Hi Moray,
More specifically for this year, the budget approval happened within the
> context of a debate over whether we could afford a DebCamp or not. To
> protect the main conference events, "worst case" budgets were assigned to
> them. That doesn't make it automatically responsible to aim to
On 2013-07-24 15:08, Steve Langasek wrote:
If it does fit in the budget when looked at this way, then as the
budget has
already been approved, I support Raphaël and Didier moving forward
with this
plan. Even if some of us don't think this is the best use of the
money,
it's not fair to those do
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 04:28:07PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> > Can you please point me at the cost of the one-hour boat ride option?
> > Looking at the 2h boat ride + dinner, the total is 14102 CHF; the
> > conference
> > dinner budget is 10440 CHF; this is a deficit of 3662 CHF, but I don't know
Steve Langasek writes:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:34:28PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
>> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>
>> > A conference dinner during a boat trip looks great, and something that
>> > attendees will remember, but it also looks quite expensive, even if we
>> > can afford it thanks
> According to their quote it would cost us CHF 5'076. On my side I didn't
> look
> at it this way. Just pool everything together and try to make an amazing
> Day
> Trip & Dinner for the project. That's all.
>
> Oops, sorry, I quoted the price without VAT.
Philipp
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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 07:08:47AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:40:08PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> > > My understanding is that the proposal does exceed the stated budget for
> > > the conference dinner, which is what makes it important to have the
> > > analysis again
Hi,
> Can you please point me at the cost of the one-hour boat ride option?
> Looking at the 2h boat ride + dinner, the total is 14102 CHF; the
> conference
> dinner budget is 10440 CHF; this is a deficit of 3662 CHF, but I don't know
> how much the 1h boat ride would cost us. Perhaps this reall
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:40:08PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> > My understanding is that the proposal does exceed the stated budget for
> > the conference dinner, which is what makes it important to have the
> > analysis against the other points. (We believe we can afford it by
> > reallocating u
Hi Steve,
> My understanding is that the proposal does exceed the stated budget for the
> conference dinner, which is what makes it important to have the analysis
> against the other points. (We believe we can afford it by reallocating
> unused funds from the "day trip" line; but that's still so
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:34:28PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> > A conference dinner during a boat trip looks great, and something that
> > attendees will remember, but it also looks quite expensive, even if we
> > can afford it thanks to the fantastic work of the sp
Hi Lucas
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>
> A conference dinner during a boat trip looks great, and something that
> attendees will remember, but it also looks quite expensive, even if we
> can afford it thanks to the fantastic work of the sponsorship team. I
> was wondering if some compromise solutions
On 23/07/13 at 12:20 +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Now, as a matter of full honesty; by looking at the detailed budget
> > source, I see that the amounts were as follows: 50 CHF / person for
> > DayTrip, 30 CHF / person for Conference Dinner; both multiplied by 348
> > unique attendees.
>
>
Le mardi, 23 juillet 2013 20.05:41, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> I understand the frustration at revisiting such questions if it
> appears that nothing has changed.
That's the core point indeed. I really suffer (but that might be just
me) from the permanent revisiting of questions that plagues the
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 09:54:13AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > I really can't believe that this is the best possible use for Debian
> > of 28 000 CHF.
> At the time, that's what the DPL approved as "good use of Debian money"
> in my understanding.
The DPL budget approval is an all-but
Le mardi, 23 juillet 2013 17.55:11, Holger Levsen a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Formally, the proposed plan is _not_ going over the approved
> > budget, which had total amounts, and not the (per-person) details
> > [1]. The DPL approved a global bu
Hi,
On Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Formally, the proposed plan is _not_ going over the approved budget,
> which had total amounts, and not the (per-person) details [1]. The DPL
> approved a global budget, not a per-person split budget (we have non-
> per-person costs as
Le mardi, 23 juillet 2013 14.13:19, Holger Levsen a écrit :
> On Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > ...the DPL
> > approved [0] a budget including 10.4 kCHF for the conference dinner
> > and 17.4 kCHF for the Day Trip.
>
> point.
>
> > Given the above, I think the only reaso
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:20:59PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> Now, as a matter of full honesty; by looking at the detailed budget
> > source, I see that the amounts were as follows: 50 CHF / person for
> > DayTrip, 30 CHF / person for Conference Dinner; both multiplied by 348
> > unique attendees.
Hi,
On Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> ...the DPL
> approved [0] a budget including 10.4 kCHF for the conference dinner and
> 17.4 kCHF for the Day Trip.
point.
> Given the above, I think the only reasonable request to the DayTrip
> organisers now is to ask them to fit th
Hi,
Now, as a matter of full honesty; by looking at the detailed budget
> source, I see that the amounts were as follows: 50 CHF / person for
> DayTrip, 30 CHF / person for Conference Dinner; both multiplied by 348
> unique attendees.
That's correct, we calculated with CHF 50 /p.P for the daytri
Hi Moray,
Le lundi, 22 juillet 2013 23.02:26, Moray Allan a écrit :
> On 2013-07-22 08:53, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> >> As you can see the budget for that day is close to CHF 28'000
> >> which is CHF 111 per person (252 attendees).
> >
> > wow :-
Hi Moray,
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:02:26PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote:
> On 2013-07-22 08:53, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >On Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> >>As you can see the budget for that day is close to CHF 28'000
> >>which is CHF
> >>111 per person (252 attendees).
> >
> >wow :
On 2013-07-21 17:54, Raphaël Walther wrote:
I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do
the
conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
Thanks for working on this.
I already posted at my amazement at
On 2013-07-22 08:53, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
As you can see the budget for that day is close to CHF 28'000 which
is CHF
111 per person (252 attendees).
wow :-/ Thats a lot of money for a day out in the green.
It is indeed an amazing amount for
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 06:54:14PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the
> conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
JFTR: This does not seem to mean tha
Hi
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Le lundi, 22 juillet 2013 12.15:02, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit :
>> Yes the late dinner is possible according to Le Camp. We also still
>> have the third option of having busses at different times from
>> Neuchatel to Le Camp and only do dinner at Le Camp to some
Le lundi, 22 juillet 2013 12.15:02, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit :
> Yes the late dinner is possible according to Le Camp. We also still
> have the third option of having busses at different times from
> Neuchatel to Le Camp and only do dinner at Le Camp to some people.
… with the only hurdle being th
Raphaël Walther writes:
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:53:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> > I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the
>> > conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
>> > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
>>
>>
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:53:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the
> > conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
> > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
>
> Thanks for all your work on this,
Hi,
On Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote:
> I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the
> conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
Thanks for all your work on this, Raphaël!
> We
Hey,
I am writting regarding the Day Trip plan. The current plan is to do the
conference dinner on the boat on the way back from the day trip!
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/DayTrip
We would need an approval on Tuesday from the team. Then, we will
ask the participants to register for the
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