Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread Andrew Burton
Nice! That's what I want when I grow up...or maybe I'll just sail south and set an awning instead! Andy C&C 40 #143 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 21, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "djhaug...@

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike
My 0.02 is that you now have a boat that sails a whole lot better than had that extra waterline not been there. The 33-2 is my favourite C&C design under 37 feet. Has a very nicely put togetehr interior as well as very pleasing lines. Mike From: CnC-List [mail

Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread Richard N. Bush
Danny, the cover looks great; you've done a fine job with the Viking. Ther oughta be a book or at least a magazine article in there somewhere! Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message

Re: Stus-List jib tracks

2013-01-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Our J/27 we just added an outer jib track. The forward tracks for #3 are on cabin top and provoide excellent pointing. However when wind comes up boat becomes overpowered and one solution is using an outhauler. We did what one or two other J27s have done and put a second set of tracks on the sid

Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread Chuck S
Wow! I always liked Fairclough covers. They look like a bear to setup the frame, but worth it in the long run, cause the don't rely on stancion for support. Great shots! I played the slide show and you've documented a great deal of work. The pics of the old engine, the pump and thermostat, made

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Kilgour
Couple things at play here. 1. Your 33-2 is about 5" shy of 33' LOA. 2. Interior volume is not necessarily proportional to LOA. (Eg: check out any recent Hunter) 3. You're right about designing to a rule. The LWL on the 33-2 stretches out a bit once the boat is heeled, and that's obviously a g

Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread dwight veinot
Nice cover. From what I read about the valuations of older boats, the cost of a nice cover like that could just about double the value Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@ju

Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Those who live in the Toronto area anyway? I wish they would show a C&C or Tartan at the show but they only bring out the Catalinas, Hunters, Dufours etc. I made off with the customary boat hook and I got a great deal on the discontinued Raymarine ST40 Depth and Speed instruments. Boxing day deal

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Richard N. Bush
Mike, I agree 100%, thanks Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Hoyt, Mike To: cnc-list Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 8:36 am Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on bo

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Steve Thomas
I picked up a couple of blocks from Garhauer and a Garmin GPS 78 from (Radio World?). There was a Garmin rep with the electronics who assured me that my unused Bluechart Americas CD would work with the GPS 78, but an inspection of the Garmin web site seems to contradict this. Hard to tell, since

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread dwight veinot
Hey Steve I think I got that same Garmin Blue Chart Americas cd but unfortunately I installed the charts I purchased on 2 different GPS's already, my gps and a friends, I seem to recall that was all that was allowed, install on 2 devices. I think that you are a wizard with electronics and s

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Rich Knowles
Dwight! Sailors don't cheat! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-01-21, at 10:41, dwight veinot wrote: Hey Steve I think I got that same Garmin Blue Chart Americas cd but unfortunately I installed the charts I purchased on 2 different GPS’s already, my gps and a friends, I seem to rec

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike
No they don;'t .. only about 50 - 75% of sailors cheat when racing From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:48 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List how did you all make o

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Jack Brennan
Rich: What do you call it when Garmin sells you an expensive chart package on CDs, then withdraws support for it so you will be forced to repurchase a new, even more expensive set on a memory card? Garmin also screwed owners of perfectly good older GPSs by declining to provide cords so that th

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Tim Sippel
I concur Tim Toronto From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length Mike

Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread Bill Coleman
Nice Cover! I especially like how pointy the top is , less likely to hold snow. (16 W/steady Snow, Erie)8^( Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:03 AM To: cnc-list@

Re: Stus-List Boat show salesmen

2013-01-21 Thread Chuck S
Sales people: Learned late in life, "A salesman tells you what you to hear." So you can't depend on anything a salesman tells you. They think they are helping you, but they are pretty much just full of shit, and they just can't help themselves, and will say anything to make a sale. Ask to speak

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread
Hmm. Looks as though I opened a can of worms, or Dwight did. There are more examples than any of us can count of changes made by manufacturers and suppliers of equipment, marine and otherwise, that leave owners of previous generations of equipment with devalued or obsolete gear. These changes do

Re: Stus-List Boat show salesmen

2013-01-21 Thread
Sad! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: January 21, 2013 11:24 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat show salesmen Sales people: Learned late in life, "A salesman tells you what you to hear." So you can't depend on anything a s

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread OldSteveH
ights? I went on a weeknight so I likely missed some stuff. Steve C&C 32 Toronto -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130121/8d e5511c/attachment-0001.html> --

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Steve Thomas
Garmin will not issue any more Bluechart unlock codes, whether you pay them or not, as of some time in 2011. I did not know this when I purchased my copy in 2012 at Canadian Tire and got a rain check for a GPS unit that was on sale. The GPS unit never came in and was discontinued. A web search

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Chuck S
Richard, Winter thinking about boat designs: I think boat speed was always a priority for C&C and S2 and J-Boats. Not so with many other brands such as Hunter or Catalina. I don't know that adding a sugar scoop to a boat will guarantee more speed. It definitely will raise slip & winter storage

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread dwight veinot
Sorry Rich.bad choice of words, I assure you that I would never cheat. sounds like Garmin e charts are cheaper now but back when I bought that disk you didn't get much for your money.OTOH the Cmap card for my little Standard Horizon unit which I got before the Garmin blue charts gives a lot mor

Re: Stus-List Winter covers

2013-01-21 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Thanks guys! I'm really happy with the cover. I can easily walk around on deck. The interior shot was me standing straight up on the cock pit locker! The photos are just in order of date taken. I have dreams of a blog maybe...(like I have the time!) I really like using the photos as a refer

Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length

2013-01-21 Thread Richard N. Bush
Chuck, thanks, I think your analysis is what C&C had in mind when they came up with the labeling for the 34/36 and the 37/40, and then the +, C and R designations. They appear to be leaning that way with all of the mid-80s, "II" and "III" boats, (33, 35 and 38); which have longer waterlines an

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Steve, Garmin's Blue Chart (version 7) would load on the GPSMAP 78. There is no problem with compatibility; if anything you may have problems with enabling it for the new unit. If it is the newer version (g2), I would not know. Btw. if you hit a problem with enabling the old version (unlocking

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Rick Brass
Actually, Garmin does sell a USB to RS232 connector. But it’s about $50. You can buy an adapter at Radio Shack, Best Buy, or any other computer store for $10 to $20. And I’m not real pleased that they stopped updating the Bluechart CDs back in late 2008. But then, the devices I have that use

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Wally Bryant
Well, I remember making out at a boat show. It was on a 50+ schooner. She said 'It's been years...have you lost weight?' and I said 'No, still 165, I try to maintain my PHRF rating. It's the shirt. Loose clothing -- the secret to aging gracefully...' ___

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Jack Brennan
Rick: There was an aftermarket serial-to-USB adapter cord for the Garmins that you could buy on eBay and other places, but it stopped working with Windows 7. (Ask me how I know ...) I believe, but don’t know for sure, that other serial-to-USB adapters have a similar problem with newer versions

Stus-List Garmin

2013-01-21 Thread Chuck S
I like my Garmin 640 which came with coastal charts for all US waters. The unit is not too popular, was pricey, but also included roadmaps for US and Canada and has a good screen. I recently paid $100 for an update and that seems ridiculous in that the info is generated by government surveys and

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread Leslie Paal
There is a $10 attachment that converts USB to serial. Leslie Phoenix, C&C32 1983 From: Jack Brennan To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show? Rich:   What do you ca

Re: Stus-List how did you all make out at the boat show?

2013-01-21 Thread
No problem, Dwight. No offense taken or intended. Software, be it apps, charts, maps, music or videos and movies, seems to be a fair target for freely copying and distributing simply because it's possible. I'm a bit sensitive after some time on music recording anti-piracy committees. The amount of

Stus-List GPS's

2013-01-21 Thread Charles Davis
Change subject. "Generic" electronics will eventually force specialized manufactures to provide appropriate value. For example, an iPad with the ActiveCaptain app provides more than adequate and up to date charts and navigation for North America, not to mention the crowd sourced notes on shoaling

Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging

2013-01-21 Thread David Folsom
Hi fellow C&C owners. I am waiting on a quote to replace my corroded spreaders and likely also replace the standing rigging on my 1981 C&C 36. Does anyone know of a source for replacement spreaders? Can anyone tell me about their experience with replacing their standing rigging? thanks Dave Fo

Re: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging

2013-01-21 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
I just did my standing rigging last year with a local guy. http://www.riggingonly.com/ is a good source for hardware maybe they would have some spreaders for you... -- Original Message -- From: David Folsom To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and St

Re: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging

2013-01-21 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Oh and they can replicate your rigging if you ship your current set to them. I understand a lot of people have had good luck with them.I have no affiliation with them what-so-ever. I have been to their shop though. If you were to start the process now, you should have plenty of time to get i

Re: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging

2013-01-21 Thread Wally Bryant
I bought replacement spreaders from South Shore Yachts. Wal David Folsom wrote: Does anyone know of a source for replacement spreaders? ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging

2013-01-21 Thread Lee
Dave,I recently did a complete check of my rod rigging while I had the mast out for repaint. I presume you have rod? Its a little complex disassembling the furler .If you have a Harken Mk 1,I have a diagram (exploded view} and assembly description if you need it. The biggest issue is with dye c