Stus-List deck hatch

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Giannelia
I might have an A&H hatch to sell. I need to check the dimensions, but it was new surplus black anodized, would have served as the main hatch aft of the mast on the 35-2 but decided to refurbish the old one. Hole pattern is a bit different from the original as well ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416)

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement now transom hung

2012-11-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
MArk Where did you get the sleeves for this? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mark G Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement now transom hung Rick,

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Taras Back to one of your roriginal questions 2) This boat also has an additional genoa track closer to the rail. Should this affect the handicap? In most areas moving genoa tracks and other gear on the decks has no affect on handicap. In our area (Nova Scotia) it does not. As a matter of f

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread David Risch
Taras, If I were to buy a "PHRF-Beater" (a boat that easily or more easily sails to its rating) it would be a Frers XX (take your choice). Very anecdotal of course, but I have been told, and witnessed myself, that as a baseline, they seem to have a good rating for their speed. My 2 cents.

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to

2012-11-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Huge steep confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gulf Stream, etc... That was us. Say 15 foot waves from one direction on top of 10 foot swells from another. You got kind of random combinations of little-medium-medium-big-breaker that hit the spreaders on the way do

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to

2012-11-13 Thread Andrew Burton
The 50' seas were spectacular! Brilliant sunshine and the big seas made like being in the mountains. Mind you, it's something I never want to experience again! Andy On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > Huge steep confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gul

Re: Stus-List Fun comparing Phrf Ratings

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Nylander
You would enjoy our sailing. We have two series locally (not counting the bigger Bay races or all the stuff that goes on in Annapolis). Generally light air and rather flat water. Our Wednesday group is divided into three classes, Stars (one design), A and B with the break at 150 PHRF. But we put

Stus-List Asymetrical Spinnaker

2012-11-13 Thread Alan Bergen
One of our yacht club members is a representative for Lee Sails. He has an A-sail that was built for a customer who chose not to buy it after he ordered it. The sail has a 53' luff, and is 1609 square feet. If there is someone on the list who is looking to buy an A-sail, I can send you a picture

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating Now PHRF "Sleepers"

2012-11-13 Thread Ron Casciato
David: The PHRF sleeper category has been around for a long time. Depending on what class you want to sail in: Fast vs Slower You could start with an old Frers 36 built by Carroll MarineUnbeatable in that class.; You could then move down to an Islander 36 tall rigalso tough t

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating Now PHRF "Sleepers"

2012-11-13 Thread Pat Nevitt
While I love C&C's, those Frers are just plain great boats all around - fast, beautifully designed and built and very nice down below. For a PHRF beater, there is a guy locally who has a Santana 21 that he stripped out and optimized for light air on the Bay. He kills everyone with his gift 264 r

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating Now PHRF "Sleepers"

2012-11-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
"has a Santana 21 that he stripped out ... " Stripped out is subject to PHRF penalties. If not reported the skipper could be protested and DSQ Then again - if stripped out means he took off all the excess baggage that most of us carry and took the boat to factory contents then that is a differ

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Fred Hazzard
Newer designs that were not designed to a rating are easier to sail to their rating. The J boats are ones that come to mind. These boats reach and maintain their speed potential fairly easily. The problem with some of these very popular boats is that a lot of very good racers were attracted to t

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating Now just PHRF Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Indigo
One of the factors used in the YRA LIS PHRF region is crew weight. I found that I never raced with more than 6 crew so got a 3 second increase in rating by dropping the crew weight! Jonathan Indigo - 35-III - on the hard in Milford CT _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc

Re: Stus-List Dumb-ass mistake

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
It all works! Upgraded the OS on the plotter. One of the NMEA Tees was bent because of a bad install job by another dumbass. Replaced it, and now the plotter and autopilot are connected! If I select Go To WayPoint (or Cursor) on the plotter, it asks if I want to engage the pilot. On Mon, Nov

Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Several of the panels have delaminated. 1/4 inch plywood would be too thick. Is there a better replacement? Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found a replacement? What glue would you use? Thanks! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided

Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
I'm considering adding an EPIRB or PLB over the winter. I know the EPIRB is registered to the boat and the PLB is not. I know the EPIRB is good for 48 hours, the PLB is good for 24. If I get out of the Bay it will be to New England or possibly Bermuda (in my dreams). Which would you buy? If an

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I am not aware that a PLB cannot be registered to a boat. Are you SURE? The automatic ones are good for a sudden disaster where you are literally diving off the boat in what you are wearing. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tue

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Andrew Frame
I'm open for suggestions for my 24' as well. Strictly coastal, but out of mobile phone range often. On 11/13/2012 01:46 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > I'm considering adding an EPIRB or PLB over the winter. I know the EPIRB > is registered to the boat and the PLB is not. I know the EPIRB is good f

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
A PLB is registered to a human according to the rep at the boat show. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > I am not aware that a PLB cannot be registered to a boat. > > Are you SURE? > > The automatic ones are good for a sudden disaster where you are literally > di

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Andrew, How far offshore do you do? Out of VHF range? On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > A PLB is registered to a human according to the rep at the boat show. > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Della Barba, Joe > wrote: > >> I am not aware that a PLB cannot be register

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Did some checking - apparently the PLB form doesn't have a boat name, but it doesn't really matter. They want a CONTACT NAME so they can call and ask if it is a real distress call. I have thought of leaving the following on my voice mailbox: "If this is the USCG, hang up the damn phone and come g

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
>> We would kick his a-- going to weather in medium to heavy air and some >> sea...<<< PHRF-NW rates Calypso at 90, a Soveral 33 at 93, and a Baba 40 (tall rig) at 165. The Soveral is full race and well sailed (+- 7,000lbs). The Baba is cruise/race and participates in many races both serious

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Sounds good! Joel Aronson On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:08 PM, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote: Did some checking – apparently the PLB form doesn’t have a boat name, but it doesn’t really matter. They want a CONTACT NAME so they can call and ask if it is a real distress call. I have thought of leaving the f

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Martin What is a cruising bottom? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating >> We would kick his a-- goi

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Graham Collins
EPIRBs offer a couple of other benefits - they float upright, and some have strobes. My PLB has to be held upright so the antenna is properly oriented. I guess it depends on your intent - will you be beyond a reasonable 24 hour rescue? Single handed (with PLB attached) or full crew? Graham

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
The new PLBs are catching up: Includes Built-in 406 MHz Signal, GPS Positioning and Super Bright LED Strobe Typical Performance of 30 Hours The World's Smallest/Lightest PLB just got Better. Now it FLOATS! Unless the rescue call goes to my ex, 24 (or 30) hours is enough. If she gets the call, no

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
Ablative paint with small blisters, keel not faired in the last 2 decades, some slime present from lack of cleaning. Or, those little red bumps that itch after sitting in salt water day after day on a long cruise. Martin From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@c

Re: Stus-List Dumb-ass mistake

2012-11-13 Thread Frederick G Street
Good news! Let us know how you like the e7 -- from what I've seen so far, it looks like a great unit. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > It all works! Upgraded the OS on the pl

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Bill Coleman
For what you are doing I would just rent one (or one of each) from BoatUS, then you don't have to worry about obsolescence. Or you could get a DeLorme inReach, with that one you can leave a bread crumb trail, and you have two way communication- it would be nice to have confirmation that so

Re: Stus-List Dumb-ass mistake

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Fred, I've had the E7 all season. It is so much easier to use than the E90. I went from OS 2.x to OS 5.24. It added more connectivity (the BlueTooth/WiFi might work now) and also added zoom in and out from the touch screen instead of just from the dial. Until version 4, it did not work with an

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Indigo
This made me laugh out loud! _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB Did some checking - apparently the PLB form doesn't have a boat na

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Alan Bergen
It might be cost effective to rent one from BoatUS during the times that you need one, rather than buying. Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com C

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
I forgot they rent them. I could buy the PLB and rent the EPIRB as needed . . . On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Alan Bergen wrote: > It might be cost effective to rent one from BoatUS during the times that > you need one, rather than buying. > > Alan Bergen > C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty > Rose City

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
OK - I was afraid you meant "Flaking, peeling, ignored and cratered because I dont care". From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-Lis

Re: Stus-List Dumb-ass mistake

2012-11-13 Thread dwight veinot
Joel Aronson Some of us on this list who do not know you personally would like to know what model C&C you sail.I am one of them.could you tell us please Thanks Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-lis

Re: Stus-List Dumb-ass mistake

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Sorry! 35/3 Keel model Annapolis On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, dwight veinot wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** ** > > Joel Aronson > > ** ** > > Some of us on this list who do not know you personally would like to know > what model C&C you sail…I am one of them…could you tell us please > > **

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Makes sense! I stopped putting out the horseshoe ring while single handing. I didn't think I could grab it as I went over the side! On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM, wwadjo...@aol.com wrote: > Since I single hand a lot, and am never more than 6 hours from land(great > lakes) i went with McMurdo

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
The Seattle Yacht Club Cruiser/Racer class gives rating credits for cruising bottoms, old sails, roller furling, windless/anchor on bow etc. The C/R class was created to increase participation. Non competitive sailors and boats will often show up if the class is relaxed about the starting tacti

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Nylander
For our JAM races we have moved to Pursuit racing. This is a good way to decrease anxiety on the line. We tried adjustments for cruising equipment (dodgers, biminis, BBQ, etc.) but it didn't seem to attract a bunch of newbies. Maybe it is just that we have a limited supply of local boats

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Bill Coleman
Have you tried a free post-race keg of Dogfish IPA? Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 <> Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net -list.com <>___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@c

Re: Stus-List Asymmetrical Spinnaker

2012-11-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
Alan, If the A-sail is light (1/2 oz or ¾ oz) and a race style cut send the info over. If it is all cruise I am less interested. Martin From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:37 AM To: C&

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread dwight veinot
Joel Thanks for letting us know that you have a 35/3.nice boat and a good performer too.We have harnesses and tethers. I wear mine most of the time and always when sailing alone .I need to stay on board.all sail control lines are lead to the cockpit but mostly I sail with headsail only when alo

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Nylander
Yes, but the old timers had it gone by the time we got to shore. We race JAM with a full cooler. and the 30-1 has a big ice box. Gary - Original Message - From: Bill Coleman To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel mod

Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating Now PHRF "Sleepers"

2012-11-13 Thread Tim Goodyear
Is the Pearson Flyer you're referring to Wharf Rat? We beat them in the Scituate Invitational last year, but they beat us to second in the Flip Flop a couple of years ago - they are hard to beat; nicely prepared boat and it doesn't hurt to have a sailmaker as a father... Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branfo

Re: Stus-List Asymetrical Spinnaker

2012-11-13 Thread Bill Connon
Alan Bergen wrote: One of our yacht club members is a representative for Lee Sails. He has an A-sail that was built for a customer who chose not to buy it after he ordered it. The sail has a 53' luff, and is 1609 square feet. If there is someone on the list who is looking to buy an A-sail,

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Jake Brodersen
Joel, I plan on replacing some of mine. I am thinking about using plastic sheeting. I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted the wood. It is only 1/8” thick. ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there using the stock Velcro. I might screw my next set on, as the Velcr

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement now transom hung

2012-11-13 Thread Rick Taillieu
Mark, I had a nylon bushing put in the lower gudgeon a number of years ago. The upper one was OK at the time and would have been a PITA to take off. The lower one is still good but the upper one is worn now. The play isn’t too bad but it is starting to get annoying. Rick Taillieu N

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Joel I replaced mine with 1/8" marine plywood, epoxy coated and then painted with Tremclad "hammered finish" spray in navajo white - blends in perfectly. As Jake mentioned, and you may agree, the velcro does have some issues - mine are pretty good but don't stay tight so I may add a couple

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Jake Something like Starboard? Might check Interstate Plastics. Good idea! Joel Aronson On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: Joel, I plan on replacing some of mine. I am thinking about using plastic sheeting. I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Graham Thanks. I didn't know that is available in1/8 th inch. Time to google! Joel Aronson On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Graham Collins wrote: > Hi Joel > I replaced mine with 1/8" marine plywood, epoxy coated and then painted with > Tremclad "hammered finish" spray in navajo white - blends i

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Ron Casciato
I'd be careful of Starboard...it's heavy for that application even in 1/8" thickness and I don't actually know if it's available thin or in the length dimensions you'd need. The original wood panels used to be called "door skins" and are likely the cover panels of hollow core doors

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Jake Brodersen
Joel, If I go with plastic, I would go to McMaster-Carr. They have everything. One of Wal's favorite shopping places, besides the liquor store! Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Sam Salter
Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/ It's like super industrial strength velcro. It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners b

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Wally Bryant
Joel - I did this ten years ago, and it has held up very well and is light weight. If you have the same kind of panels I do... Wal Joel Aronson wrote: Several of the panels have delaminated. 1/4 inch plywood would be too thi

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Colin Kilgour
I have a 406 Epirb, but no PLB's. Rather than subsitutes for one another, I would look at them as two different types of safety equipment. One is for MOB situations and one is for abandon ship situations. If you think you might go for an unplanned swim, as happened on Bounty this year, Triple St

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement then transom hung now gudgeons

2012-11-13 Thread Mark G
Mike, I think the bushings came from McMaster-Carr or Grainger. I was afraid that if I screwed this up, I either wouldn't get rid of the clunk, or the rudder hinge pin would bind in the gudgeons and make it difficult for me to turn the rudder. Here's what I did, obviously overkill: 1) I have

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement now transom hung now gudgeons

2012-11-13 Thread Mark G
Rick, Having removed and reinstalled the upper gudgeon in my boat last year, and then removed the upper gudgeon from the salvage boat this year, I totally agree. If you got a lot of slop in the gudgeon like I had, and can find the right thin-walled pastic bushing, you can probably install th

Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB

2012-11-13 Thread Hedonistic Values
Me, too!! On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:18 PM, "Indigo" wrote: > This made me laugh out loud! > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della > Barba, Joe > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:08 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List EPIRB/ PLB > > Did

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement now transom hung

2012-11-13 Thread Mark G
Yah, I looked at 30 boats, but some of the earlier ones were Hunters and Catalinas. Only the last 5 or so were C&C 25s. I wouldn't have renamed my boat but it was "Peas and Rice" or "Peas and Carrots" at the time. I was all set to name her Waterslug, submarine lingo for shooting a blank. Th

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Dennis C.
Joel, Not sure what your access panels look like. I replaced the headliner access panels on my 35-1 with some white plastic sheets from mcmaster.com. The sheets were smooth on one side, textured on the other. I think I used 1/8 inch thick. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Mine have vinyl that matches the headliner over plywood. The side panels have screws with covers. Center ones are Velcro. I'll check McMaster. Joel Aronson On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Dennis C." wrote: > Joel, > > Not sure what your access panels look like. I replaced the headliner access