Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Kevin Driscoll
I am in the same boat (pun intended). We have one broken in the aft cabin on our 30mkII. Let me know if you find one Robert or an alternative solution i.e. epoxy. Best, Kevin Kevin Driscoll Portland, Oregon 503 // 875 // 3493 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Robert Gallagher wrote: > Hi

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripe / Redline 41

2014-02-04 Thread Graham Collins
Pics are indeed visible, thanks! Foam core? And how the heck does infusion get the resin through the core? The vacuum is enough to ensure it penetrates? Anyway, looks like a sweet ride. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-02-04 10:40 PM, Will Harris wrote: RE: Boot stripe p

Stus-List Boot Stripe / Redline 41

2014-02-04 Thread Will Harris
RE: Boot stripe painting - get back to work on the Redline Some one asked about the right making tape for stripes. The product you want is 3M Fineline. It is a plastic masking tape that is made just for that purpose. You can get it at any auto body supply store. It is pricy, so only use it

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Jim Reinardy
On my old Catalina, I changed the boot stripe from brown to blue using Brightside. On that boat, there were parts of the stripe in the water most of the time, and every year much of the paint would come off when she got power washed in the fall. I spoke to the Interlux people and they said tha

Stus-List Topsides and bootstripe painting - a long story with a moral

2014-02-04 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
Just relating my experience painting Touche' a couple years ago. Touche' has always been on Lake Pontchartrain and is/was a boat well known in the area. A couple older sailors told me that one of the previous owners had hired the local boatyard's painter over a weekend to paint the boat. Rumor w

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread David Drake
I used the normally available blue masking tape because you can make it curve .That also causes the paint to bleed,I spent a fair bit of time working the edge of the tape down sir have plastic spreader to "try"and seal the edges. That worked okay but not perfectly . Frog tape is reputed the not

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 97, Issue 8

2014-02-04 Thread David Drake
I stripped the entire hull down to gel coat and epoxy primed it with 2 sprayed coats . Painted to the water line with 2part perfection (white) Then painted the red bootstripe ( also Perfection) over the the white. Will is right, paint manufactures do know their products ! Is your boat painted or

Re: Stus-List when to go cruising

2014-02-04 Thread Curtis
I love this response. I will go... I just have to get the last child into college. sell one house keep 2 rented sell one car an move our stuff to a rental unit. and were off Fall 2018 is the goal. Cheers(i'm Going" On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Jimmy Kelly wrote: > go as young as able to

Stus-List when to go cruising

2014-02-04 Thread Jimmy Kelly
go as young as able to afford a reasonable boat...time flys...first cruiser offshore was cnc 25 modified in 74 ...then cnc redline 41 ...have never regreted a moment ...now live ashore in condo but still sail boat regularily...have watched others prepare,,,others dream,,,others plan,,,but never

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 97, Issue 8

2014-02-04 Thread Joel Aronson
Will, Thanks. Now get back to the Redline 41! I see the hull is coming along :)) Joel On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Will Harris wrote: > As part of my job, I talk to a lot of do it yourselfers, helping them out > with projects. I'm coming to the conclusion that one of the most important > d

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 97, Issue 8

2014-02-04 Thread Will Harris
As part of my job, I talk to a lot of do it yourselfers, helping them out with projects. I'm coming to the conclusion that one of the most important differences between us and amateurs is that we follow the directions! I talk to people who had paint fail, or something else not work right, an

Re: Stus-List C&C 41...offshore cnc models

2014-02-04 Thread Frederick G Street
Jimmy — thanks, now I feel better about my boat with respect to that $29,000 C&C40 mentioned earlier… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Jimmy Kelly wrote: > landfall 38...little slower under sail

Stus-List C&C 41...offshore cnc models

2014-02-04 Thread Jimmy Kelly
the rob ball designed 41 is great boat looks...interior but not a great offshore cruiser...not much fun in bigger offshore chop...,will take it but crew will be very uncomfortable.if i were beginning long offshore cruising destinations ..would look for cnc designed newport 41s ...whitby 4

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Edd Schillay
I like how Ken lists the first aid kit as “cruising” stuff. Way too much coddling of our race crews. :-) All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Ken Heaton
Nobody asked but that doesn't stop me. The C&C 37+ (also known as the C&C 37/40+ and by 1993, the C&C 40 Series) Tankage: Tank Capacity, Fuel: 166 litres (37 Imp Gal. - 44 US Gal) Tank Capacity, Water: 299 litres (66 Imp Gal. - 79 US Gal) Bow Tank: 87 litres (19 Imp Gal. - 23 US Gal) Port T

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Chuck S
Brightside: Forgot to mention, I changed our bootstripe in 2007 from red to flag blue. For six years it held up well and I had very few touchups. Then last year, I changed it to black and added two black vinyl tape stripes above it. I was redoing my PoliGlow, so removed most of that 1st. Then

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Edd Schillay
All, I used Brightside last year and had great results. Took me 5 hours to tape and 1 hour to put on two coats. Would recommend four to five coats. Before: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XcgqUheOalQ/T6_QiRA1NQI/Bjs/KGwTke51JOw/s1600/P5120433.JPG After: http://1.b

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Burton
Use 3M Fine Line Tape and press the edge down with a fingernail or the like. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:56 PM, dwight wrote: > I agree with that based on experience with the lines on my 27...and > clean the surface well with solvent...be neat with taping...what is the b

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread dwight
I agree with that based on experience with the lines on my 27.and clean the surface well with solvent.be neat with taping.what is the best tape for this job? _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Drake Sent: February 4, 2014 2:02 PM To: cnc-list@cn

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Chuck S
FWIW, Brightside works fine for me for bootstripe. I can easily touch up any scars in the bootstripe each spring and PoliGlow does an amazing job of making the touchups blend and it all looks brand new. I don't see the value in the two part paints as they need measuring and mixing and if you ad

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread davidrisch75
Steve I have made multiple trips to Bermuda with the flex tank. Zero issues. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Stevan Plavsa Date:02/04/2014 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ontario 38 Thanks for all

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Burton
If you prime it first you should be OK. Call the techs at the company first if you have any doubts. But I'd second using the good LP paints. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > I have seen what Perfection does to a one-part undercoat. It's a good way > to

Stus-List Hand holds

2014-02-04 Thread Bob Hickson
Try Holland Marine Products (HMP) ... they also carry lots of C and C parts http://www.hollandmarine.com/CCfolder/CC001.html Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA C&C 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobh

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Richard N. Bush
Steven could you re-send that link to the Utube for the boat that was on a fishing trip to castle rock somewhere in Florida? Thanks Richard 1985 37 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Stevan P

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Jim Watts
I have seen what Perfection does to a one-part undercoat. It's a good way to waste money and time... Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 4 February 2014 10:25, Joel Aronson wrote: > David, > > The data sheet says not to apply over other paint. Did you ignore that > (as I wo

Re: Stus-List ontario38

2014-02-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
That is awesome feedback Jimmy! Thanks a lot. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Jimmy Kelly wrote: > sailed on ont38 on launch day back in 80s...nice boat well built...owners > sailed n atlantic down to mediterrean...and then to caribean ..lost > track after tha

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Thanks for all the responses everyone, your feedback is much appreciated. There's quite a few of the customs in the 40+ range around here for seemingly little money. I know nothing of the 41 for example except that they seem readily available around here. Any thoughts on the 41? I like the 38mkII a

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread cenelson
By 1993, (when I ordered my 36 XL/kcb), the standard fuel tank on this racer/cruiser was 48 gallons and there were 2 approximately 40 gallon water tanks under the settees. I added another water tank under the V-berth as an option of about 60 gallons. Of course, with all this tankage, there is l

Stus-List ontario38

2014-02-04 Thread Jimmy Kelly
sailed on ont38 on launch day back in 80s...nice boat well built...owners sailed n atlantic down to mediterrean...and then to caribean ..lost track after that but sailmaking company sent them new main to argentina a few years later...they reported boat holding up well with no major problems...

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread j...@svpaws.net
I encourage you but the best laid plans When my wife and I left perfectly good jobs in 2006 to go cruising for a year or so our reasoning was that the time was perfect as we were in the middle of a recession and the market would be recovering when we got back in 2008. Are we smart or what!

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread Joel Aronson
David, The data sheet says not to apply over other paint. Did you ignore that (as I would)? Other than mixing it, is there any difference in the application process? Joel On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, David Drake wrote: > I used to use Brightsides and redid the boots stripe yearly . > Cha

Re: Stus-List boot stripe

2014-02-04 Thread David Drake
I used to use Brightsides and redid the boots stripe yearly . Changed 3 years ago when I painted the boat and did the boots stripe in 2 part Interlux Perfection . I haven't had to redo the stripe since .I would strongly suggest switching to a 2 part paint ,in the end the added work to apply is mo

Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Bob Hickson
I have an original sales brochure from Ontario Yachts dated 1983. They were in business from 1961 to 1983 (or later). They built many boats including the Ontario 32, Ontario 28, Viking 33/34, Viking 28, Gazelle (Viking 22) and a Trawler called the Great Lakes 33 that are shown in the brochure. T

Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Dennis C.
Rob, If you can't epoxy it or find one, consider replacing it with a teak corner rail. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Robert Gallagher >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:07 AM >Subject: Stus-List Hand Holds

Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Edd Schillay
Rob, We had one break on the Enterprise-A, a C&C 34 (they were on the corners of the chart table and the dinette table). We looked quite a bit for a replacement (South Shore Yachts doesn’t appear to sell them), but had great results using some boat-show super epoxy. The fix la

Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Ken Heaton
South Shore Yachts used to show these on their website store. I don't see them now but perhaps a call would be a good idea? South Shore Yachts 1544 Four Mile Creek Road Virgil, Ontario, Canada | L0S1T0 Toll Free 1 866 628-4080 Local 905 468-4340 Fax 905 468-1538 Hours of Operation Monday to Frid

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Burton
Well, the 40 was conceived as a racing boat as well as a cruiser, so the tankage was minimal. In earlier times that capacity would have been right in line. I've been offshore for a week with 6 of us aboard and used less than 50 gallons of water. It goes a long way if you don't use it the way we do

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe
18 gallons of fuel and 70 of water here. I think EVERY non-Landfall C&C is short on tankage and I have the "extra" water tank too. Joe Della Barba C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:02 AM To: cnc-l

Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Joel Aronson
See if South Shore Yachts still has them. I beleivve they are aluminum. Joel On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Robert Gallagher wrote: > Hi All, > > I need to replace one of the interior plastic(?) hand holds that C&C used > as corner molding on their late 80's to 90's boats like the 30 MKII,

Re: Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread dwight
Looks like cast aluminum.should be possible to weld repair that, polish, paint and use again _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gallagher Sent: February 4, 2014 12:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Hand Holds Hi All, I

Stus-List Hand Holds

2014-02-04 Thread Robert Gallagher
Hi All, I need to replace one of the interior plastic(?) hand holds that C&C used as corner molding on their late 80's to 90's boats like the 30 MKII, 34+, etc. Hard to explain but if you have one of these boats you will know what I mean. There is one located on the port side of the shelf that in

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread dwight
Steve C&C boats are beautiful, I am on my fourth one now, so I can't disagree with anything said about the 40 or the LF38 but these boats are also worth a look considering your plans. They don't look like old shoes to me but they do have a traditional appeal and I think they are built well and

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Frederick G Street
While the 40 is a beautiful boat, I’m surprised at the small tankage. My LF38 came stock with 105 gals of water, 35 of fuel, and a 35 gal holding tank. Nothing like the CSY44 (with 400 gals of water and 200 of fuel…), but much more than most C&C’s. Seems like you have to work pretty hard to g

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Burton
Skip is also a very experienced offshore sailor. I like a lot of what he did on Saralane, but most I wouldn't bother with on my boat. I like to windows the way they are, and cutting open the transom and bridgedeck is more of a project than I want to tackle; it would take too much out of my sailing

Re: Stus-List C&C 40, et al, cruising modifications

2014-02-04 Thread Richard N. Bush
Andy, I sat up and took note when you mentioned Sailing Saralane; I have been a fan/follower of their site for a couple of years, since someone, (probably you), recommended it here; I really like what they did to the stern and especially the main saloon windows; I can discern that Skip is a ver

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread David
Steve, I have owned a 40 for 10 years. My comments in red; ...commodious anchor locker, windlass or at least a good place to mount one. The 40 has a large anchor locker and room for a windlass. I saw one installed (next on my list) and it worked fine ...A nice interior that will make the

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Rich Knowles
If a Landfall 38 fits in there, give me a shout. I'm afraid some health things are forcing me to give up sailing. Rich > On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:18, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > I'm meeting with my real estate guy tomorrow morning to start a discussion > about selling the house. I'm not entirely s

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Burton
That's a fun project to contemplate, Steve. And I have to admit, one that has crossed my mind more than once. I am stuck on the 40. I love the way she sails and I love that she fits my budget. Using the 40 as as a long-term cruiser is quite do-able...and in comfort. I think the storage is pretty go

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Frederick G Street
Stevan — that looks a LOT like the LF38; same dimensions. Pretty boat! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to find more information about the Ontario 38. It

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Richard, word (the internet) has it that they went out of business after building 4 of them. Looking further into it though I found out that the company is still around. They aren't building yachts anymore however, they're a fibreglass company and I think they still make dinghies among other things

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I'm meeting with my real estate guy tomorrow morning to start a discussion about selling the house. I'm not entirely serious just yet, but serious enough. I have a chance here to live the dream for at least a few years, what happens after, I don't know. It's a serious *consideration* at this point,

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Richard N. Bush
That's a good looking boat, definitely reminiscent of the C&C lines. I wonder why they only made four of them? Richard 1985 C&C 37 (and 1987 33-II for sale, somewhere under the snow...) Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -

Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Robert Abbott
I am reasonably sure there is an Ontario 38 at out club..it looks to be extremely well equipped for blue water sailing.I don't know who owns it but if you are serious about buying this one, let me know and I will attempt to locate its owner for you. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax

Re: Stus-List Ontario 38

2014-02-04 Thread Curtis
You might reach out to this guy. If he has sold his already. If he is like the rest of us we love to talk about out boats. Shoot! I say, Give him a buzz. Hope this helps. Curt. http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/34019 *905 870 7411* On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Rick Brass wrote: > When