Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread McNamee, Michael
Sounds like the normal aging process to me... :-). Mike -Original Message- From: Wally Bryant [mailto:w...@wbryant.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 Joe wrote: > Every time this co

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread dwight veinot
ear plugs for everyone, really good earplugs; that would do it...and also add to the fun and enjoyment factor Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Joe wrote: > >> Every time this comes up we say we handicap BOA

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread Wally Bryant
Joe wrote: Every time this comes up we say we handicap BOATS, not PEOPLE. Now back in the day I think Kurt Vonnegut wrote a story about handicapping people in order to make everyone equal. Perhaps it would work for sailboat racing. Say, for every 2 years someone has been racing he or she wo

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread Gary Nylander
ual - PHRF with adjustments for non-spinnaker and cruising spinnakers. It seems to be working. Gary St. Michaels MD - Original Message - From: dwight veinot To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was:

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
veinot Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 Whenever race organizers fiddle with well established handicaps to even things out or to produce artificial winners with an honest intent to spread the winning

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread dwight veinot
t; > Regards, > > > > Jim Reinardy > > C&C 30-2 “Firewater” > > Milwaukee, WI > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Brown > *Sent:* Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:40 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike
championship. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 3:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 Our club is an informal racing

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-09 Thread Jim Reinardy
: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 It will be good to get some real life feedback. I see the link for golf style handicaps, and the idea of a recreational PHRF adjustment has been discussed at NYC. Does it help? What are other clubs doing and what works? While the

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-09 Thread Michael Brown
n Heaton To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What Mike has mentioned they are doing in Lunenburg is similar to the following from US Sailing's webpage her

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-08 Thread Ken Heaton
ehalf of Michael Brown > Sent: Wed 11/6/2013 3:29 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 > > Hi Mike, > > those are pretty accurate comments, I would not take them as a rant. > > In the CS30 fleet I see a mix of &

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike
ng to someone that mainly cruises and may not justify the cost of upgrading their sail plan, but otherwise has a boat in good condition and well crewed. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Message: 8 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:39:44 -0400 From: "Hoyt, Mike" To

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Brown
es and may not justify the cost of upgrading their sail plan, but otherwise has a boat in good condition and well crewed. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Message: 8 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:39:44 -0400 From: "Hoyt, Mike" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New bo

Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike
not individual yacht or crew. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Brown Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 11:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30 > I have an old

Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Brown
> I have an old PHRF NE rating for the CS 30 @ 150, compared to the C&C 30 >  rating of 174, which gives you some idea of comparative. PHRF-LO for 2013: CS30 standard keel : 147 FS, 168 NFS CS30 shoal draft :  153 FS, 174 NFS CS30 wing keel   :  153 FS, 174 NFS I have raced a C&C 30-1 ag