We set the pole at pulpit height with the downhaul cleated and it is
essentially a sprit. On a short leg in course racing we just use a 2’ tack
line as pole setup takes a bit of time.
With the pole that low the guy runs inside the lifelines
Peter Kirkwood
38 mk2
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 8:10 PM
What I discovered was the overall position of the halyard and top swivel was
critical. Assuming you have a full hoist sail and no retainer, you need to
adjust the shackle length at deck level to get the halyard as far up as you can
without running the nicropress into the sheave. Too high and it
My exact experience.
From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
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To: Stus-List
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question
What I discovered was the overall position of the halyard and top swivel was
critical. Assuming you have a full hois
Thanks Peter. Good to know about the "inside lifelines".
Bob
> On 01/29/2021 7:41 AM Peter Kirkwood via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
>
> We set the pole at pulpit height with the downhaul cleated and it is
> essentially a sprit. On a short leg in course racing we just use a 2’ tac
Peter, I haven't been able to use the A3 in our OD races -- it isn't class
legal until 2021.
Racing PHRF in Wednesday 6 mile races I've been using an asail which is close
to an A2 - very close to a symmetrical that was modified to be an asail. Using
a tack line I've been very competitive. I
Sorry, that should have been directed to Charlie.
Bob
> On 01/29/2021 9:27 AM Bob Mann wrote:
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>
> Peter, I haven't been able to use the A3 in our OD races -- it isn't
> class legal until 2021.
>
> Racing PHRF in Wednesday 6 mile races I've been using an asail wh
Yes, using a spin pole as your “sprit” leaves it on the wrong side of the
forestay at the end of the gybe (as with symmetrical chute gybes). Because I
have a roller furling genny, I’m thinking about incorporating my ATN tacker
into an asym chute gybe using a pair of “handcuffs” (like you use wh
Or you can use a reaching strut, which I prefer.
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Thanks Peter. Good to know about the "inside lifelines".
Bob
On 01/29/2021 7:41
The perfect solution to the problem Joe!
Depending on the difference between 'too high and too low', finding the sweet
spot could be a chore and would likely require different shackle lengths at the
deck level for different sails.
A proper restrainer allows more 'slop' in the effective luff leng
Want to thank everyone for the replies and suggestions. I've ordered my
Bed-It, and will use Chuck Scheaffer's method for marking holes that need
filling now and drilling later.
This list is a great asset --
Jim Hesketh
C&C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:49 PM Charlie Nelson via
I raced on a C&C115 for a few years – it has an oversized spin pole and only
has asyms. As Joel says, ease the sheet and do an outside of the forestay
(inside of the pole tip) jibe and let the spin float in front of the boat when
turning. We had a crew grab the new sheet and haul it back as fast
I really only have one furling full hoist sail, so it wasn’t that bad. My
genoas are deck sweepers and need the furling drum removed and the jib and
storm jib are not even close to full hoist.
Speaking of, the jib dates to 1973 and the storm jib to 1979. I don’t think
either one has been out of
I have only ever flown my chute asym style with a tacker like setup. To gybe I
let it out ahead of the boat and pull in the sheet on the other side. It is
easy to do single-handed as long as you have really long sheets.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to
Dacron seems to last forever if it is clean dry and out of the sun. My #1
is from around 1990 and looks like new. I've used it twice. PO might have
used it occasionally.
Joel
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:04 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I really only have on
I would say absolutely you can be competitive. I used an asymmetrical for
20 years on my 39, and it was fabulous. About 15 years ago, a race to
Canada,, the sailmaker who made it for me (and also happened to be the
actual originator of the asymmetrical Spinnaker), got stuck in a hole at
the start.
I put Dyneema lashing on the tack to bring my head up to a decent angle.
My ‘Sweet Spot’, is determined by how much of the Halyard splice goes into the
mast, last summer we couldn’t get the darn jib down, and had to go up the mast
to discover it was jammed!
One advantage is the skirting is easi
Bill,
End plate effect.
Dennis had to remind me!
Joel
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 1:32 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I put Dyneema lashing on the tack to bring my head up to a decent angle.
>
> My ‘Sweet Spot’, is determined by how much of the Halyard splice goes i
A great segue to my next question for the list:
I had my last laminate sail (probably 3-5 in total after the past 15+ years)
fall apart after ~ 4-5 years of club use in NC (North 3Di) and have decided
that my next headsail (155%) will NOT be a laminate. I too have old Dacron
sails (90% and 140%)
Just to clarify--you used the regulation spinnaker pole (length = J dimension?)
at the height of the pulpit (and ~ horizontal) and tack the A sail to it, using
the downhaul to keep it from skying.
On my boat and likely on most with symmetric kites, this would have the
outboard pole end 'inside'
That a very good question Charlie
I’m in the process of choosing sails with North sail hopefully it worth my
investment
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 3:09 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> A great segue to my next question for the list:
>
> I had my last laminate sail (pr
I went through 2 North 3DL #1 genoas over 6 years. One good year, one
average year and one lousy year for each sail. The plastic laminate was a
poor product for sure.
I bought the North 3DI raw for my #1 & #3 plus mainsail and they are as new
after 3 full race seasons. A bit more money but over
Yes, regulation J.
In this picture, if it is big enough, looks like the pole was 3 feet above the
pulpit.
https://www.erieyachtclub.org/fleets/race-fleet-home-page
The sailmaker put about a 4 foot pennant on the tack, which I would use when
reaching.
If you can open this, it show it wi
Charlie:
I think we covered this ground in a thread not too long ago.
Unless they’ve improved the product, beware of NorDac. My main is NorDac, and
it’s thick, heavy, and bullet proof. My mainsail cover no longer fits over the
sail. In addition, I had to have it re-cut on
Hi Peter,
Curious, what model boat do you have and where do you sail?
Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C&C 34R Pasadena Md
> On 01/29/2021 3:39 PM Peter Kirkwood via CnC-List
> wrote:
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>
> I went through 2 North 3DL #1 genoas over 6 years. One good year, one
> average year a
Bill –
This is really interesting. Let me know how this works for you and, if you
don’t mind, would you share a sample file?
In the mean time I need to read more on the overall configuration and options
for audio file input. Pretty clever stuff
Thanks,
Pete
From: Bill Colem
Bonjour
For my C&C27-5, I am looking for a mainsail gate that allows the sail slides
to slide past the gate entrance without falling out. The gate is about 7cm
long. Any idea where I can find that?
Jean
Chicoutimi, Canada
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list
my 135 roller furler is a 3DI (Nordac) and I think it's brilliant. Great
shape, great fit first time (which I would like to attribute to my
measuring 5 times).
It's 3 years old and looks like new. I'm careful not to abuse my sails
though I do sail single handed a lot so it sometimes takes a bea
Agree the Nordac fabric performs well. I just like the black cloth!! 😀
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:30 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> my 135 roller furler is a 3DI (Nordac) and I think it's brilliant.
> Great shape, great fit first time (which I would like to attribute
Google “Mainsail Gate”!
sam
C&C 26 Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta
On Jan 29, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Jean Forgues via CnC-List
wrote:
Bonjour
For my C&C27-5, I am looking for a mainsail gate that allows the sail slides to
slide past the gate entrance without falling out. The gate is about 7c
Induced drag?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 29, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill,
>
> End plate effect.
>
> Dennis had to remind me!
>
> Joel
>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 1:32 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List
>> wrote:
>> I put Dyneema lashing on the tack to b
You might be well advised to make it yourself. In Canada, I couldn't find one
for any reasonable price. And when you try having it delivered from the US, the
shipping costs are ridiculous.
Of course YMWV.
Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON
Original message
From: Jean Forgues
I was looking for something like that. Saw an idea for one on the c&c web
page. Then I stopped into the Binnacle and saw a little fitting that screws
into the groove/slot and simply blocks it off. Placed above the groove after
feeding the slides in, keeps them from falling back down and out of
Depends on whether you want the slides/slugs to drop down past the opening or
not. My cover fits much nicer when the mainsail drops down another 4-6 inches,
so I have the gates on mine; I used to have the stop.
I attempted to make my own using a flooring carpet strip. It worked for a week
or
Make something out of plastic? Threaded stainless bolts tapped into the mast to
hold it in place? Two rectangles with a couple of holes drilled through them.
Tap the holes in the mast. Don’t forget to sink the heads. I suspect that
would set you up.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 29, 2021, a
Great photos and speed evidently!
Was your A sail larger than your S kite and what number would you consider
it--A0, A1, A2, etc?
If/when you need to jibe, do you reposition the pole to the other side of the
forestay similar to a usual S-kite jibe? I would think that the forestay would
be at ri
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