i suggest that those that took away the authority
> > The team did not took it away, you resigned.
> Some (or all?) in the t
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 12:11:27PM +0300, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> In the end, it appears that Andreas has been selected as the culprit.
> Has he made mistakes? Of course. But to map the failures of DebConf6
> onto him alone is simply hiding your head in the sand. DebConf is a team
> effort. When
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 23:58 +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> Yes, it is your time, energy and decission. And yes, we accept your
> decission. But please understand, that it is our decission to tell you,
> how disapointed we are of you by first failing to lead the team, then
> not even helping u
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 17:46 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> [...] I will point out that in
> the email where the DPL made the delegation which he later withdrew, it
> was clearly limited in scope to be about "the decision of which of the
> two cities [i.e. EDI and SJJ] will host the next DebConf [
* Alexander Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060726 00:17]:
> Hi!
>
> * Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060725 23:21]:
>
> > I am sure there are people who disagree with that, but then it is
> > my perception that counts in this regard, because it is also my
> > time and my engery.
>
> Yes, it
I'll use this email to reply and voice my opinion on this discussion.
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 23:58 +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> * Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060725 23:21]:
>
> > I am sure there are people who disagree with that, but then it is
> > my perception that count
Hi Jimmy,
you used the right words, it "appears" and it "seems" to you that this was
a "status quo" state, but it might not have reflected the state as it has
actually been in.
Regards,
Safir
> Andreas,
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>> So the removed auth
Hi!
* Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060725 23:21]:
> I am sure there are people who disagree with that, but then it is
> my perception that counts in this regard, because it is also my
> time and my engery.
Yes, it is your time, energy and decission. And yes, we accept your
decission.
Andreas,
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> So the removed authority (and corresponding responsibility) was
> in no way only limited to the debconf7 location but rather about
> debconf in general.
Right now I'm not going to address the issue of whether you should
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> I am sure there are people who disagree with that, but then it is
> my perception that counts in this regard, because it is also my
> time and my engery.
It's your decision to refuse to complete the job that you willingly took
o
* Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 22:50]:
> On 10726 March 1977, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>
> >>Could we still ask Andreas help on these [1]list? I think it
> >> should be a good way to have a more complete list and to find out
> >> the right status of each task. Perhaps Andreas could
On 10726 March 1977, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>> Could we still ask Andreas help on these [1]list? I think it
>> should be a good way to have a more complete list and to find out
>> the right status of each task. Perhaps Andreas could help us to
>> finish the DebConf6 tasks (even off-list or i
* Andreas Schuldei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 21:36]:
> * Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 14:57]:
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> > On 07/25/2006 06:45 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> > [...]
> > > It's somewhat unclear to me who is running t
* Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060725 14:57]:
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> On 07/25/2006 06:45 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> [...]
> > It's somewhat unclear to me who is running the show at the moment and
> > how the above tasks fit into the overal
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On 07/25/2006 06:45 AM, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
[...]
> It's somewhat unclear to me who is running the show at the moment and
> how the above tasks fit into the overall goals of that/those person(s).
> I would welcome more clarity here, especially from
Hi,
While discussing and planning future DebConfs is certainly exciting and,
er... entertaining, there are those of us who recognise the importance
of wrapping up already started work. Now that the dust seems to have
settled temporarily, I'd like to know what tasks people still have
pending from D
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