On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:09, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> What do you think? Do we still need the words at
> http://cygwin.com/download.html to exist as a separate entity? If so,
> I'll probably add another documentation link to the main web page for
> people who are first downloading cygwin. I
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:36:38AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
>> (anyone sick of the "gold star" stuff yet?)
>
>No! ;-)
>
>> I just wanted to put in a kudo for Joshua Franklin and his work on the
>> cygwin documentation. His latest setup documentation installment is
>> really wonderful. It is
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:23:43PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:09:25AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> I just wanted to put in a kudo for Joshua Franklin and his work on the
>> cygwin documentation. His latest setup documentation installment is
>> really wo
> Sounds fine to me. I do think we should at least leave a link to the
> installer for veteran users. (Or do we all type in
'cygwin.com/setup.exe'?)
I know I do :-)
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> (anyone sick of the "gold star" stuff yet?)
No! ;-)
> I just wanted to put in a kudo for Joshua Franklin and his work on the
> cygwin documentation. His latest setup documentation installment is
> really wonderful. It is just what we needed.
Indeed. Nice Work!
> It is so good that I would l
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:09:25AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> I just wanted to put in a kudo for Joshua Franklin and his work on the
> cygwin documentation. His latest setup documentation installment is
> really wonderful. It is just what we needed.
Thanks! I don't really know why I neve
(anyone sick of the "gold star" stuff yet?)
I just wanted to put in a kudo for Joshua Franklin and his work on the
cygwin documentation. His latest setup documentation installment is
really wonderful. It is just what we needed.
It is so good that I would like to suggest that maybe it should sub
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew DeFaria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> I'm not saying that if one wants /etc/passwd updated one sure run
> Cygwin's setup.exe. What I'm saying is that Cygwin's setup.exe should
> not break the /etc/passwd in place already. My experiences says that
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: New suggestion for setup, binary/dos-mode
>
>
> Hello!
>
> Looking at the Xfree mailinglist it seems like ma
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:43:43PM -0500, Paul Dilip K NPRI wrote:
> Hi Corinna,
> Looks like you are the developer for cygwin. I need to use some windows graphics
>library with my g77 compiled program in cygwin. I posted it previosly and did not get
>any response.
I'm not *the* developer but j
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From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: cygwin
Subject: Re: FW: Suggestion for setup
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:49:29PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> PS: something I don't fully understand, but I think it
Hi,
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess the best solution is to present the user with several options
>
> 1) Create /etc/passwd using local accounts?
>
> 2) Create /etc/passwd using domain accounts?
>
> 3) Create /etc/passwd using local and domain accounts?
>
> 4) Don't
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:49:29PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> PS: something I don't fully understand, but I think it's related to the
> "Reply-To:" header field, is that you have the same setup, but when replying
> to you I'm replying to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (not "Christopher Faylor" or
> "
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FW: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:28:53AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
&g
Hello!
Looking at the Xfree mailinglist it seems like many people have
problems due to have installed with dos-mode. My thought is if it is
their unsurability about unix/dos, and toggling that due to that..
Is it possible to hide it a little.. or similar, so it is not so easy
to toggle.. Or jus
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:28:53AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:34 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: FW: Suggestion for setup
>>
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To: "'Michael A Chase'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andrew DeFaria"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cygwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 07,
> -Original Message-
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FW: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:32:24PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael A Chase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:46 PM
> To: Andrew DeFaria; cygwin
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrew DeFaria&q
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:35:07PM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote:
> >It wouldn't
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:35:07PM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote:
>It wouldn't be very hard to add /etc/passwd.lnk and /etc/group.lnk to
>the test in desktop.cc. Would you accept it? I'm a bit hesitant
>because there are lots of other files and directories that might also
>be affected.
Personall
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From: "Michael A Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Robert,
>It wouldn't be very hard to add /etc/passwd.lnk and /etc/group.lnk
to the
> test in desktop.cc. Would you accept it? I'm a bit hesitant because
there
> are lots of other files and directories that might
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From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael A Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 16:29
Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
> Michael A Chase wrote:
>
> > The test has been in the code for
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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 13:46
Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
> Michael A Chase wrote:
>
> > I recently messed with the functio
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> Rick Rankin wrote:
>
> > Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge* domain, and
"mkpasswd
> > -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete, so I
definitely
> > w
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From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge*
> > domain, and "mkpasswd
> > -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete,
> > so I definitely
> > wouldn't want to run blindly run it with the -d
eribert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael A Chase [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 20:26
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> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Faylor&
Michael A Chase wrote:
> I recently messed with the function that does that, so I can confirm that it
> only runs mkpasswd and mkgroup if the corresponding files don't exist.
When did this come about? Because every time I reinstall Cygwin it does
indeed run mkpasswd -l. I wonder, since our /etc
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> The code in setup.exe seems to indicate that mkpasswd and mkgroup will
> not be run if the corresponding files already exist. I was asking if
> people were actually seeing this happen after a first-time install.
I see mkpass -l run each and every time Cygwin is inst
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:32:24PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> Sorry, click on the wrong button and send a private mail to Corinna... :-)
Unlikely since I'm using the mailing list address in my "From:"
field. Just "reply" to my mailings and even Outlook sends
only one message to the list.
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:25:30AM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote:
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>From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 09:51
>Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
I've never seen setup run mkpasswd or mkgroup when /etc/passwd or /etc/group
exist, so I believe you're right, Chris, in saying that this is just a first
time setup issue. Personally, I just didn't want to see a first time user
around here get stuck with a 30 minute install process because setup b
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:25
Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:06:10AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> >Christopher Faylor
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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 09:51
Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> >Oh, I didn't
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:06:10AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>>>Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd
>>>-d" in such a case would be useful.
>>
>>This is just an
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>
>>Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd
>>-d" in such a case would be useful.
>>
>
> This is just an issue for first time installations, right? AFAICT,
> /etc/
Rick Rankin wrote:
> Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge* domain, and "mkpasswd
> -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete, so I definitely
> wouldn't want to run blindly run it with the -d option here. If it were
> implemented, it should be an option, at leas
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:52:20AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>It's not harmless. mkpasswd -d will result in an error message on
>>stand alone systems.
>
>Seems to me that mkpasswd could be made smart enough to try -d and if
>an error is returned issue a warning that i
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> It's not harmless. mkpasswd -d will result in an error message on
> stand alone systems.
Seems to me that mkpasswd could be made smart enough to try -d and if an
error is returned issue a warning that it's switching to -l mode.
> It's actually the other way around
At 12:29 PM 3/6/2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corin
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:30 PM
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> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK
> Partners, Inc
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd
>-d" in such a case would be useful.
This is just an issue for first time installations, right? AFAICT,
/etc/passwd should not be produced if there is a
Sorry, click on the wrong button and send a private mail to Corinna... :-)
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From: Bernard Dautrevaux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:15 PM
To: 'Corinna Vinschen'
Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup
> -Original Messag
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:22 PM
> To: Bernard Dautrevaux; 'Robert Collins'; Stephano Mariani;
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> Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup
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>
>
> --- Bern
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:
> -Original Message-
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote:
> > On Wed, Ma
At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> > >> As this is quite a simple patch, I proc
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> >> As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and
> >> mkpasswd.c
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
>> As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and
>> mkpasswd.c:
>
>I have two problems with this patch:
>
>- No ChangeLog entry.
>-
--- Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and
> /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup; otherwise,
> ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP use
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and
> mkpasswd.c:
I have two problems with this patch:
- No ChangeLog entry.
- Do we have a signed copyright assignment from you?
Corinna
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bernard Dautrevaux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:32 PM
> To: 'Corinna Vinschen'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> > -Original Message-
&
> -Original Message-
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> > O
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:
> On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and
> /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup; otherwise,
> ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP users that
> happen
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From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Nice to hear, so the patch could be simply to add the proper "-d" arg
in the
> mkpasswd/mkgroup call in the yet-to-be-written install-script; sorry,
but I
> can't do this either :-) :) :)
Lol! Yes, well if I writ
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:53 AM
> To: Bernard Dautrevaux; Stephano Mariani; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup
>
> >
> > Sorry for not providing a
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From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and
> /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup;
otherwise,
> ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP users
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:44 PM
> To: Stephano Mariani; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: St
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephano Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Suggestion for setup
>
>
> Perhaps this is already on the wish list, but it would be
> useful if setup co
Perhaps this is already on the wish list, but it would be useful if
setup could set the CYGWIN variable up with (at least) ntsec on
NT/2K/XP, and set correct file permissions and ownerships under cygwin
for the files it installs.
Thanks,
Stephano Mariani
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