Re: Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
Chain of any sort is an aftermarket extra. 50' of 1/4" yellow poly is the best you can hope for. On 30 October 2013 19:42, j...@svpaws.net wrote: > Ah, must be standard equipment on those low quality C&C's > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > G

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Russ & Melody
And the caveat to that is, "If it's got tits, tires or a transom... it's going to give you trouble." Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:50 PM 30/10/2013, you wrote: Well, the old saying..."If it flies, floats, or f__ks, rent it." keeps coming up. Doesn't work for me, but it's

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
Well, the old saying..."If it flies, floats, or f__ks, rent it." keeps coming up. Doesn't work for me, but it's a mantra for some. On 30 October 2013 19:20, Rick Brass wrote: > Now that I think of it, I could’ve bought a real nice SWAN for what my > support payments totaled. Kind of puts the co

Re: Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Ah, must be standard equipment on those low quality C&C's John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > G3 is the stuff they sell at Canadian Tire for hanging lamps and stuff. Comes > in brass and antique bronze. It's part of the "turnkey pak" for Bayliners. >

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Rick Brass
Now that I think of it, I could've bought a real nice SWAN for what my support payments totaled. Kind of puts the cost of boat ownership in a new perspective. As the saying goes: A boat is like a mistress. You have her because you love her, she will take ALL your money, and . I guess the di

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

2013-10-30 Thread Andrew Burton
Really, I don't think the problem of getting the next generation into sailing is one of cost...though it might be one of perceived cost. Someone with a pretty low budget can get a good boat like the 35 advertised and make it work for them for a long time with little investment. When I was young.

Re: Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
G3 is the stuff they sell at Canadian Tire for hanging lamps and stuff. Comes in brass and antique bronze. It's part of the "turnkey pak" for Bayliners. On 30 October 2013 17:42, Rich Knowles wrote: > 3..? > > Rich > > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 20:51, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: > > > > I'm sure I kn

Re: Stus-List Marine Canvas Shops in Halifax, NS

2013-10-30 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Ken Maritime Canvas Converters is reputable. Or if you have a half decent sewing machine it is very easy to do it yourself, Sailrite sells the materials and I can shoot you a short article I did a while back on replacing a window in a dodger... Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11

Stus-List Marine Canvas Shops in Halifax, NS

2013-10-30 Thread Ken Heaton
It is time to get the Strataglass windows in our dodger replaced. One of them cracked this fall when it got bent a bit more than it should. I'm looking for recommendations from CnC listers in the Nova Scotia area for a Marine Canvas shop to do the work. I know there are a few in the area but I'v

Re: Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
3..? Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 20:51, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: > > I'm sure I knew this at some point in my life but can anyone explain the > difference between G40 and G43 chain? > > Thanks > > John > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C

Re: Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread Dennis C.
G43 - G40 = G03.  :) Not 100% sure but I think G43 is industrial or trucking chain.  G40 is windlass chain. Dennis C. On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:52 PM, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: I'm sure I knew this at some point in my life but can anyone explain the difference between G40 and G43

Re: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

2013-10-30 Thread Indigo
Chuck, >From what I have seen the "younger generation" that own cruising boats seem to have income levels / life styles that allow / require them to pay the yards for the work to be done. Clearly this is not the 99% However, I firmly believe that both Gary Jobson and Nick Hayes are spot on w

Stus-List Chain help

2013-10-30 Thread j...@svpaws.net
I'm sure I knew this at some point in my life but can anyone explain the difference between G40 and G43 chain? Thanks John ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Rich's keel repair (subject change)

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Great. I'll get there as soon as I can. 8:15 ish. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 19:24, Graham Collins wrote: > > Who is doing the work Rich? > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > >> On 2013-10-30 11:48 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: >> Nope. The bolts were perfect. They do/did great wor

Re: Stus-List Rich's keel repair (subject change)

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
SeaPro in Burnside. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 19:24, Graham Collins wrote: > > Who is doing the work Rich? > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > >> On 2013-10-30 11:48 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: >> Nope. The bolts were perfect. They do/did great work. It was a tough one. >> >>

Stus-List Rich's keel repair (subject change)

2013-10-30 Thread Graham Collins
Who is doing the work Rich? Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-10-30 11:48 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: Nope. The bolts were perfect. They do/did great work. It was a tough one. Rich On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:12, "Bill Coleman" wrote: I hope they didn't heat them to a point where t

Stus-List Sprit Decision

2013-10-30 Thread TOM VINCENT
Pete, Last year I purchased a Sparcraft bowsprit in aluminum, unfortunately there was no way to install the unit and I returned it. They also make the sprit in Carbon, it is much more expensive. There are several companies that I spoke to before deciding on the Sparcraft. Selden and Forespar ar

Re: Stus-List sprit decision...this is getting serious

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Reinardy
Pete, You might try Forte, http://fortecarbon.com I have one of their spinnaker poles that has served me very well, and I notice that they have bare pole stock as well. Regards, Jim Reinardy C&C 30-2 "Firewater" Milwaukee, WI Sent from my iPad > On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Pete Shelquis

Stus-List Getting young people into sailing?

2013-10-30 Thread Chuck S
Yes, we need to get younger people into sailing and cruising and racing. How can that be done? I noticed at my boatyard or at the dock, I'm probably the youngest boatowner working on any sailboat and I'll be 60 next summer. There is one 30 year old who bought a desperation sale Hunter last Spr

Re: Stus-List sprit decision...this is getting serious

2013-10-30 Thread niall buckley
Heavy? I made mine from stainless steel!!! Works great and a lot lighter than the other things up front e.g. anchor and 200 ft of chain. If you do find a source of the CF tube I'd love to know about it. Niall On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Pete Shelquist wrote: > I’m still exploring the additi

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread niall buckley
I Love the Quote. I'll check the GBS connection (just for verification). My C&C is a 1988 C&C 41 with a wing keel. She is a very tough boat and sails very well in anything from 7 knots or so and up to 20+ (apparent) without reefing the main. As to the SA guy , f..k the begrudgers. Niall niall.j.buc

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
If you turn on the key switch and put a voltmeter between the wire to the o/p sensor and ground, there should be 12V approx there. If there is voltage and you ground the wire, the buzzer should activate. If there is no voltage check the other end of the wire and chase the problem from there. The

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Curtis
Understood Bill, I know the buzzer works and that it has power to it. " ONLY" I will ground the lead to the switch and see if it sounds key position on but engine off. It it sounds that tells me the wire and led and buzzer is good and the switch is faulty. Thanks again guys. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
But it does eliminate the buzzer itself as a potential problem... On 30 October 2013 11:32, wrote: > ** > Careful about that assumption. According to the Yanmar rep. that I spoke > to at the Annapolis Sailboat Show, that switch only tests the light and > buzzer by supplying power to them. It DO

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Briard6
Careful about that assumption. According to the Yanmar rep. that I spoke to at the Annapolis Sailboat Show, that switch only tests the light and buzzer by supplying power to them. It DOES NOT check the entire circuit to the sensor/switch. Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 In a message dated 10/

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Lisa Lias
We weren't on this list before we got our boat, but to address an earlier concern, of all the resources we used when making a choice about what brand to buy, sailing anarchy wasn't the least, it was non-existent. That's not so much a put down of sa as much as a reflection of the fact that when

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Yup. That's what I though. R On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jim Watts wrote: OP said the buzzer worked with the test switch...so far we are assuming he didn't just imagine the whole thing. On 30 October 2013 10:46, Rich Knowles wrote: True statement. I suggested earlier that if it does

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
OP said the buzzer worked with the test switch...so far we are assuming he didn't just imagine the whole thing. On 30 October 2013 10:46, Rich Knowles wrote: > True statement. I suggested earlier that if it does not sound when the > wire is grounded the problem is elsewhere. > > A resistance/co

Re: Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
True statement. I suggested earlier that if it does not sound when the wire is grounded the problem is elsewhere. A resistance/continuity check across the sensor will quickly tell if it's faulty. No oil pressure should yield a direct short. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 14:36, Bob Dryer wrote:

Stus-List Buzzer

2013-10-30 Thread Bob Dryer
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:47:08 -0300 From: Rich Knowles To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender. Message-ID: <0e3b7b13-bc0f-452f-a0d7-ddbe3fbea...@sailpower.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yes. The sensor connects the wi

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Isn’t it one of the reasons why many of us frequent this list? Especially, since some do not even have a C&C boat (yet or anymore). Marek (in Ottawa, on the hard for 4 weeks already) Message: 5 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:08:30 -0400 From: "Rick Brass" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List To the barrica

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Mark said: AMEN to that brother! and you can buy insurance for the boat... ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
We'll, I've not been able to find a grandpa willing to fund my new "candy" Guess I'm on the hook for the bill! I still find it a little ironic - I wouldn't make an offer to buy a boat (which as noted is simply never a good decision financially) u

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike
i would rather be the kid in the candy store with grand dad buying the candy! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Th

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic
This is why you want to have someone with you who is not overly interested in the outcome. Usually a surveyor is more pessimistic than you are (which you want). I know that I cannot be objective, when I am buying something like a boat (or a car) for myself. The kid in a candy store is a good pa

Re: Stus-List sprit decision...this is getting serious

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
Forespar would probably be able to supply a raw tube, but it isn't going to be cheap. They fabricate untapered tubes up to 4.5" On 30 October 2013 09:02, Pete Shelquist wrote: > I’m still exploring the addition of a sprit off my foredeck. Does anyone > have a source for a *4”ID x ¼” wall thick

Re: Stus-List sprit decision...this is getting serious

2013-10-30 Thread Tim Sippel
I just received a west marine e-mail (50% of on purchase of $300)... aluminum tubing on sale... http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=14562&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50045&subdeptNum=50078&classNum=50079 not a west marine fan ,

Stus-List sprit decision...this is getting serious

2013-10-30 Thread Pete Shelquist
I’m still exploring the addition of a sprit off my foredeck. Does anyone have a source for a 4”ID x ¼” wall thickness x 10’-12’ carbon fiber pole? 12’ gives us a little wiggle room. Yes, aluminum is an option, but will weigh a ton. But for this experiment I’ll try it for the right price.

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
Rick, I can understand your (and most peoples') concerns with SA. I usually hang out in the gentler parts, like Cruising Anarchy and Fix-it Anarchy, where there is some mutual respect. It's a lot different from the clowns in Sailing Anarchy and the participants police it pretty well. And of course,

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Nope. The bolts were perfect. They do/did great work. It was a tough one. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:12, "Bill Coleman" wrote: > > I hope they didn't heat them to a point where there was any color (colour) > on them, or the chrome will be gone and they may rust. > > Bill Coleman > C&C 39

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Typical SA poster *crews* on a carbon sail race boat and likes to insult boats that he could never afford to OWN in the first place. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:09 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Jack Brennan
It's relatively easy to install real oil pressure and temp gauges on a Yanmar 2GM20. I rehabbed the unused A4 gauges that were on my current boat so that they worked with the diesel. Mostly, it involves installing new sensors on the engine, which doesn't cost much, then running new wiring. I'd

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Bill Coleman
I hope they didn't heat them to a point where there was any color (colour) on them, or the chrome will be gone and they may rust. Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:4

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Rick Brass
I dropped out of SA a number of years ago. I came to realize that the most vocal contributors on SA are generally those who have the least knowledge and experience. The last straw was a Yahoo who claimed to have a Newport 41 (I owned my C&C 25 and a Newport 28 at the time) and to have done successi

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Yes. The sensor connects the wire to ground when there is no oil pressure and that sounds the buzzer. If the sensor is defective, it will not connect the wire to ground and the buzzer will not sound. So... If you connect the wire to ground, you are doing what the sensor should do, and the buzz

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Bill Bina
Connecting through a meter is not the same as connecting the wire directly to ground. Bill Bina On 10/30/2013 9:15 AM, Curtis wrote: Help On 10/30/13, Curtis wrote: Perfect. Thats just what I need. Last night I was at the boat I cranked the engine and took the wire off the end of the sende

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Curtis
"to connect the wire on the sensor to the engine block. The buzzer should sound. If it does sound, the sensor is faulty. If there is still no buzzer, you have some other wiring problem which we can discuss then." This Is what you said . Is this correct? On 10/30/13, Rich Knowles wrote: > The bu

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Curtis
Help On 10/30/13, Curtis wrote: > Perfect. Thats just what I need. Last night I was at the boat I > cranked the engine and took the wire off the end of the sender and > there was no change. I did not tuch the wire to a ground. I put a > meter red to the end of the switch and the black to a groun

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Curtis
Perfect. Thats just what I need. Last night I was at the boat I cranked the engine and took the wire off the end of the sender and there was no change. I did not tuch the wire to a ground. I put a meter red to the end of the switch and the black to a ground. The gauge looked like it was serching mo

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike
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Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
The buzzer should sound when the engine oil pressure is low or zero and when the engine is stopped. The sensor is a normally closed switch which means that, in a rest position with no oil pressure, it connects the wire on it to the engine block which is ground. To diagnose, Turn on the key, do N

Re: Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Briard6
The easiest way to check an oil pressure switch is to disconnect the wire from the pressure switch, turn on the key switch to the "RUN" (not START) position, and then ground the wire. The buzzer should buzz. If not, then the problem is somewhere in the wiring harness. Assuming that you the

Stus-List I need a little help with a sender.

2013-10-30 Thread Curtis
I have a question about my newly installed 2GM20F. I just installed this engine last month. It came with its own electrical panel and looms. It was a good running take out, from another sailboat The Buzzer in the old engine I took out would sound the second I turned the key on. Once I pushed the st

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
The yard that removed my keel took a day and a half to do the job. Apparent it was epoxied and glassed on to the point they had to heat the bolts to free them and allow the keel to drop. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:15, Don Siddall wrote: > > A few years ago I took my 35-1 into a high end re

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2013-10-30 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I guess you had to be there, but having a C&C 35 in 1977 was pretty much like having the only Ferrari in the neighborhood when everyone else had Chevys and 10 speeds. Even *today* with my ancient sails and towing a 12 foot RIB I pass the CatBenHuns with their furling mainsails. If ever any inven

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Jim I agree with this: "because everyone who believes that a C&C is the same as a Catalina is the same as a Hunter is not going to put a premium on buying *my* boat. I'm standing up for the brand. " When I was shopping around and new to sailing and boats the opinions of people on message boards wa

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2013-10-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike
>From a single boatshow visit where a Catalina 309 was displayed next to a Tartan 3400 my view is that a Catalina is not at all like a C&C The only similarity is that the 309 looked to have its hull designed 30 years ago and that the interior of the Catalina was constructed like a 1970s travel tr

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Hi Mark, I wouldn't worry too much about the hold back. They probably are a little disappointed at the price. I wouldn't take that personally. At least you can still walk if you don't like something you see. You'll get a lot of insight from the survey. Bring a notebook and get one of those

Re: Stus-List Skirtlifters

2013-10-30 Thread Andrew Burton
I wrote an article for Cruising World by that name. Basically, it entails attaching the topping lift or a halyard to the middle of the genoa foot to lift the foot out of the bow wave when you're close reaching. It had nothing to do with skirting the sail after a tack. If someone stole my idea an

Re: Stus-List To the barricades!

2013-10-30 Thread Don Siddall
A few years ago I took my 35-1 into a high end repair shop to have the keel dropped as part of a repair. To lower the keel the boat was lifted up a few inches off the floor after the nuts on the keel bolts were removed. A half hour of pounding with wedges and big sledge hammer were required to

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Check the keel bolt torque, Mark. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:37, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" wrote: > > As for the "cracks" noted on the keel - I saw them when I looked at the boat. > Tiny cracks along the keel/hull joint -- small enough I bet they'd fill with > a coat or 2 of bottom paint. Looks

Re: Stus-List Skirtlifters

2013-10-30 Thread Ken Heaton
There is a thread on SA right now that mentions them in context of single handing a J35 I think. It's the one that Jim is involved in a s**t fight over quality of C&C construction. You could ask the poster there if you are feeling brave. Ken H. On 30 October 2013 01:26, Ted Drossos wrote: >