Re: Stus-List C&C 33 Mk II

I have a 1985 33' Mark II fixed keel which I absolutely love. She handles well in most conditions whether we are racing or cruising and when "dialed in" can virtually sail herself. 8 to 15 knots of wind is the sweet spot where she sails best. Definitely not a light air boat but can hang. Downwi

Re: Stus-List C&C 33 Mk II

John, Where are you located? I have a C&C 33-II centerboard version and love her! I'd love to chat with you as we have done just about everything you can to her so know the boat well Perception summers at Newport Yacht Club-Stoney Creek, and winters at 50 Point - where she is now on the h

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Sounds as though you may have found your boat, Mark. The advice to get a good survey is sound. I am a bit concerned about "The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking is not into the hull and is not considered significant. It has had a recent repair but should be reworke

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Get a good survey. I can send you Suhana's survey, it's a lot more thorough and will give you an idea of what you're missing in that one. I purchased Suhana this time of year and she was already laid up for the winter. The deal was made conditional, there was 2k set aside in escrow in case the mot

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Mark, I add my voice to the chorus recommending a survey. I know how it feels when you are spending over $20k on a boat and suddenly everyone starts asking for $200 here and $500 there (I bought a new(er) boat last year). But that $600 will be money well spent. It will either show that most o

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Yea, what Marek said...! -- Original Message -- From: "Marek Dziedzic" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:53:16 -0400 Mark, I add my voice to the chorus recommending a survey. I know how it feels when you are spending over $20k on a boat and suddenly

Re: Stus-List New Boat

I can't even count how much money I've spent in my 2 years of ownership thus far. I don't really want to know to be honest! But at this point I have a boat that's pretty well sorted. That said, a boat ... well, it's not a sound financial decision no matter how you look at it so go nuts! Steve Suh

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Even a brand new boat should be surveyed before closing the deal. It can save you from ending up with a fatally flawed lemon that you will be making payments on, while not being able to use it. This HAPPENS. You can end up paying for and owning a brand new boat that is both unusable and unsella

Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

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Re: Stus-List C&C 33 Mk II

On the C&C photo-album , there is a yachting magazine review of the 33mkII, and it's a center board version that is taken for a sail . Have a read ! Tim From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John McKay Sent: October-28-13 10:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

Well, I went down to the boat on Saturday to get the frame up for the cover. I looked around a bit more and realized just how little room there is up in the V-birth. It seems, in order to get a tank up there, I'm going to be doing some cutting. There is a drawer and cubby on each side where th

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

oh boy, sounds like their is a deeper story here... way too much bling for $8KSoft decks? needs a new keel? New Cushions throughout would be $2500 - $3500 on there own. The vinyl (vinal) teak and holly sole kinda scares me. I saw this at the boat show. reminded me of the peel and stick

Stus-List 2014 Northeast Rendezvous.

Northeasters, I'm asking for a little assistance in getting the word out for our survey that will decide the location of next years event. We received a dozen or so replies in the first couple of days but then it fizzled. Spam spam spam. Facebook, sailing forums, word of mouth, etc. http://fluids

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

My boat must be worth $29.95 at most then :( 1972 C&C sailboat 35ft NEW DEISEL, fuel tank and gauges $8,000-$12,000 here. , cushions redone, $2,000-$,5000 here. head, holding tank new, all new wiring, hatch AC, new vinal teak holly sole floor, sails main jib 110, 130, 160. Bottom done in spri

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

My father used to say that you had to put aside 10% of purchase price of a boat, motorhome, etc... each year for operating costs. Of course he bought new and paid in 1981 81K after instruments, sails, etc for a C&C36 I think with todays boat market those of us with used boats must now put aside

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

could be abandoned at the yard and they are trying to recoup their losses? -- Original Message -- From: "Della Barba, Joe" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:35:18 -0400 My boat must be worth $29.95 at mo

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

V Berth (Birth) Forgive me, Danny, and don't hit me. Smiley face. Whatever. Bill Coleman From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:15 AM To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

A friend sold one here for about the same, but it had the old A-4 and no new wiring or cushions.  I was depressed about that!  Now I'm really down. He was ready to give it to charity. We got to find a way to get younger folks into the sport just so we can sell our boats when they ship us off to t

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

lol...well played... -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Coleman" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:22:50 -0400 V Berth (Birth) Forgive me, Danny, and don’t hit me. Smiley face. Whatever. Bill Coleman From: CnC-List [mailto

Stus-List 2014 NE Rendezvous

II I am starting to look at a 33 Mk II. I am looking for a comfortable boat that races well. From what I can see, this is a nicely appointed boat. I would be interested to hear from anyone who races this yacht. The particular boat that is nearby is a centre board

Stus-List free boats wanted CRYC

The Corsica River Yacht Club is looking for boats. We need 13-16 foot Boston Whalers or similar for patrol boats and/or 12-16 foot RIBs in decent condition. Nothing has to be new or pretty, but it does need to be a usable boat. We have a 501 foundation to run these through for tax purposed and t

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

Danny, Is the platform under the v-berth cushions screwed down? If so, take it up, install the tank and replace it. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:05 AM, "djhaug...@juno.com" wrote: > > Well, > > I went down to the boat on Saturday to get the frame up for the cove

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

No, it is one large piece tabbed to the hull. It has just the one hatch for access. my boat has a "V-birth!" it gives life to it's (its) inhabitants each morning! Imagine what it could give birth to if I really do get the holding tank there... Danny -- Original Message -- Fr

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

Danny, I just got on Touché and looked at the platform. Yup, it's part of the interior pan. Plan B - cut out the platform above the center storage. Use a jigsaw or a multimax vibrating saw. Drop in the tank. Put the cutout back by letting it rest on new wooden cleats under the cut. Just like

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

Dennis, Thanks! Do you think this is preferable to the current location of the bladder tank? There is actually a thru hull I was planning on getting rid of under the starboard settee. It is a transducer of some ancient equipment long abandoned. I guess, as a pro, I could run a hose from the t

Stus-List To the barricades!

For those that are familiar with Sailing Anarchy, there is a thread going on right now on a good boat for singlehanded cruiser/racer. One of the more annoying twits on SA maintains that C&C's are in the Hunter/Catalina league...and cheaply built. Anyone else want to jump on? I have already told him

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

Last time I added it up, mine is worth about 1.5M. On 10/29/2013 2:35 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: My boat must be worth $29.95 at most then:( ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

That boat is sold now. Joe Della Barba -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore Last time I added it up, min

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

Hi Jim you know ... sailingboats / sailing is a little bit like religion, so discussing with someone who is believing in an other god or boat, is ok, if you are in one room and enough beer is available, otherwise I would recommend ... let people believe what they want to believe and enjoye y

Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore

I got as far as checking the cost of return airfare... Steve Thomas -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:43 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 fo

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

You're probably seeing them correctly. Use a water level to confirm. I don't have a problem with bladder tanks. I'd just go with a simple replacement in the existing location. I have a blabber tank on Touché. It's located outboard of the head between the hull and liner. Dennis C. Sent f

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it. George Bernard Shaw On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > For those that are familiar with Sailing Anarchy, th

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

I never knew that was a GBS quote. I had a t-shirt years ago that said "Never Teach a Pig to Sing. It Wastes your Time and Annoys the Pig!" Hmmm... True. Rich > On Oct 29, 2013, at 18:49, Andrew Burton wrote: > > I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, >

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

I thought that was Robert A. Heinlein. In my mind it's not a matter of whether he is infringing on my freedom...which he is, because everyone who believes that a C&C is the same as a Catalina is the same as a Hunter is not going to put a premium on buying *my* boat. I'm standing up for the brand.

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

Some people are dead set against ‎cored decks. They get way too out of sorts about this. C&c's are great boats and a great standard for others to measure againstMike

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

The current resale values of many listed C&C's might suggest that...I am very happy with my old C&C even though her resale value may be low but I have seen enough of the C&C brand to know that all are not equal, some builds have what I consider serious structural issues while others have stood the

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

Easy, Jim. It's bad for your heart:) FWIW. The shop where I had my boat recently repaired said they were amazed that damage was restricted to just the keel itself, the hull/keel joint and the rudder and rudder shaft. There was no damage whatsoever to the hull anywhere. They also said they see al

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

I have always found that people easily understand when I tell them that if sailboats were cars, a Catalina is a Chevy and C&C is a BMW.  I think it's a pretty fair analogy. Bill Bina On 10/29/2013 6:49 PM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: Som

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

I have only been a C&C owner for about 2 years but I get so many people that tell me what a great boat she is, I here things like she is great in a strong wind, If you ever need the 2nd reef in that boat you better be close to home, She not so good in light wind but will fly in 12 to 15. I have pe

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

I have a blabber tank on PShift, but I'm having a hard time finding enough nitrous oxide to fill it. On 29 October 2013 13:40, Dennis C. wrote: > You're probably seeing them correctly. Use a water level to confirm. > > I don't have a problem with bladder tanks. I'd just go with a simple > repla

Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

I thought you kept your blabber tank filled with helium - on the leeward side of course, to offset heel. And when you are blabbing on the VHF it gives your voice that special tone that the coastguard loves! Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-10-29 10:46 PM, Jim Watts wrote: I

Stus-List Skirtlifters

Has anybody heard of a piece of gear called "Skirtlifters" They are some sort of device that is used to bring the foot of the genoa to the inboard side of the lifeline when tacking. Apparently you do not need to have someone on the foredeck to lift the genoa foot over the lifeline in the event o

Re: Stus-List Skirtlifters

Well that wasn't what I expected when I saw the subject line! Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:26 PM, Ted Drossos wrote: Has anybody heard of a piece of gear called "Skirtlifters" They are some sort of device that is used to bring the foot of the genoa to the inboar

Re: Stus-List New Boat

Ok. Thanks for all the advice. With my initial offer I had asked for a $2000 holdback to make sure the engine was running in the spring --- but with the final counter from the seller they are saying "no holdback and no adjustments to purchase price"