Our club is an informal racing group with some social events thrown in.  We 
don’t have a clubhouse and use volunteer racers as committee boats.  We have a 
wide variety of boats in our fleet with PHRF’s from 50 to 250 most years.  This 
makes scoring a real challenge.  For many years, we have used a golf style 
handicap system.  The system and the rationale behind it are described in some 
detail on page 6 of the document below.  

 

http://mastracing.org/documents/Manual.pdf

 

In a nutshell, the 1st three boats lose handicap points after each race, the 
4th place boat stays the same and boats below that gain handicap points.  It 
has proven to have a definite impact on the competition toward the end of the 
year, with most divisions staying competitive to the end.  Every year, we 
discuss it and nobody advocates getting rid of the system.  The debate has been 
whether to reset the handicaps each season.  That is how we do it now, though 
there is a small group that would like to see every boat start the next season 
where they ended the previous one.  

 

The only downside to it that I see is that it provides some disincentive to win 
early.  Several years ago we had a great start to the season, winning the first 
5 races of the season.  With our system, that dropped our PHRF rating 56 points 
during that period. That eventually caught up with us and we did not win 
another race until very late in the season.  We wound up winning the division, 
but it was much closer than it might have been with that kind of start in 
another system.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Brown
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CS 30 PHRF rating - Was: New boat - CS30

 

  It will be good to get some real life feedback.

  I see the link for golf style handicaps, and the idea of a recreational PHRF 
adjustment
has been discussed at NYC. Does it help? What are other clubs doing and what 
works?

  While the NYC has OK turn out for the weeknight racing I see a decline in 
attendance
in most of the PHRF regattas, particularly in the racer/cruiser boats. The peak 
weekday
race night attendance was 83 boats on a Wednesday, about 1/3 do not race PHRF so
we have level divisions for One Designs. There are enough Sharks racing now 
that they
have their own course and committee boat, and usually run two races a night.
Everyone says "what is the problem", but I see most clubs having declining 
attendance
and I would like to get feedback as to what the reasons are. Be proactive!

  The C&C Owners Regatta was cancelled this year, only about 14 boats 
registered. I have
to think there are still a lot more race ( or cruise ) capable boats around 
that could come
out but are not, and it would help to find out why. Maybe something that can be 
fixed.

Might be time to start a thread -

 PHRF challenges - providing a racing venue for older racer / cruisers

  I say this because at NYC we are looking at hosting six or more regattas next 
year,
including the Shark Worlds and 2.4 Meter Worlds. So far all of the regattas are
for One Design boats, and there may be as many as 90 2.4s and 50+ Sharks. At
this moment in the planning stage there is no confirmed race for any PHRF boats.

  With the rumor that the format for the 2014 YYC Levels will be 100% One Design
of fleets of 20 or more ( just a rumor ), one of the last big PHRF attended 
regattas
may be going away. It also does lend an opportunity for NYC to hold a PHRF 
regatta
on the YYC Levels weekend ( end of July ).

  What are racers looking for? The standard twice around windward leeward is 
easy,
should triangular, short course or pursuit races also be offered? Is a wider 
PHRF
range something that people look at that affects their decision to attend? 
Should
the offering have a minimal registration fee and include simple flags, or do 
people
want a live band, buffet, skipper's bag, regalia for the crew ...

  I have to figure this is the right group to ask.

Thanks,

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1




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