Chuck, thanks, I think your analysis is what C&C had in mind when they came up with the labeling for the 34/36 and the 37/40, and then the +, C and R designations. They appear to be leaning that way with all of the mid-80s, "II" and "III" boats, (33, 35 and 38); which have longer waterlines and shorter "length on deck" measurements.
Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:16 am Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length Richard, Winter thinking about boat designs: I think boat speed was always a priority for C&C and S2 and J-Boats. Not so with many other brands such as Hunter or Catalina. I don't know that adding a sugar scoop to a boat will guarantee more speed. It definitely will raise slip & winter storage fees. I think designers definitely stretched and shrunk hulls to fit a certain market nitch and cost bracket, to sell more boats. Computers (80's) allowed designers more precise planning to eek out more practical use of the interiors and I think the 34plus has the most amazing interior with a separate stall shower and a queen sized bed. The longest waterline boats have plumb bows, but I prefer the look of Rob Ball's C&Cs, form 1969 to 1995. I think a destroyer bow is drier than a plumb bow. The reverse transom lightens the stern, and looks fast. The later ones, the 34/36 and the 37/40 have the window slits angled forward and look fast, at the dock or just sitting on stands. In light air we are fast, but couldn't catch a 21 ft Viper 640, rating the same. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:30:50 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length Mike, I agree 100%, thanks Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 8:36 am Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length My 0.02 is that you now have a boat that sails a whole lot better than had that extra waterline not been there. The 33-2 is my favourite C&C design under 37 feet. Has a very nicely put togetehr interior as well as very pleasing lines. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length This is January armchair stuff I confess, but I have always wondered about the way different boat lengths are listed; I know there has been some discussion about the 37+ which is actually 40 overall; but what really got me wondering was this fall when the local boats were hauled and set on cradles for the winter, my 33-2 was placed right next to a S2 30 of about the same vintage; the rigs were identical, the boats looks very similar on deck, and ths sail area is about the same; (of course the under body of the hull designs were different); but what stood out to me was that the boats were nearly the same except for the reverse stern on the C&C; my theory is that C&C put the extra length on the stern so that when heeled, the boat will have added waterline length and hence be faster; (and they were also designing to maximize the benefits under a rating rule). On the other hand, for day-to-day all around usage it seems that the C&C is a 30 ft boat with 3 extra feet of transom. When I look at the other C&C designs from the same era I see the same trend. I compared the total sail and displacement of several 35 foot boats to the same stats for s 1986 C&C 38-3 and the numbers, while not identical, were surprisingly similar... [Caveat; I am not denigrating any of the boats and absolutely love the C&C designs, I'm on my 3rd ( 25, 29 and current 33-2) and looking a possibly no. 4] Does anyone else see the comparisons or am I just getting cabin fever... pun intended... many thanks. Richard 1987 33-2 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ his List is provided by the C&C Photo Album ttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com nc-l...@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ his List is provided by the C&C Photo Album ttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com nc-l...@cnc-list.com
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