Richard, 
Winter thinking about boat designs: 
I think boat speed was always a priority for C&C and S2 and J-Boats. Not so 
with many other brands such as Hunter or Catalina. I don't know that adding a 
sugar scoop to a boat will guarantee more speed. It definitely will raise slip 
& winter storage fees. I think designers definitely stretched and shrunk hulls 
to fit a certain market nitch and cost bracket, to sell more boats. Computers 
(80's) allowed designers more precise planning to eek out more practical use of 
the interiors and I think the 34plus has the most amazing interior with a 
separate stall shower and a queen sized bed. 

The longest waterline boats have plumb bows, but I prefer the look of Rob 
Ball's C&Cs, form 1969 to 1995. I think a destroyer bow is drier than a plumb 
bow. The reverse transom lightens the stern, and looks fast. The later ones, 
the 34/36 and the 37/40 have the window slits angled forward and look fast, at 
the dock or just sitting on stands. 

In light air we are fast, but couldn't catch a 21 ft Viper 640, rating the 
same. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:30:50 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length 


Mike, I agree 100%, thanks 


Richard 
1987 33-II 


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> 
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 8:36 am 
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length 



My 0.02 is that you now have a boat that sails a whole lot better than had that 
extra waterline not been there. The 33-2 is my favourite C&C design under 37 
feet. Has a very nicely put togetehr interior as well as very pleasing lines. 

Mike 


From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Richard N. 
Bush 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:04 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; possible theory on boat length 



This is January armchair stuff I confess, but I have always wondered about the 
way different boat lengths are listed; I know there has been some discussion 
about the 37+ which is actually 40 overall; but what really got me wondering 
was this fall when the local boats were hauled and set on cradles for the 
winter, my 33-2 was placed right next to a S2 30 of about the same vintage; the 
rigs were identical, the boats looks very similar on deck, and ths sail area is 
about the same; (of course the under body of the hull designs were different); 
but what stood out to me was that the boats were nearly the same except for the 
reverse stern on the C&C; my theory is that C&C put the extra length on the 
stern so that when heeled, the boat will have added waterline length and hence 
be faster; (and they were also designing to maximize the benefits under a 
rating rule). On the other hand, for day-to-day all around usage it seems that 
the C&C is a 30 ft boat with 3 extra feet of transom. When I look at the other 
C&C designs from the same era I see the same trend. I compared the total sail 
and displacement of several 35 foot boats to the same stats for s 1986 C&C 38-3 
and the numbers, while not identical, were surprisingly similar... 
[Caveat; I am not denigrating any of the boats and absolutely love the C&C 
designs, I'm on my 3rd ( 25, 29 and current 33-2) and looking a possibly no. 4] 

Does anyone else see the comparisons or am I just getting cabin fever... pun 
intended... 

many thanks. 


Richard 
1987 33-2 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255 




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