Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
I find that varnish has a classic look that Cetol products cannot match. UV protection for a cabin sole is not an issue. It's all personal preference:) Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-01-31, at 22:36, Joel Aronson wrote: Rich, I want a clear finish. My understanding is that with th

Re: Stus-List Seatalk

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
Brent, out of curiosity, what characteristic of the ST 1000's behavior are you attempting to change? The 1000's compass is generally quite adequate for course maintenance. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-01-31, at 22:53, Brent Driedger wrote: I have an ST1000 tiller pilot that I a

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Pat Nevitt
The biggest disadvantage to varnish is that it gets slippery when wet. How do you keep it from doing that? Additionally, should you ever have to remove it in the future, varnish is a major pain. I have refinished a lot of furniture over the years and varnish was always the worst to remove. On F

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
I'll try it on a scrap. Joel Aronson On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:36 PM, "Dennis C." wrote: Joel, Cetol will take a lng time to completely dry. I used it on a piece of holly teak sole once. 4 days later I installed the piece and stepped on it. Left a permanent shoeprint. Applied another coa

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
Just about every gloss finish gets slippery when wet. I don't find varnish any different and it is not slippery when dry. It sure looks better than most other finishes from my point if view and, if it's tough to remove, I'd say that is a sign of durability, a good thing. Chemical stripping has a

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
Joel I redid the cabin sole on Alianna about 6 years ago. It is teak and holy and it is glued down. I removed the old finish with chemical (methylene chloride gel) stripper and a simple scraper. Then a very light sanding with 220 grit, clean the dust finishing with a solvent wetted rag.

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2013-02-01 Thread Chef2Sail
I am thinking of pulling up the sole and redoing. I have already searched out the flooring and want to begin the process of removing the present sole in its pieces so they can be used to "template" the cuts for the new sole. On Haleakula they are screwed down in most spots by casual observa

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2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
Dave, As you know I am refinishing mine. The whole thing is in my garage and breakfast room. It is screwed down. Most of the screws came out. A used a dremel to grind the head off of 3 or 4. The sole runs under the settee but does not run under the seat if that's your concern. There are almo

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Connon
Joel Aronson wrote: I'm applying epoxy to the topside of the sole using West 105 and 207. I added a couple before/after pictures to facebook.com/theoffice35 under the photo timeline. Next week I'll start applying Cetol to as many board as I can fit into my breakfast rom at one time. Joel Sent f

Stus-List Anybody know this boat?

2013-02-01 Thread David Risch
All, My buddy has put a deposit down (subject of course to a survey) on this boat it looks clean from pictures but I was hoping to get a bit of history on it. Thanks in advance http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/29706 1981 40-2 Davi

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2013-02-01 Thread Tim Goodyear
Dave, My cabin sole is not original (replaced 6 / 7 years ago), but there's one painful aspect of the piece to port under the settee; to remove it I have to either unstep the mast, or dismantle the settee base (the flat immediately under the cushions). Just something to look out for... Tim Mojit

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2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
Tim, Didn't have to do either on my 35/3. Interesting! How do you dismantle the base? I may have to do that to add limber holes. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > Dave, > > My cabin sole is not original (replaced 6 / 7 years ago), but there's one > pai

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2013-02-01 Thread Monty Schumpert
Since the mast is still stepped, I had to remove the port settee base on my 34+. It came off with the removal of about a dozen flat head screws -- a little tight around the sides where the cushions sit and a couple of minor scratches which will be hidden by the cushions. Monty Scandia C&C 34+ A

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2013-02-01 Thread Tim Goodyear
My settee may not be original either. Essentially, there's a flat piece of plywood (with attached fiddles to keep the cushions in place) that's screwed to the fiberglass liner that's attached to the hull. The interference issue is the little "pan-handle" of the board that is to port of the mast.

Re: Stus-List Poly Navicular Morbus - too many boats disease - group confessional session; Keep Turning Left

2013-02-01 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I hate to admit, but I am at 115 ft (6 boats). But I hope to go down one (actually, in negotiations as we speak). This would get me down to only 91 ft. Btw. this calculations give an unfair advantage to kayak owners (they are long (17-22 ft?)). Marek in Ottawa___

Re: Stus-List Poly Navicular Morbus - too many boats disease - group confessional session; Keep Turning Left

2013-02-01 Thread Curtis
62 feet here one 16' mckee cc One Kayak 16' and then my CYC 30 MK1 On 2/1/13, Marek Dziedzic wrote: > I hate to admit, but I am at 115 ft (6 boats). But I hope to go down one > (actually, in negotiations as we speak). This would get me down to only 91 > ft. > > Btw. this calculations give an un

Stus-List C&C project boat

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Della Barba
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Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Burton
Weren't there some here who really liked polyurethane for floorboards? I'd love to see some pics and get some input. I have mine sealed and am trying to decide whether to go that route or stick with varnish, which is what I know, but will take many coats to fill the grain and get the finish I want.

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
Make it too pretty and you and everyone else will have to take their shoes off to enter Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: February 1, 2013 3:15 PM To: cnc-list@cn

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
Dwight, The real problem is that the cushions are going to look even more shabby once the sole is done. I don't sew and new cushions are not in my budget. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM, dwight veinot wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > Make it too pretty and you

Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Abbott
Andy There was a product called 'Ultimate Sole' that did a great job it is/was shiny but not slippery, even when wet. I have heard that it has been discontinued but I bet there a few quarts in someone's inventory somewhere..worth a try to try and find a quart. I put 5 coats of it on

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Abbott
Dwight says mine looks pretty but he doesn't take his shoes off when he goes down below. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/02/01 3:21 PM, dwight veinot wrote: Make it too pretty and you and everyone else will have to take their shoes off to enter Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Burton
Well, of course. You don't have the kind of friend who would wear shoes down below, do you?! : ) Realistically, I plan on having to put a coat on each off season as the dog will leave scratches from her paws. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM, dwight veinot wrote: > ** ** ** **

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
That says it all, we got the same problem with hardwood floors in the house but we love the dog!!! Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: February 1, 2013 3:44 PM To:

Re: Stus-List Poly Navicular Morbus - too many boats disease - group confessional session; Keep Turning Left

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Andersen
123 ft, 8 boats... -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 1:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Poly Navicular Morbus - too many boats disease - group confessional session; Keep Turning

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
Very true, I know Bob to be very meticulous about the seaworthiness, function and appearance of his boat...he uses it a lot but doesn't go too far from home port. I have enjoyed time on board with him and I can attest to the virtues of "ultimate sole". It's hard to accept that a product that is s

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Burton
I'll check around for it. Hope it's still made. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM, dwight veinot wrote: > ** ** ** ** > > Very true, I know Bob to be very meticulous about the seaworthiness, > function and appearance of his boat...he uses it a lot but doesn’t go too > far from

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
It has not been made for several years. Joel On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: > I'll check around for it. Hope it's still made. > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM, dwight veinot < > dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: > >> ** ** ** ** >> >> Very

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
Yeah, but what's he referring to...? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-01, at 15:41, Robert Abbott wrote: Dwight says mine looks pretty but he doesn't take his shoes off when he goes down below. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/02/01 3:21 PM, dwight veinot wrote:

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Joel Aronson
Ultimate Sole has ot been made for several years On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Yeah, but what's he referring to...? > > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-02-01, at 15:41, Robert Abbott wrote: > > Dwight says mine looks pretty but he doesn't take his sh

Re: Stus-List Too many boats disease -group confessional session;

2013-02-01 Thread Gary Nylander
85 from 11 - 30-1, 25 shell, dinghy, and 8 models. Gary - Original Message - From: "Neil Andersen" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Poly Navicular Morbus - too 85 123 ft, 8 boats... -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...

Re: Stus-List Too many boats disease -group confessional session;

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Burton
Models? We're counting models? I think I'm in the thousands, then! Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Gary Nylander wrote: > 85 from 11 - 30-1, 25 shell, dinghy, and 8 models. > > Gary > - Original Message - From: "Neil Andersen" < > neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> > To:

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
Leave it to Rich for a twisted observation!!! He can be comedic at times but we understand his ways, he's a good guy trying to create humour and as we all know God loves laughter Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bou

Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread David Risch
Hi all you North-easterners. As John Read and I organized the 2012 Rendezvous, I was wondering what the interest was of having it again and who wants to step up and carry the ball this time. 1981 40-2 David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Burton
I'll certainly try to be there, but I think I'd like to get a few miles under my C&C's keel before I jump in and volunteer...especially seeing as I've never been to a rendezvous. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Newport On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:07 PM, David Risch wrote: > Hi all you North-easterners. As J

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread Edd Schillay
David, Would LOVE to do it again, though not sure about carrying any balls :) Some suggestions for 2013: 1. Earlier in the season (it was a little chilly at night) 2. Maybe a little closer West? (We did travel the farthest by boat, but Mystic was

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread Edd Schillay
Also, speaking on behalf of everyone, we thought David and John did such an amazing job of organizing the 2012 event that we should happily volunteer them to organize similar events on an annual basis, usque ad mortem. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay

Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
Now I'm really hurt Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-01, at 17:50, dwight veinot wrote: Leave it to Rich for a twisted observation!!! He can be comedic at times but we understand his ways, he’s a good guy trying to create humour and as we all know God loves laughter Dwight Vei

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread David Risch
Thank you Edd but...ugh...be careful what you wish for; 2013-New Bedford, MA 2014 - Portsmouth, NH 2015 - Way-far-away, ME 2016 - Where the hell is that, NS You will need those booster thingys that the Starship had just to get there and back. But if you insist... David F. Risch (401) 419-465

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2013-02-01 Thread Graham Collins
I pulled mine, used them as templates. Where the underside has an angled cut I used a 45 degree angled bit in the router. 2 full sheets. On mine the sole doesn't run under the settee, the only piece that may be pinned in place was a small piece that is around the mast step base. Tip - rough

Re: Stus-List Seatalk

2013-02-01 Thread Brent Driedger
I have found that on one particular tack the 1000 tends to be a little sketchy with its ability to stay on course as its compass goes whacky. It's almost like the units gimbal gets jammed up or something. As a result the course computer decides to make a change based on false compass readings. T

Re: Stus-List Seatalk

2013-02-01 Thread dwight veinot
If you haven't done this, try cleaning the ends of the compass wires and reattaching them to the controller. No problem taking the fluxgate compass apart to have a look, I have done that but there's not much to see or work on and I doubt anything is sticking but it's relatively easy to have a l

Re: Stus-List Seatalk

2013-02-01 Thread Brent Driedger
I would but on the ST1000 opening it up breaks the factory seal for water proofing. Not something i want to do to a deck mounted unit. The first unit I received had a malfunctioning compass and knowing I was sending it back, I took it apart to see how it worked. The compass inside is pretty cool

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2013-02-01 Thread Rick Bushie
This is why I like the hard plastic sole in Anchovy. I replaced the little bilge coverwith new 1/4" marine ply coated with epoxy and 15 coats of varathane. Now I just sweep the pan and scrub with soap and water once a season. Rick Bushie Anchovy 1971 30-1, Hull 1 Worton Creek, MD Sent fro

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread Russ & Melody
I concur Edd. With the talent and experience John & David have to offer, they are the choice of many. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 lower east side, Vancouver Island At 02:23 PM 01/02/2013, you wrote: Also, speaking on behalf of everyone, we thought David and John did

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous...

2013-02-01 Thread John and Maryann Read
Two bits from the other organizer: 1) It was a lot of fun to meet everyone and swap some tall tales - well worth the effort 2) To organize any event takes a few dedicated souls to step forward and a reasonable amount of effort and time 3) Dave and I did our bit - now it is your tu

Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Gallagher
I would like to second the nomination of Dave Risch and John Read to do all the work again this year. If at ain't broke, don't fix it. All in favor say AYE! I will volunteer to take care of getting the dock bar sorted and make sure we have plenty of mixers and ice to get things started. Again, i

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous

2013-02-01 Thread Edd Schillay
Oy!! That's Yom Kippur. (Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were Jewish too, ya know.) All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 |

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Bimini

2013-02-01 Thread Harry
Andy, Ditto Thurston. Steve Thurston just made a new Quantum jib for me…excellent service and pricing. Harry -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-

Stus-List Mirage Primer

2013-02-01 Thread Harry
Hi-build primer applied today.except to the monster blister! http://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/8437334992/in/set-7215763214948701 1 Harry ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous

2013-02-01 Thread Richard N. Bush
I'll chip in here on behalf of those who will not be able to come by boat; my family I and I attended the rendezvous as thoroughly enjoyed meeting everyone, seeing the C&Cs, the tours and the talk by Rob Ball was extraordinary; (I actually came back home and began looking at my boat with new ey

Stus-List Non-Slippery Epifanes

2013-02-01 Thread Bill McNamara
Last season we heat stripped the cabin sole of our '78 34' and re-did it with Epifanes. 7 coats of clear gloss, thinned 25%, then 3 coats Satin Epifanes, also thinned, to kill the gloss and slip hazards. Once the prep work is done, the multiple coats EASILY build protection and fill grain nicely

Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous

2013-02-01 Thread Jim Watts
I'll second that motion. You guys have some catching up to do. http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ On 1 February 2013 20:35, Richard N. Bush wrote: > I'll chip in here on behalf of those who will not be able to come by boat; > my family I and I attended the rendezvous as thoroughly enjoyed meeting

Re: Stus-List Non-Slippery Epifanes

2013-02-01 Thread Rich Knowles
I guess this proves once more that there are as many ways to finish cabin soles as there are boat owners. Maybe I'll try ceramic tile next time around. Cool on the feet and I can work in some nice patterns. Good ballast too. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-02, at 1:02, Bill McNama