We're talking about young people here, not guys like you and me! Andy
Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Nov 1, 2013, at 20:32, "j...@svpaws.net" <j...@svpaws.net> wrote: > Damn, I must be over 50 - I'm leaning toward the 12 meter. God I loved those > boats. > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think a few really pretty girls would go further than 12 Metres! >> >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote: >>> So we need a reprint of Dove and then toss in a few really pretty 12 meter >>> yachts to close the deal? >>> >>> John >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Racing isn't what interested me about sailing to start with. The daydream >>>> of 'sailing away' did, however. I think that the cruising lifestyle has >>>> things to offer young people as well but with the way that careers are >>>> these days, there's no stability. Young people move from job to job, no >>>> vacation time or little vacation time and little financial stability. I >>>> work with tech in the higher education sector (though where this train is >>>> going is another question) and I have steady employment. I can afford to >>>> think about next year and the year after, and my plans include a sailboat. >>>> Also, when the zombie apocalypse is upon us I've got a boat and I don't >>>> think zombies can swim. >>>> >>>> On a serious note though, for young people who are into technology and the >>>> spirit of DIY (search "maker culture" on google) an old sailboat has a lot >>>> to offer. I get a lot of satisfaction from working on and improving my >>>> boat. Of course, if it's sunny and breezy, I'de rather be sailing it! >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>>> Toronto >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM, OldSteveH <oldste...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>>> It's odd and a little disappointing to hear that the racing program is not >>>>> drawing young folks as much. It would be my suggestion that for young >>>>> people racing offers a high level of fun, competition, adrenalin, >>>>> adventure, >>>>> etc. as a great way to learn to sail. >>>>> >>>>> Somehow the word has to get out to young folks that there is more to life >>>>> than video games, smartphones and clubbing. >>>>> >>>>> Racing is what did it for me back in 1982-83. Since then I have told >>>>> anyone >>>>> who cared to listen - if you want to learn to sail - go and race. >>>>> >>>>> In our fall racing series at Lions Head I bumped into a young guy, maybe >>>>> 28 >>>>> years old before a race and asked him who he was sailing with. He said he >>>>> was sailing his own boat, a Hughes 29. It was his first year here and I >>>>> just >>>>> met him for the first time. Wow! A young person, just bought a boat and >>>>> now >>>>> going racing! Very cool, but that's just one. How does the sailing >>>>> community >>>>> pass along the torch to younger generations? No easy answer I guess. >>>>> >>>>> I do one thing however for my part - I post on Facebook lots of sailing >>>>> pics >>>>> etc. to family and friends, esp. nieces and nephews. It's like planting >>>>> seeds, maybe someone will see something they like and want to come out. >>>>> Then >>>>> again maybe they just say to themselves "I wish Uncle Steve didn't post >>>>> all >>>>> those sailing pics . . ." ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve Hood >>>>> S/V Diamond Girl >>>>> C&C 34 >>>>> Lions Head ON >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:56:37 -0400 >>>>> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing? >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> <caddevn7pnoquy9brvwmbzbptg0yfvxaxkenhvc1-3dkn1eg...@mail.gmail.com> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>>>> >>>>> Toronto Sailing & Canoe Club is a sailing club, not a yacht club. It is >>>>> the >>>>> most accessible club in Toronto, I think. Anyone can walk in off the >>>>> street >>>>> and crew but our race nights haven't been well attended in recent years. >>>>> Very solid dinghy racing program that produces some top notch racers, >>>>> solid >>>>> youth and adult sailing school and this past year we hosted the Canadian >>>>> national team. Speaking with the older members it seems that there's a lot >>>>> less racing going on these days than there used to be. I took my intro >>>>> dinghy lessons at TS&CC and then my CYA basic ... then I bought that >>>>> Mirage! >>>>> My first time on a keelboat I threw up :( But I came back the next day and >>>>> got back on the horse and learned how to sail a keelboat. The other guy >>>>> that >>>>> threw up that first day didn't come back .. and he talked real big about >>>>> buying a big boat and all. >>>>> >>>>> TS&CC is a small club, inexpensive, no slips, all moorings, not many >>>>> amenities ... but we're accessible. I decided to buy the biggest boat I >>>>> could afford after the Mirage because I felt that a bigger boat just had >>>>> more options. My girlfriend and I talk about sailing off into the sunset >>>>> but >>>>> we're also realistic. I figure if that day comes we could do it on the >>>>> 32 if we had to. Truthfully I would rather do it on a C&C40 but one can't >>>>> have everything. Needless to say, I broke the bank on the boat and while >>>>> I'de like to be at a club with a slip, I love the old non-snobby TS&CC and >>>>> right now I can't afford the 8k or whatever it'll cost me to go to the >>>>> yacht >>>>> club closer to my house .. and have a slip. I do want a slip one day >>>>> though, >>>>> I do a lot of work on my boat and keeping it on a mooring makes that more >>>>> difficult. When maintenance is difficult it's not done as frequently. It's >>>>> also a lot easier to bring guests. Many advantages to having a slip. Our >>>>> anchorage is also not the most sheltered. Boats have broken moorings and >>>>> washed ashore in the past, I've seen it. This is why I'm on the mooring >>>>> committee every year and why I check my moorings and have oversized lines! >>>>> >>>>> What will happen to all the old boats? I don't know. But I've heard all >>>>> the >>>>> clubs on the lake have the same problem .. dwindling numbers. Members are >>>>> getting older and leaving sailing and younger people aren't filling their >>>>> shoes. On our recent cruise to the thousand islands my girlfriend and I >>>>> spent a lot of time chatting with folks on the docks at various clubs .. >>>>> in >>>>> every case we were the youngest .. by far. Most people were retired. She's >>>>> 26 and until she met me, hadn't set foot on a boat. She's sold on the >>>>> sailing thing and I love her for it. You really have to love this thing to >>>>> sacrifice a new car and other opportunities at this age, that's the >>>>> reality. >>>>> Or, maybe I'm just stupid and impulsive :) The fiscally savvy part of me >>>>> tells me to sell the boat but I just hum a tune and ignore it. >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>>>> Toronto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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