Damn, I must be over 50 - I'm leaning toward the 12 meter.  God I loved those 
boats.

John


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> On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think a few really pretty girls would go further than 12 Metres!
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>> So we need a reprint of Dove and then toss in a few really pretty 12 meter 
>> yachts to close the deal?
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Racing isn't what interested me about sailing to start with. The daydream 
>>> of 'sailing away' did, however. I think that the cruising lifestyle has 
>>> things to offer young people as well but with the way that careers are 
>>> these days, there's no stability. Young people move from job to job, no 
>>> vacation time or little vacation time and little financial stability. I 
>>> work with tech in the higher education sector (though where this train is 
>>> going is another question) and I have steady employment. I can afford to 
>>> think about next year and the year after, and my plans include a sailboat. 
>>> Also, when the zombie apocalypse is upon us I've got a boat and I don't 
>>> think zombies can swim. 
>>> 
>>> On a serious note though, for young people who are into technology and the 
>>> spirit of DIY (search "maker culture" on google) an old sailboat has a lot 
>>> to offer. I get a lot of satisfaction from working on and improving my 
>>> boat. Of course, if it's sunny and breezy, I'de rather be sailing it!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C&C 32
>>> Toronto
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM, OldSteveH <oldste...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> It's odd and a little disappointing to hear that the racing program is not
>>>> drawing young folks as much. It would be my suggestion that for young
>>>> people racing offers a high level of fun, competition, adrenalin, 
>>>> adventure,
>>>> etc. as a great way to learn to sail.
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow the word has to get out to young folks that there is more to life
>>>> than video games, smartphones and clubbing.
>>>> 
>>>> Racing is what did it for me back in 1982-83. Since then I have told anyone
>>>> who cared to listen - if you want to learn to sail - go and race.
>>>> 
>>>> In our fall racing series at Lions Head I bumped into a young guy, maybe 28
>>>> years old before a race and asked him who he was sailing with. He said he
>>>> was sailing his own boat, a Hughes 29. It was his first year here and I 
>>>> just
>>>> met him for the first time. Wow! A young person, just bought a boat and now
>>>> going racing! Very cool, but that's just one. How does the sailing 
>>>> community
>>>> pass along the torch to younger generations? No easy answer I guess.
>>>> 
>>>> I do one thing however for my part - I post on Facebook lots of sailing 
>>>> pics
>>>> etc. to family and friends, esp. nieces and nephews. It's like planting
>>>> seeds, maybe someone will see something they like and want to come out. 
>>>> Then
>>>> again maybe they just say to themselves "I wish Uncle Steve didn't post all
>>>> those sailing pics . . ." ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve Hood
>>>> S/V Diamond Girl
>>>> C&C 34
>>>> Lions Head ON
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:56:37 -0400
>>>> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?
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>>>> 
>>>> Toronto Sailing & Canoe Club is a sailing club, not a yacht club. It is the
>>>> most accessible club in Toronto, I think. Anyone can walk in off the street
>>>> and crew but our race nights haven't been well attended in recent years.
>>>> Very solid dinghy racing program that produces some top notch racers, solid
>>>> youth and adult sailing school and this past year we hosted the Canadian
>>>> national team. Speaking with the older members it seems that there's a lot
>>>> less racing going on these days than there used to be. I took my intro
>>>> dinghy lessons at TS&CC and then my CYA basic ... then I bought that 
>>>> Mirage!
>>>> My first time on a keelboat I threw up :( But I came back the next day and
>>>> got back on the horse and learned how to sail a keelboat. The other guy 
>>>> that
>>>> threw up that first day didn't come back .. and he talked real big about
>>>> buying a big boat and all.
>>>> 
>>>> TS&CC is a small club, inexpensive, no slips, all moorings, not many
>>>> amenities ... but we're accessible. I decided to buy the biggest boat I
>>>> could afford after the Mirage because I felt that a bigger boat just had
>>>> more options. My girlfriend and I talk about sailing off into the sunset 
>>>> but
>>>> we're also realistic. I figure if that day comes we could do it on the
>>>> 32 if we had to. Truthfully I would rather do it on a C&C40 but one can't
>>>> have everything. Needless to say, I broke the bank on the boat and while
>>>> I'de like to be at a club with a slip, I love the old non-snobby TS&CC and
>>>> right now I can't afford the 8k or whatever it'll cost me to go to the 
>>>> yacht
>>>> club closer to my house .. and have a slip. I do want a slip one day 
>>>> though,
>>>> I do a lot of work on my boat and keeping it on a mooring makes that more
>>>> difficult. When maintenance is difficult it's not done as frequently. It's
>>>> also a lot easier to bring guests. Many advantages to having a slip. Our
>>>> anchorage is also not the most sheltered. Boats have broken moorings and
>>>> washed ashore in the past, I've seen it. This is why I'm on the mooring
>>>> committee every year and why I check my moorings and have oversized lines!
>>>> 
>>>> What will happen to all the old boats? I don't know. But I've heard all the
>>>> clubs on the lake have the same problem .. dwindling numbers. Members are
>>>> getting older and leaving sailing and younger people aren't filling their
>>>> shoes. On our recent cruise to the thousand islands my girlfriend and I
>>>> spent a lot of time chatting with folks on the docks at various clubs .. in
>>>> every case we were the youngest .. by far. Most people were retired. She's
>>>> 26 and until she met me, hadn't set foot on a boat. She's sold on the
>>>> sailing thing and I love her for it. You really have to love this thing to
>>>> sacrifice a new car and other opportunities at this age, that's the 
>>>> reality.
>>>> Or, maybe I'm just stupid and impulsive :) The fiscally savvy part of me
>>>> tells me to sell the boat but I just hum a tune and ignore it.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> Suhana, C&C 32
>>>> Toronto
>>>> 
>>>> 
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