Yes, regulation J. In this picture, if it is big enough, looks like the pole was 3 feet above the pulpit.
https://www.erieyachtclub.org/fleets/race-fleet-home-page The sailmaker put about a 4 foot pennant on the tack, which I would use when reaching. If you can open this, it show it with the pennant only. https://drive.google.com/file/d/16BfCJCujdg653JXzAPWQr3mRtS0k0mw6/view?usp=sharing If I was just going to stick the pole inside the pulpit, I would just tack it to the bow instead of messing with the pole. If I started out with the pennant, and the wind went straight behind, I would use a 4 part downhaul to hold the tack, while I attached the pole to it. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 3:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole Just to clarify--you used the regulation spinnaker pole (length = J dimension?) at the height of the pulpit (and ~ horizontal) and tack the A sail to it, using the downhaul to keep it from skying. On my boat and likely on most with symmetric kites, this would have the outboard pole end 'inside' the bow pulpit and near the forestay--not at the deck level. Correct? Charlie Nelson -----Original Message----- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 11:40 am Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole I would say absolutely you can be competitive. I used an asymmetrical for 20 years on my 39, and it was fabulous. About 15 years ago, a race to Canada,, the sailmaker who made it for me (and also happened to be the actual originator of the asymmetrical Spinnaker), got stuck in a hole at the start. Later on that evening, he asked me how I managed to make tracks on him like that, it looked to him like my Spinnaker was showing in the distance. and I told him that I just put the Spinnaker pole on it! I guess the thought had never occurred to him, as he has quite a nice bowsprit on an Alden 55. The next week, I was down at his loft, and he was downstairs whittling out a whopping wooden Spinnaker pole! And he's been using it ever since. The asymmetrical may not be perfect for dead down wind, but as soon as you come up a little, the advantages are obvious. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 10:38 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I've been following this discussion with interest since we are often either short handed (or short handed where it counts!) as in doing the foredeck dance with a symmetrical kite on my 36'er. All of our local club races are W-L. My question is can I be competitive in the spin fleet with an A3(or other Ax) using the tack or a proper spinnaker pole (not oversized)? The local PHRF has agreed that as long as the A-kite has no more area than the S kite, and it flies from the tack or pole less than so many inches forward of the tack, my rating would not change at least initially. My question for Bob Mann below is then--are you still competitive against full kites using the A3 attached at the tack/bow or the kite pole? Charlie Nelson -----Original Message----- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2021 7:53 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: asail flown from spinnaker pole Do an outside gybe. Trim main, ease spin sheet a lot and let it float forward then bring it over and gybe the main Joel On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 7:42 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: No sock. The board really only wanted to use A3 on races of 25nm or more, where there would be minimal gybing and long legs. I got them to change it to any race so that when we're short-handed we're still able to be competitive against full spinnakers Bob On 01/28/2021 5:58 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I would just go as far as I could, pull the sissy sock down over it and just broad reach into the leeward mark. If there was too much distance, I would then re-set on the other side and pull the sock back up, THAT is why I really want a top-down furler! Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Bob Mann via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 3:57 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Bob Mann Subject: Stus-List asail flown from spinnaker pole The Detroit area OD fleet of 35 mk I's is allowing asails (A3 specifically) this year for the first time ever, but they must be flown from the tack or spinnaker pole. Does anyone know of any videos showing asails flown from a spinnaker pole? I'd especially like to see one being gybed. I've flown an A2 from my tack before, and gybed it, so that's not an issue. I think I have an idea of how it's done using a tack line and spinnaker pole, but I'd like to "see" it done as well. FWIW we do dip-pole gybes. Bob Mann Mystic Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu -- Joel Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. 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