my 135 roller furler is a 3DI (Nordac) and I think it's brilliant. Great shape, great fit first time (which I would like to attribute to my measuring 5 times). It's 3 years old and looks like new. I'm careful not to abuse my sails though I do sail single handed a lot so it sometimes takes a beating. Good rep for longevity; we'll see ........... Would have gotten the 3DI raw (black is cool!) or endurance but I don't get enough allowance ..............
Wade Oh Boy 33-2 Lake of the Woods On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 2:39 PM Peter Kirkwood via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I went through 2 North 3DL #1 genoas over 6 years. One good year, one > average year and one lousy year for each sail. The plastic laminate was a > poor product for sure. > > I bought the North 3DI raw for my #1 & #3 plus mainsail and they are as > new after 3 full race seasons. A bit more money but over the long term > they last and perform. And the black sails look cool too :) > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 3:08 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> A great segue to my next question for the list: >> >> I had my last laminate sail (probably 3-5 in total after the past 15+ >> years) fall apart after ~ 4-5 years of club use in NC (North 3Di) and have >> decided that my next headsail (155%) will NOT be a laminate. I too have old >> Dacron sails (90% and 140%) that have not been used much and look/feel like >> new. >> >> My question is--I'd like some opinions from the listers on the material >> and the sail maker. I am thinking of dacron and North (Nordac). >> >> I have had super life out of my Hood main (high denier dacron with >> Vectran), used now for 10 years and still going. However, the headsail they >> sold me was never cut correctly, even after I returned it to the loft--so I >> won't go there, even if Hood still existed.(I think Quantum took over Hood >> after Ted's passing). >> >> I am an active CLUB racer, occasionally doing CRW but very far from >> 'Grand Prix' racing--but I do have a ORC measurement certificate! Most of >> my racing is buoy in the NC sounds where the wind rarely gets above 15 >> knots and the temperature rarely is below 70 degrees when racing. >> >> At the risk of getting as many suggestions as listers (maybe more!), what >> do the listers think about non-laminate sail material, cuts, molded, etc. >> Whatever I settle on will be measured by the sailmaker on the boat. >> >> Charlie Nelson >> Water Phantom >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 11:13 am >> Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question >> >> Dacron seems to last forever if it is clean dry and out of the sun. My >> #1 is from around 1990 and looks like new. I've used it twice. PO might >> have used it occasionally. >> >> Joel >> >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:04 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I really only have one furling full hoist sail, so it wasn’t that bad. My >> genoas are deck sweepers and need the furling drum removed and the jib and >> storm jib are not even close to full hoist. >> Speaking of, the jib dates to 1973 and the storm jib to 1979. I don’t >> think either one has been out of their bags in this century! >> How long do sails last anyway? Maybe they’ll fall apart if used. I don’t >> think the storm jib has more than 1,000 miles total use ever, but its old. >> The old working jib got used plenty back in the day. The last time I had >> that one up was around 1990 in about 50-60 knots running dead downwind. >> That was a fun day 😊 >> Joe >> Coquina >> >> *From:* Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2021 10:53 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Furler question >> >> The perfect solution to the problem Joe! >> >> Depending on the difference between 'too high and too low', finding the >> sweet spot could be a chore and would likely require different shackle >> lengths at the deck level for different sails. >> >> A proper restrainer allows more 'slop' in the effective luff length >> without chewing up the halyard/sheave and prevents the wrapping problem. >> Perhaps not the perfect solution but a good one that works--keeping in mind >> the adage to '...not let the perfect be the enemy of the good..!' >> >> YMMV >> >> Charlie Nelson >> Water Phantom >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >> Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 8:35 am >> Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question >> What I discovered was the overall position of the halyard and top swivel >> was critical. Assuming you have a full hoist sail and no retainer, you need >> to adjust the shackle length at deck level to get the halyard as far up as >> you can without running the nicropress into the sheave. Too high and it >> chews up the halyard and sheave and/or you can’t get correct tension, too >> low and it wraps. >> Joe >> Coquina >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=c07536b5-9fee0f7e-c0751fc2-0cc47adc5fec-809ea6cfc7417437&q=1&e=50f08f83-9314-4d89-be58-e2b081da78ba&u=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.paypal.me%252Fstumurray>Thanks >> - Stu >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks - Stu >> >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks >> - Stu >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu
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