For those who care, I found a picture of the bilge.  Its at
http://www.facebook.com/Theoffice35.  Scroll down and look for the dirty
bilge.  The mast is at the top of the photo.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the illustration, Fred, it may reduce the confusion.****
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> Joel, you are using the term “stringers” correctly. In Fred’s illustration
> you can see 4 stringers – the U shaped stiffeners that run fore and aft to
> stiffen the hull. On my boat there are 2 stringers as you have described,
> but they are about 18 inches to 2 feet out from the centerline of the boat,
> and are not attached to the floors that support the cabin sole and the mast
> step. (I have hoses routed under the sole in the gap between the port
> stringer and the end of the floor.) I presume the gap between the stringers
> and floors is so water trapped in the shallow area forward of the mast step
> can drain into the bilge when the boat is heeled.****
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> In Fred’s illustration there are 3 floors, which set crossways in the
> bilge of the boat and will support the deck. On my 38 I have 3 floors. The
> mast step is sitting on two of them, and they are glassed to the hull ,
> with the aft floor forming what I think of as the bilge sump. I presume
> they are glassed into the bilge to reinforce and stabilize the keel stub
> which  also forms the bilge. There is a third floor, or cross member, a
> couple of feet forward of the companionway steps. It supports a joint in
> the liner, and is not as substantial as the ones under the mast. It spans
> the bilge rather than being glassed into it, so that water from aft
> (stuffing box, etc) can flow forward into the bilge sump.  My bulge pump
> hoses, water heater hoses, bonding wires, and bilge pump power connections
> run under it.****
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> I’m sorry to hear about the water damage to your teak interior. All of my
> teak is either glassed to the hull with a wide band of tape, or sits on top
> of the fiberglass hull liner and is glassed or bolted to the liner. The
> result is that water has to get above the level of the cabin sole before it
> comes in contact with any teak.****
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> Rick Brass ****
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Frederick
> G Street
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 12:14 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List limber holes - now Floors, Frames, and Stringers*
> ***
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> Maybe a picture would be better than words:****
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> http://www.wavetrain.net/boats-a-gear/275-fiberglass-boatbuilding-internal-hull-structures
> ****
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> To be clear: floors run athwartships, stringers run longitudinally the
> length of the vessel, generally parallel to the keel.****
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> In Joel's case, I wouldn't really call these stringers, although they run
> longitudinally; and they're not floors.  They're the longitudinal support
> for the mast step.****
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(*
> ***
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> On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ****
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> Let me see if I get it right:****
>
> There are "floors" (which I was calling stringers) on the port and
> starboard side of my mast step.  They are hollow glass like an upside down
> U.   ****
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