Re: Stus-List limber holes pt 2

2013-02-11 Thread dwight veinot
Rick As a matter of interest, is it totally unacceptable to use the term "athwartship stringers" instead of "floors" to describe the situations being discussed lately about limber holes in bilge components of our C&C sailboats? Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay

Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

2013-02-11 Thread jtsails
Russ, On my 38, there are two 24x6 portlights on each side of the cabin. The cabin side at the aft one has very little curve and is easily within the allowance of the Lewmars'. The forward one had approximately 2-3mm (about 1/8") of curve as you described. Even with that much curve, I think th

Re: Stus-List Valentines day gift ideas?

2013-02-11 Thread Frederick G Street
"Fifty Shades of Sailing"? :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:57 PM, jtsails wrote: > I like where this is headed.. think of the possibilities > James > Delaney > C&C 38 MKII > Oriental, NC > ---

Re: Stus-List Valentines day gift ideas?

2013-02-11 Thread Andrew Burton
Did you ever see the Yachting parody? In it they had an ad for the "S&M 40" Featuring barbed wire lifelines and rubber and leather lined bunks...with restraints. Pretty clever. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: > *"Fifty Shades of Sailing"*? :^) >

Re: Stus-List Valentines day gift ideas?

2013-02-11 Thread Edd Schillay
We should all be pretty good with knots . . . . . All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Feb 11, 2013, at 10:40 AM

Re: Stus-List Valentines day gift ideas?

2013-02-11 Thread Joel Aronson
I don't want to know what the bowsprit looked like! Joel On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > Did you ever see the Yachting parody? In it they had an ad for the "S&M > 40" Featuring barbed wire lifelines and rubber and leather lined > bunks...with restraints. > Pretty clever

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread Rick Brass
My comment was mainly to avoid confusion. Joel was talking about putting limber holes in the stringers that keep water from draining into the bilge from the side of the boat, and those aren't even in the bilge proper. Chuck was describing limber holes in the floors that support the mast step keep w

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread dwight veinot
Well, since I have been using the term "athwartship stringers" I was just wondering if technically that would be considered an "oxymoron." I just want to be on the same page as everyone else and yours was the first mention of "floors" that I recall and an internet search enlightened me somewhat on

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Let me see if I get it right: There are "floors" (which I was calling stringers) on the port and starboard side of my mast step. They are hollow glass like an upside down U. The ones on the starboard side have limber holes near the step without any tubing. The floors to port do not have limber h

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Maybe a picture would be better than words: http://www.wavetrain.net/boats-a-gear/275-fiberglass-boatbuilding-internal-hull-structures To be clear: floors run athwartships, stringers run longitudinally the length of the vessel, generally parallel to the keel. In Joel's case, I wouldn't really c

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread dwight veinot
Thanks Joel; that is what I visualized.by the way you can do a Google search and get hits for athwartship stringers. Good luck with whatever you repair: floors or stringers, both have a lot to do with structural integrity. Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread Rick Brass
Thanks for the illustration, Fred, it may reduce the confusion. Joel, you are using the term "stringers" correctly. In Fred's illustration you can see 4 stringers - the U shaped stiffeners that run fore and aft to stiffen the hull. On my boat there are 2 stringers as you have described, but the

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread Joel Aronson
For those who care, I found a picture of the bilge. Its at http://www.facebook.com/Theoffice35. Scroll down and look for the dirty bilge. The mast is at the top of the photo. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Rick Brass wrote: > Thanks for the illustration, Fred, it may reduce the confusion.*

Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers

2013-02-11 Thread dwight veinot
Joel I have looked at the photos. The construction of your 35 MKIII below the cabin sole is substantially different from the 35 MKII. The MKIII has many more athwart ship sections than the MKII and it appears as though the sole is fastened to those sections and that those sections may be holl

Re: Stus-List Valentines day gift ideas?

2013-02-11 Thread Colin Kilgour
One year at Valentine's I suggested that we do "end-for-end" for a change instead of the tried and true "dip pole" method. I'd been hit about 3 times before she realized I was talking about sailing! Cheers Colin On 2/10/13, Joel Aronson wrote: > I suggest a bow thruster but some might take tha

Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle

2013-02-11 Thread Harry
Andy, You have heard correct about Building 1. The good news is MIRAGE was in the back of the building, which remains intact. The building was slated for replacement in the near future as it is the last original building onsite. Nobody was hurt; and aside from the structure, damage was minimal.

Re: Stus-List Handicap review

2013-02-11 Thread Bill Coleman
Jake, I don't think I am usually as aggressive as you, I am guessing, but - (these are on distance races) I normally start out with an A sail on a headsail tack shackle- if the wind comes back, and I believe it will stay back, I will put the pole on the A sail tack and pop the bow shackle, then

Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle

2013-02-11 Thread Bill Coleman
Musta been really wet snow - Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle Andy, You have heard correct about

Re: Stus-List tip clearance

2013-02-11 Thread Bill Coleman
My 3 blade Gori was over pitched, and after a couple emails they took it back . I thought they would reduce the pitch, but they sent it back to Holland or wherever and took a half inch off the diameter, it was perfect. I was afraid they would dis me, but they took care of it. I would suggest that

Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle

2013-02-11 Thread Andrew Burton
Great news, Harry. I'm so glad to hear your lovely boat is unscathed. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:21 PM, "Bill Coleman" wrote: > Musta been really we

Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle

2013-02-11 Thread Harry
Thanks Andy, now we have to do a bit of musical boats to find a new home for it to finish up the job. We took the scaffolding down this morning and should be moved in the morning. Harry -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew

Re: Stus-List Attn: Harry-Miracle

2013-02-11 Thread Harry
Bill, Very wet snow. We didn't get that much on the coast, no more than a foot. It changed to rain after dark on Friday night, then back to snow. It was 46 and rainy today. Harry -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman Se

Re: Stus-List Challenge

2013-02-11 Thread Eric Baumes
Chuck, I will let you know how my spring goes. The boat needs a bunch of fiberglass work to repair the damage from Sandy. The yard says it will be done June 1, but not sure if that will be the case. Thanks for the invitation to come to AC. Notwithstanding the above, I am not sure if I can make it

Re: Stus-List Handicap review

2013-02-11 Thread Jake Brodersen
Bill, I really appreciate the info. About 90% of our racing is all W-L courses. The symmetrical chutes run deep real well. We have one J-105 with an asym. He races all by himself. It doesn't look fun. I can see the value for reaching though. It does do that well. I might consider one for c

Re: Stus-List tip clearance

2013-02-11 Thread Eric Baumes
Chris, What model do you have? I just yanked my Gori 2-blade prop off my 34/36. I put it on last year and when it first went on the boat shook like crazy. I got 100 yards out of the marina, throttled up then turned around. The yard hauled the boat, check the shaft for true, put it back in the wat

Re: Stus-List tip clearance

2013-02-11 Thread cenelson
When my old (15 year with one rebuild) MaxProp was replaced last spring, I went with a Gori 2 blade racing prop which was discounted at the time I bought it. My research showed that it had barely measurable drag. After various discussions with Geoff of AB Marine, I got a 16 x 11 (I think) for