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Or, you can chicken jibe, something I believe I will be doing more of in the
future.
Bill
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Since I posted this, I have been doing some research on Cruisers Forum.
THere are a number of people who use the Dutchman, swear by them, have
installed them on multiple boats and would not have a boat without one. I
suspect it is on
Since I posted this, I have been doing some research on Cruisers Forum. THere
are a number of people who use the Dutchman, swear by them, have installed them
on multiple boats and would not have a boat without one. I suspect it is one
of those devices that once you learn how to use it, you fin
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> In my opinion boom brakes are more work and clutter than they are worth. I
> always tend the mainsh
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In my opinion boom brakes are more work and clutter than they are worth. I
always tend the mainsheet when performing a gybe. By tend I mean center the
traveler and pull in the sheet to center the boom. As the gybe occu
I'm another who is leary of boom-brakes. They clutter the decks too much and I
hate a mid boom preventer because it's so easy for them to break the boom in an
accidental gybe or if the end of the boom gets dragged in the water--not
something to worry about with IOR designed C&Cs like my old 40,
In my opinion boom brakes are more work and clutter than they are worth. I
always tend the mainsheet when performing a gybe. By tend I mean center
the traveler and pull in the sheet to center the boom. As the gybe occurs
I quickly release the sheet. On multiple occasions I've seen main sails
po
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:55:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer
Mine goes form mid-boom to the toerail. I have never seen an end-boom
preventer.
I also have a boom brake device I need to rig up one of these days. It does
not prevent a gybe, it just
An update - this is what Josh said already.
Marek
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Actually, they (end boom preventers) do exist.
Some people rig a
when the boom preventer is incorrectly rigged.
Marek
1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON
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Mine goes form mid-b
David, in light winds yes .. it will serve purpose of reducing energy &
injury, if you get hit with boom. In heavy winds... not so much, you
would be badly injured or worse even w boom break.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:08 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
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> Thanks for
Thanks for all the info on preventers. I plan to use the advice to rig one
when spring finally arrives and use it on long downwind cruises. This
discussion also led me to look into boom brakes. I have always been concerned
about getting hit by the boom on a gybe, and being 6’ 3”, it is a part
We used a boom break on DejaVu for offshore racing and it worked great.
Its mid-boom attachment system however not so much a preventer as a break
being applied (think driving your car) to slow down the energy of an
accidental jibe. We used to do intentional jibes at speed with good winds
knowing
When used to pull the genny clew out, that is indeed a barber hauler.
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I keep a similar rig aboard my boat. I keep two lines with SS
I keep a similar rig aboard my boat. I keep two lines with SS carabiners in the
end and I call them "barberhaulers" from some sailing book I read back in the
80's. They can be used to pull the genoa clew out to the toerail or as
preventers attaching to a loop rigged on the boom to the vang fitti
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Mine goes form mid-boom to the toerail. I have never seen an end-boom
preventer.
I also have a boom brake device I need to rig up one of these days. It does
not prevent a gybe, it just makes it sloow
Touche' has a multipurpose line we use as an outboard sheet for the genoa
and as a preventer. It's just a line with a snap shackle on one end.
Our racing main is loose footed. We just wrap the line around the boom
2/3, 3/4 or so of the way out, take it to a snatch block on the toe rail
then back
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I have been thinking aobut rigging a preventer
My rigger advised that a mid boom preventer can break the boom in a bad
enough situation.
My setup is difficult to explain but bear with me. To start, I have a metal
eye projecting out of the boom where the main sheet attaches to the boom.
To this eye I have cow hitched a small continuous loop of
As a follow-up, to gybe we simply disconnect the toe-rail shackle before gybing
as normal. We usually shackle the toe rail end to the boom bail to keep the
preventer temporarily out of the way for the gybe. If it’s blowing (which is
when you really need a preventer), we sheet the main all the
I have a typical 4:1 tackle with snap shackles at both ends and a cam cleat
where the line exits for adjustment (probably Schaefer, and I’m sure Garhauer
makes something similar for less cost). One end snaps onto a boom bail that
holds a block for the main sheet (aft of halfway, but not at the
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To add to the previous replies, I have a mid-boom preventer (think it
came with the boat, it's old) that has two "clamp" devices that each fit
around one side of the boom and have a lip that reaches down into the
bolt rope slot on top of the boom. They both are shackled to a 4:1
tackle that at
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I have been thinking aobut rigging a preventer on my boat so re-read
this old discussion of how people rig
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I have been thinking aobut rigging a preventer on my boat so re-read this old
discussion of how people rig them. End boom attachment sounds preferable, but
I have been thinking aobut rigging a preventer on my boat so re-read this old
discussion of how people rig them. End boom attachment sounds preferable, but
does that have to run outside the shrouds? If so, then you would have to rig
it before letting the main out while you can stlill get to the
2013, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400
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> One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
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> One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
> permanently rigged piece
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> One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
> permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at th
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:45:53 -0300
Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer
I never thought of running
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400
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One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run
forward to the a snap-shackle at the goos
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:45:53 -0300
Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer
I never thought of running the preventer
all the way to the bow. On my 35 MKII which has a high aspect ratio ma
and starboard to the bow and
> back to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. Loads
> can be enormous.
>
> That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe.
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer
One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run
forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way it's easy to ri
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer
One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a
permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the
sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe.
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400
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I ran my preventer from a bail on the (mid) boom forward to a snatch block on
the rail and then back to a cleat on the cabin top - near the side. Some boats
I've been on just use a detachable boom vang which can be released from the
base of the mast and taken to the rail, but I figured you want
Joel,
I think the "too simple" part of your plan is the attachment to the
boom. The sail is attached at the ends (functionally, even if it's got a
bolt rope on the foot), so you would be bending the boom around that
little dyneema loop. Probably breaking the boom.
Your mid-boom sheeting gets awa
) 419-4650 (cell)
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Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as possible--all
the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think abou
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> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
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> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Personally, I like to have one as
The easiest thing is to buy an old rope vang at a nautical yard sale. For my
38. mine is a Garhauer vang using 3/8 line that was originally on my 25.
Attach the upper shackle to the bale for your mainsheet block, and snap the
lower shackle to the toerail near the shrouds. Since you keep it taught w
Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as
possible--all the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think about
the forces on the boom when the preventer stops an accidental gybe; they
are not straight down, which is how the boom is strongest. The forces are
more from t
I put a bail on the end of my boom, so the preventer can be snapped on
from the cockpit. It runs to a block forward and back to the cockpit.
I'll wrap it around a cleat, but normally don't actually cleat it down
because I want it to slip. If the boat rolls far enough for the boom to
hit the
I just move the rope vang over to the toe rail on my little boat, but there is
a real simple method that I have seen used on
larger boats that works well. It consists of a block attached as close as is
practicable to the bow, and a line with a clip on the
end led from the attachment point on the
We run a line that clips on to our vang fitting on the boom to a snatch
block on the rail and then back to winch. This allows for a quick release
when we gybe.
Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or
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