Stus-List Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue

2020-09-29 Thread RLT via CnC-List
Regarding the Keel issue.  If she took a hard grounding, likely rocks you are looking at radiating damage from the point of impact.  My experience was on a J29, hitting a rock solid on the front of the keel.  Stopped us dead from 5 it?s to 0. Keel stub bedding did not let go, but we did have deform

Stus-List Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread djmorris
Any suggestions on how to best and, one hopes economically retrofit a 1975 C&C 30 MK1 for safe LPG storage? Off-the-shelf lockers start in the $1k range and would consume more of a cockpit locker than I'd prefer to surrender. I've yet to see an off-the-transom approach that doesn't rob from the ele

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Jeff Nelson
Yes, I built one for mine.  I made a mold out of plywood, fiberglassed it.  I used a pre-made deck hatch like this one: https://www.amazon.ca/Amarine-made-ACCESS-Marine-Caravan-White/dp/B06XW43PFP/ref=pd_lpo_200_img_2/143-2957886-3052127?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XW43PFP&pd_rd_r=2479d6c9-6b49-409

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread pete.shelquist
I'm not aware of what fuel source you have now, but have you considered CNG? Sometimes a little harder to find a place to fill the tank, but would remove the need for a separate locker. From: djmor...@djma-ltd.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:53 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread djmorris
Hi Jeff. Many thanks for taking the time to respond. May I ask where you mounted the locker? A friend with a 1984 30 MK1 has his locker hanging between his starboard cockpit locker and the transom, accessible from above (i.e. from the cockpit), with a lid that looks very much like an anchor ch

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Ken Heaton
Are you up to cutting a hole in one of the cockpit seats aft of the wheel and building your own locker into that? It is wasted space on the 35 Mk.1 as I remember. You could put one of the skinny tanks in there I think, with perhaps a cover made from the top you cut off the seat to make the openin

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER
Just a thought. A propane locker needs a drain to relieve any heavier than air propane gas, so a gutter around the lid is nice to have but not necessary. Any rain getting into the locker will simply run out the drain. Chuck > On 09/29/2020 8:05 AM djmor...@djma-ltd.com wrote: > > > >

Stus-List Re: Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s

2020-09-29 Thread Matthew
I would not purchase unless someone with expertise took a close look, and I wouldn’t bother with that unless you really like this particular boat. I would also ask the current owner about it. On my 42, I had a gap open up in the same area, although the lead did not appear to be shifted aft. T

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Jeff Nelson
I put mine in starboard locker aft, next to the wheel, slightly aft of it.  Basically, where I could get a large enough section of square seat to fit the hatch cover in. There is enough space below it for me to still wiggle in to gain access to my quadrant. On 2020-09-29 9:05 a.m., djmor...@dj

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Jeff Nelson
As mentioned elsewhere, there isn't a need for a gutter.  Propane is heavier than air so it sinks through the vent in the bottom.  Just need to ensure a tight fit between your manufactured box and the bought lid.  Epoxy will take care of that. I used the bolts to hold it in place while the epoxy

Stus-List Re: [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 1] [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 2] Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Hoyt, Mike
We have CNG on Persistence. While it does eliminate the need for a dedicated propane locker it can be quite a pain to have the tank refilled (Co-incidentally I am doing that today). The tanks are heavy and once empty if you don't have a second tank you have to wait until it is refilled before

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Tom Buscaglia
Why bother with a box? On our 35 MK 1 we went with a rail mount. Had a “T” put in the hose with one hose to the grill and the other to the galley stove. https://flic.kr/p/26vv7To Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On Sep 29, 2020, at 3:53 AM,

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
What he said – buy an aluminum tank, mount it to the stern rail ☺ Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: Tom Buscaglia [mailto:t...@sv-alera.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:45 AM To: Stus-List Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1 Why b

Stus-List Re: Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s

2020-09-29 Thread Doug
Anything can be repaired. It only takes money. Based on the pictures, I can see some glass work required on the outside, and possibly stinger repair on the inside. The bill could easily be 5 to 10 K. Unless you are in love with the boat overall, I'd wake away. Doug Allardyce ~~~_/) _/) ~~~

Stus-List Re: [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 1] [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 2] Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I spend about $3 or so to fill my CNG tanks at the local CNG filling station, if this station did not exist I would have to switch to propane. Paying $75-$100 to exchange CNG tanks at one of the few places that does it would get old fast! The gauge is nice, CNG pressure is linear, propane stays

Stus-List Re: [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 1] [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 2] Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Yeah. I forgot to mention the cost. $0.40 for a fill for me. Plus a $10 service fee. Pretty nice! From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: September 29, 2020 11:48 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Re: [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 1] [SUSPICIOUS MSG: 2] Re: Propane Locker - C&

Stus-List Email subject and trimming

2020-09-29 Thread Stu
Please, please change the subject line to reflect on the email itself. When you see “Suspicious Message 1 – Suspicious Message 2” people are going to be very cautious opening the email. I have to keep reminding people to trim the messages. This is really important when you are replying to some

Stus-List Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread kelly petew
The deck fill caps on my 30-2 require a winch handle to remove. The diesel cap has worn to the point where the winch head [of the handle] no longer fits well. Has anyone found a suitable replacement? I see several possibilities at Defender, but I'm concerned the threading won't match exactly.

Stus-List Fwd: Emails

2020-09-29 Thread Fred Hazzard
-- Forwarded message - From: Fred Hazzard Date: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM Subject: Emails To: Another issue have is that my sent emails that I initiate do not show up on the site until someone responds. Before I learned to look in spam for a response I thought my messages wer

Stus-List Re: Fwd: Emails

2020-09-29 Thread ALAN BERGEN
Mine too. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:49 AM Fred Hazzard wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Fred Hazzard > Date: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM > Subject: Emails > To: > > > Another issue have is that my sent emails

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread ALAN BERGEN
Replace the whole fill with one made of plastic. You won't need a winch handle, and it won't corrode. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:22 AM kelly petew wrote: > The deck fill caps on my 30-2 require a winch handle to remove. The > diesel cap

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread Bill Coleman
The threads are either 1 ¼” (1 5/8” ) NPT or 1 ½” NPT (1 7/8”) I keep a spare 1 ¼” Plastic Pipe Plug from Home Depot in a drawer on the off chance I lose a cap someday. Yours are more likely 1 ½, but check. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA The deck fill caps on my 30-2 require a

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread Marek Dziedzic
The chances that you might find a replacement cap are slim to none. Somehow all the standards have changed since the original were installed. I am in a similar boat; most of my fill caps are worn, not working or temporary. I need to replace all three (water, waste and fuel). Is there a recommen

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER
I found a SS replacement for my diesel fill which was OEM aluminum. $35 and has diesel embossed on it though the picture only shows waste and water. White Water product sold through Marine Guys through Walmart. Chuck > On 09/29/2020 12:21 PM kelly petew wrote: > > > > The deck f

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER
https://www.google.com/search?q=ss+diesel+deck+fill+marine+guys&bih=504&biw=1094&rlz=1C1AWFC_enUS839US839&hl=en&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ0-vm-47sAhVhjOAKHSltCGIQ1TV6BQgBEJAB#spd=7431783077414889366_0 > On 09/29/2020 2:16 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER wrote: > > > I found a SS replacement for m

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap

2020-09-29 Thread Matthew
This spring I replaced water and diesel fuel deck fills. I bought stainless deck fills from Marine Part Depot, which is relatively inexpensive foreign made stuff but was robust and fit the old holes nearly perfectly. They unscrew using one of those bronze spanner wrenches you can buy from Groco.

Stus-List Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s

2020-09-29 Thread Robert Abbott
Brian, Several things to consider:  the keel as it currently exists requires a repairhow extensive we can't tell from the pics alone.  The gaps appear bigger than the usual  'C&C smile'. If it was caused by a hard grounding, there is a chance there is internal structural damage on the st

Stus-List Re: Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap -- THANKS!

2020-09-29 Thread kelly petew
Thx for the link! I’ll check it out. Pete From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 2:17 PM To: Stus-List ; kelly petew Subject: Re: Stus-List Advice for replace/repair of worn Diesel Deck Fill Cap https://www.google.com/search?q=ss+diesel+deck+fill+marine+guys&bih=504&biw=109

Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C&C 30 MK1

2020-09-29 Thread Peter Fell
> > I'm curious .. with the tank on the stern rail as pictured, how are the > ABYC requirements fulfilled? 1. LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment, and safety devices shall be readily accessible, secured for sea conditions, and protected from the weather and against mechanical da