Re: Stus-List Build File

If you want line drawings contact the curator here: http://www.marmuseum.ca/They have a lot of the original C&C drawings.Sam Salter C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta

Stus-List Navy 44s being auctioned

3 Navy 44s are being auctioned on GSA site: http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/gsaauctions/ They are gutted but still they'll make a pretty nice project boat... Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD ___

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

We're talking about young people here, not guys like you and me! Andy Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Nov 1, 2013, at 20:32, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: > Damn, I must be over 50 - I'm leaning towa

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Wow. What a lot of great advice. The weather looks like it may calm some so we will see. I am excited. It looks like I will be short handed. It looks like 3 of us maybe 4. All of us are green. I will leave the dock with the working jib 115% and the 2nd reef in the main. We’ll see how she responds.I

Re: Stus-List Build File

That's a shame about the build file. FWIW, the build files for our boat were very dissapointing. Mostly just hand written lists of parts ordered and typed invoices for the same stuff with items backordered, complaints from weekly inspections about work pending. If I hadn't bought the file long

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Really think about that last point re fuel in your tanks. Nothing will shake up the sludge like being offshore. A few years ago a friend of mine was preparing for the Carib 1500. Their suggested spare parts included 2 dozen spare racor filters. Wish I had listened! John Sent from my iPad

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Damn, I must be over 50 - I'm leaning toward the 12 meter. God I loved those boats. John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: > > I think a few really pretty girls would go further than 12 Metres! > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing? - Dove

I was referring to the US Dove and the associated book(s) which probably got half the sailors in my generation hooked. I had not heard of the Canadian boat - do tell John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Russ & Melody wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > Was this the USA registered

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Curtis, - Observation #1: Heavy weather starts much earlier upwind than downwind. Whatever combination of sails that will be good upwind will be too small downwind. Upwind, nothing is more fun than a real jib especially cut for the weather. Don't forget that 20 knots true becomes 25 knots appare

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Hey Curtis, I've been following along this thread and have seen your great blog.  I sailed out of Sail Harbor Marina, just off the Wilmington River, in Savannah for over 8 years until we moved off the coast and sold the boat.  We had a 1979 C&C 29 MK1, which I think is a very tender boat compar

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing? - Dove

Hi Fred, Was this the USA registered Dove (two boats) with the young skipper that circumnavigated the world 1969 - 1972 or the Canadian registered Dove with the young family that circumnavigated 1972 - 1979? I am interested because I bought the Canadian registered Dove in mid-80s, lying in

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I am thinking on a completely different track than you guys.  I started out as passenger in a sailing canoe, learned to sail on a Sunfish, moved to a Lightning, then Rhodes 19 then OK Dinghy, 505, 470 and on and on.  After 40 years of sailing, I started into the keel boat world.  Dinghys are great.

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I think a few really pretty girls would go further than 12 Metres! Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM, j...@svpaws.net wrote: > So we need a reprint of Dove and then toss in a few really pretty 12 meter > yachts to close the deal? > > John > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 1,

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Joking aside, you want the problem to be "how do I add sail area?" John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2013, at 4:54 PM, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: > > The cruising motto - don't go looking for trouble. It will find you all by > itself. > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 1, 2013,

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

The cruising motto - don't go looking for trouble. It will find you all by itself. John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Curtis wrote: > > I'm kind of new at the big boat thing. I have owned it for 2 years now > and have had some great days sailing but no with any wind really

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

So we need a reprint of Dove and then toss in a few really pretty 12 meter yachts to close the deal? John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > Racing isn't what interested me about sailing to start with. The daydream of > 'sailing away' did, however. I thi

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

In context of a less experienced Capt. and crew I agree with the earlier post recommending starting out under powered. Try the 110% headsail and a single reef in the main (you can have the reef rigged at the dock prior to hoisting). Once you are comfortable with the wind and seas shake the main

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Curtis, It's probably a good opportunity to play with your sail controls as well as just your sail selection to see what works. I presume you're talking about beating into the wind and waves when you're talking about sail options - downwind you'll have the asym and full main up and see how fast y

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

where will you be sailing? I wanna come!!! -- Original Message -- From: "dwight" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List Training weather? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:49:01 -0300 It is easier to change up to more sail in lighter conditions than it is to change down to less sail in heavier con

Re: Stus-List boom goose neck

I bought this part (see link below) last spring as mine was worn. It fitted perfectly (as you would expect). Ken H. On 1 November 2013 15:01, Eric Baumes wrote: > http://www.offshorespars.com/store/boom-parts/12-boom-swivel/ > > > > > __

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

It is easier to change up to more sail in lighter conditions than it is to change down to less sail in heavier conditions...your boat, a 30 MKI I think, is stiff and can handle a full main and No.2 (130-135) headsail but if the wind gets to 20 kts true you will do just as well on a beat with a 110

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Thanks, I was hoping for this kind of feed back. I was not sure on the reefing 1 or 2 I do have both. I dont want to cause trouble if its to much I want to be conservitive. But I do want to push the boat to hull speed. Thanks again On 11/1/13, Frederick G Street wrote: > Curtis — based on my sev

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Racing isn't what interested me about sailing to start with. The daydream of 'sailing away' did, however. I think that the cruising lifestyle has things to offer young people as well but with the way that careers are these days, there's no stability. Young people move from job to job, no vacation t

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Interesting, as I came to sailing NOT through racing, but more from the cruising side. Like many on this list, it seems, I spent a lot of time seeing sailboats around and dreaming of maybe someday having one of my own; and yes, I saw The Dove back in the ‘70s and the romance of that lifestyle m

Re: Stus-List Training weather?

Curtis — based on my seven years’ experience on my 30mkI on Lake Superior, if you start looking at above 15kts, I’d probably go with the 135, with at least one reef in the main (two if you’ve got ‘em) and see how the boat handles things. If it feels over-powered, it probably IS over-powered. I

Stus-List Training weather?

I'm kind of new at the big boat thing. I have owned it for 2 years now and have had some great days sailing but no with any wind really. Well this weekend will offer a cold front with some good wind to practice in Here is what the weather man is calling for. Sat NW winds 15 to 20 kt. Seas 4 to 6 f

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Well I was 13 when we bought Coquina, so she just might make the third generation. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Getting young peopl

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I guess some day many of our younger people might end up inheriting a boat they will call their own. That might get them more involved On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:21 PM, OldSteveH wrote: > It's odd and a little disappointing to hear that the racing program is not > drawing young folks as much. It

Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

The whole Haha fleet should be in Turtle Bay right now, having a pot luck party. (I should have warned Fred about that... the kids hit you up for a dollar to 'watch' your dinghy, then head back to town. Some of them will stay and watch your dinghy float away on the tide... ) The rally schedul

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

It's odd and a little disappointing to hear that the racing program is not drawing young folks as much. It would be my suggestion that for young people racing offers a high level of fun, competition, adrenalin, adventure, etc. as a great way to learn to sail. Somehow the word has to get out to you

Re: Stus-List boom goose neck

http://www.offshorespars.com/store/boom-parts/12-boom-swivel/ ___ "I want 10,000 tough guys, and I want 10,000 soft guys to make the tough guys look tougher! And here's how I want them arrang

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing

> It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. < Calypso's displacement is in the 24,000lb range. I have been told the original Bruckmann built rudder was lost in the early 70's on the way to Bermuda. The replacement rudder may be overbuilt but I do not worry it will fail under any

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing

I can lift my rudder but I wouldn't want to carry it a long way. I'd still want a couple of extra people to help. On 1 November 2013 10:23, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > OTOH I can carry my rudder around myself. It doesn't weigh much. Not sure > if that is good or bad. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina

Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

>... on the C&C44... < He is sailing a C&C 44. Of course he will be OK. Uncomfortable likely, but OK. Tough capable boat and experienced owner. My philosophy (used several times in gales off the US west coast) is to stay away from the land when the NE Pacific gets its nickers in a twist. F

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

It seems that across the board, Junior programs are doing well. The difficulty it seems is transitioning these young folks into life-long sailors. Some question if the junior programs are too heavily focused on racing and not enough on having fun. (Case in point - our local Junior Sailing Associat

Re: Stus-List Buld File

My guess is that they were also tired of having to dig through them to find particular boats every time someone requested a build file. Easily several file cabinets full. Probably broken up, and stuffed in cardboard boxes, making it even more of a chore to find any particular one. It may have

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing

OTOH I can carry my rudder around myself. It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 PM To: cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2013-10-30#Story2 Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed Wally:

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing

> I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder.< When dropping Calypso's rudder (large fiberglass over balsa with 3" dia. SS heavy wall tube shaft) this summer we used 4 to 5 people. My guess is it weighs 200 to 250 lbs. We were just barely able to clear the pavement wi

Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

Wally: Any idea where Fred is now? I don't see his AIS signal anywhere on the map. Where are you located? Do you have an AIS transponder? Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album ht

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

The Corsica River Yacht Club's stated purpose is junior sailing and that is how we got our property granted to us. We do not require membership to take our classes and actively recruit kids for our sailing programs. I am about on my third kid I have got recruited into sailing with us right now.

Re: Stus-List Buld File

I don't think I was on the list back then. I emailed them first thing this morning when I saw this thread and I got a quick response saying that they didn't have them anymore. If I was around back then I think I would have told them to give me all the files rather than throw them in the trash. How

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Toronto Sailing & Canoe Club is a sailing club, not a yacht club. It is the most accessible club in Toronto, I think. Anyone can walk in off the street and crew but our race nights haven't been well attended in recent years. Very solid dinghy racing program that produces some top notch racers, soli

Re: Stus-List Buld File

It's very likely a museum would have no interest in housing them, either. They really are of value only to the owner of the particular boat, and although I have mine, I looked through it once, and then filed it with all my other boat documents. It's nice to have as a curiosity, but it won't cha

Re: Stus-List Buld File

Odd, worthless now, I paid 40 bucks plus for mine. Tim From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:12 AM To: kenhea...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Buld File I just spoke with Rob McLau

Re: Stus-List Buld File

Thats awful... -- Original Message -- From: "Richard N. Bush" To: kenhea...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Buld File Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 11:11:42 -0400 (EDT) I just spoke with Rob McLaughlin of South Shore; he told they threw them in the dump because t

Re: Stus-List Buld File

I just spoke with Rob McLaughlin of South Shore; he told they threw them in the dump because that were of no use to him and proceeded to tell me how worthless they were; I asked why he didn't give them to the Great Lakes museum... he would not answer me... I am thoroughly disgusted that he woul

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Mike, You wrote "Sailing you have to know someone and get an invitation." This is precisely what we have to address - and where I believe Gary Jobsen and Nick Hayes are coming from. Community Sailing Programs go a long way to providing easy (inexpensive) access to sailing. But Clubs have

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

Andy You may have hit on something ... Skiing is easy to take up as a young person. You and a bunch of friends jump in a car and drive top local ski area and then everything is rented. Sailing you have to know someone and get an invitation. Both area expensive - especially when your kids g

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I started skiing when I was 32. I always wanted to ski. What attracted me to the sport was the images--in popular magazines, newspapers, and videos--of experts gliding down hills in deep powder. that and friends talking about how much fun they'd had during winter weekends.Perhaps in addition to tal

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I didn't really start sailing until 2008 in my, ehhh hem, early 40s. However, I was taken sailing a total of about 4 times during the course of my life. I grew up on power boats on long island sound. We would go fishing and camping on the islands off of Norwalk CT, lots of water skiing an

Re: Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

Turtle Bay's a scheduled stop anyway. I assume the rally organizers would delay the fleet until conditions are safe. Cheers, Colin On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Folks - Keep your fingers crossed for Fred Hazzard on the C&C44 Fury, > who's heading down the Baja outside

Stus-List Keep your fingers crossed

Folks - Keep your fingers crossed for Fred Hazzard on the C&C44 Fury, who's heading down the Baja outside with the Haha fleet. They appear to be sailing straight into what may be the last named storm of the season. I'd probably drop out of the rally and sit in Turtle Bay

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I will second Steve's comment. 14 years ago a friend with a Laser 2 was looking for a part and we stopped at a chandlery I remembered from being a kid when Dad paid for boats. Was an ad on the board for a C&C24 for $10,000. I had always assumed that buying a "yacht" with sleeping accommodatio

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

I'm one of the youngest at my club, I'll be 35 this month. I got into sailing at 30. To me, it was always inaccessible. I had no friends or family that sailed growing up so it was never even a remote thought. In my mid twenties I purchased a condo close to the waterfront and that was the eye opener