Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Mostly makes sense.  However, flow through the Chicago canal to the Mississippi by way of the  Illinois doesn't ever cause much more than flushing a toilet in MPLS.  The Chicago was diverted to the Illinois to keep Chicago sewage out of Lake Michigan.  The canal just allows for traffic between t

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Levels on the Mississippi should have no effect.  The river watershed is not connected to the Great Lakes.  Most of the Great Lakes have little watershed area; well at least in the US.  For eg., the Superior watershed only goes back 50mi from the western shore.  So a light winter can have a dram

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Richard, Gracie has a UK Sail cover. You can find quite a few pics here to see her sailing with a stowed cover. http://amazinggrace45.shawwebspace.ca/blog/posts/4/5/ Web pics here: http://www.ukhalsey.com/sails/lazyCradle/index.asp The boat with grey cover is probably most easy to see the eff

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Lee Youngblood
Hi Jim, The previous owners of Simplicity, were better at systems than the current owner! They hid two 6 volt batteries in a plywood box under the sink, and two more under the quarter-berth. It's too tight there to put the lid on, so I have a couple slats that raised the lid. I'm sure the

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Some folks at our club are having to haul elsewhere this year because they are not able to approach the dock to get into the slings. I'm one of those people but I was planning on hauling elsewhere anyway. Water level is a serious issue at a lot of clubs on Lake Ontario. Steve C&C 32 Toronto (TS&CC

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
When I put 6V's in Bojangles, I had to increase the height of my battery compartment by about 1/2" (the width of a piece of plywood, thankfully) and then get rid of the old plastic battery boxes. I then glassed in the whole compartment (but for a 3" vent). The whole thing was a bit of a PITA, but

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
Paul, How would you go under the dock? Doesn't your dock float anymore? My dock (C-3) does. Cheers Colin On 10/3/12, Paul Fountain wrote: > Rich, > > It's a serious issue on the Great Lakes right now - many clubs and marinas > on Lake Ontario are not accessible to boats drawing over 5 1/2 fe

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Jim Watts
My current 3 x 27 setup is actually in group 31 boxes, two in the forward hole and one in the aft on a shelf a PO glassed in. The starting battery is in with the forward two. Theoretically I have the height. I could always build a custom box out of fiberglass to minimize the height...but I'd still

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
He's only got 4' headroom. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-10-03, at 20:58, Jim Watts wrote: You must have a basement in your boat. Mine didn't come with one, it's the economy model. Sure, love to take a look. I'll send you a message. On 3 October 2012 14:43, BRUCE BOLTON wrote:

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Jim Watts
You must have a basement in your boat. Mine didn't come with one, it's the economy model. Sure, love to take a look. I'll send you a message. On 3 October 2012 14:43, BRUCE BOLTON wrote: > Hi Jim: I've got four large batteries plus the starting battery plus a > heart inverter/charger under the

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
Sadly true .. And we'll need wheels on our keels! This is one time I am very happy to have centerboard on Lake Ontario! Paul. :) On 2012-10-03, at 5:53 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: > If they wait long enough, they'll be able to drive to their cottages... > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/

Re: Stus-List Sail Recommendations - Toronto Area

2012-10-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
I have some friends who have been very happy with Triton for cruising sails. Not sure how they would stack up on high tech stuff. Cheers Colin On 10/2/12, Glen Eddie wrote: > I agree that Rob is fantastic for repairs, etc. > > > > >Glen Eddie > Direct

Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Alex Giannelia
Stu is right to point this out. We need to listen and to do something. Here is my background based on what I do for a living and who I do it for. This issue is always going to be a difficult one. I am in the aerial mapping business and we have seen projects come out either because the lake le

Re: Stus-List Thread sizes - re-attaching wheel-pilot post topedestal

2012-10-03 Thread Indigo
Thank you. I was guessing that was the case so am glad to have confirmation -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 5:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Thread sizes - re-atta

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Chuck S
Great Lakes water level: Just guessing, but isn't the fall in lake levels due to lower rainfall amounts? Also, didn't they raise the level of the Mississippi (by lowering dam levels upstream to feed it) because they need to keep channels filled for commercial shipping? Chuck Resolute 1990

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread dwight veinot
So what could the government do??? Has someone interfered with nature or what??? Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu Sent: October 3, 2012 1:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subjec

Re: Stus-List already out of the water???

2012-10-03 Thread Frederick G Street
I haven't been in this year. Between a daughter's out-of-town college graduation in the spring, moving her from one distant place to another in August, and my younger daughter's band/choir trip to Europe in between, along with a steering system and engine control cable rebuild, there wasn't goi

Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Kim Brown
Jim, FWIW I looked at going to T105s but couldn't get comfortable with the height- especially after I figured in a battery box. Probably just a lack of courage on my part. A cardboard mockup is a good idea as the battery compartment (under the front end of the quarterberth) gets a little shallower

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Jim Mine came with a set of 4x 6 volt batteries, but they are smaller than the T-105 form factor, an inch less height. BCI group 2 I believe. I think you will have problems with the height, I'd make a cardboard mockup before committing the $$. Note though, mine are in a 2x2 arrangement,

Stus-List already out of the water???

2012-10-03 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Fred,I've noted for some weeks that you're already on the hard.  Are you getting a jump on some winter work, or does your season end that early?RonWild CheriC&C 30STL ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Frederick G Street
If they wait long enough, they'll be able to drive to their cottages... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Paul Fountain wrote: > On the upper lakes I have friends with cottages on islands that are havin

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread BRUCE BOLTON
Hi Jim: I've got four large batteries plus the starting battery plus a heart inverter/charger under there. You are welcome to go to Van Isle, get the key and take a peek. Let me know off list and I can let them know that you will be requesting the key. Bruce Bolton S/V Apple Tree 35-3 - Or

Re: Stus-List Thread sizes - re-attaching wheel-pilot post to pedestal

2012-10-03 Thread Graham Collins
Finer threads give a stronger attachment. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 Indigo wrote: Long story, but recently a jammed autohelm caused the post to be partially ripped off the pedestal. It should be a relatively easy fix – re-drill and tap the pedestal for larger bolts. (there

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread OldSteveH
What about putting in a lock at Pt Huron/Sarnia. But some of the IJC material states that they also have high water levels in Lake Michigan? Even though the IJC tries to explain away the impact of St Clair river dredging, I suspect they never anticipated climate change effects all those years ago

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread HONEYSAIL
I put 6 x 31-105 series AGM batteries in Honey on 3 Feb 2010, replaced all 6 with Rolls 35H-125 batteries as the AGM would no longer hold a charge. The AGM batteries is a good idea but they simply did not last very long in our 39 TM Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 Savannah In a message

Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Bergen
Jim: I mounted two six volt AGM batteries for house supply, and one twelve volt AGM for a starting battery. I don't remember what size batteries they are, but I can check and take pictures in the next couple of days. Remember, you'll have to replace your charger with one that will handle AGM b

Re: Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Fred Hazzard
I order to put batteries under the floor boards I went to AGM's. You can mount them on their sides or even on end. I am using group 31, 105 deep cycles. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland, Or From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: Wednesda

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Ed Dooley
Ours doesn¹t go up and down quite that much here on Lake Champlain, the 6th Great Lake, :-) but we are near record low levels, and at record lows for this time of year. We¹re also hoping for some of that lake effect snow for our ski areas. Ed On 10/3/12 4:28 PM, "cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
I understand. I used to live input real and sail on Lake St. Louis. Had the same problems. No fun. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-10-03, at 17:28, Paul Fountain wrote: Rich, It's a serious issue on the Great Lakes right now - many clubs and marinas on Lake Ontario are not accessib

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Fred Hazzard
Try racing on the Columbia River with 8’ 6” of draft. Two weeks ago I ran aground 7 times over the weekend. Fortunately it is mostly sand. Although I did find one rock. To complicate things, the river is constantly changing while the charts are not. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portla

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
Rich, It's a serious issue on the Great Lakes right now - many clubs and marinas on Lake Ontario are not accessible to boats drawing over 5 1/2 feet some are pulling deeper drafts already. I've had to extend my dock skirt down 2+ feet so I don't go under the dock. On the upper lakes I have fr

Stus-List Golf cart batteries in a 35-3?

2012-10-03 Thread Jim Watts
After 6 years, my last set of batteries is looking close to the end. I would like to replace the 3 group 27's I have now with 4 T-105 batteries, but I don't know if I have the space. I'm going out to measure the spaces and trial fit a cardboard mockup, but maybe I can save some time by asking here.

Stus-List Thread sizes - re-attaching wheel-pilot post to pedestal

2012-10-03 Thread Indigo
Long story, but recently a jammed autohelm caused the post to be partially ripped off the pedestal. It should be a relatively easy fix - re-drill and tap the pedestal for larger bolts. (there is no way I can put nuts on the inside of the pedestal without major disassembly of the steering gear) Que

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Joel Aronson
Deep water is a luxury for some of us. On the Chesapeake the 18 inch tide makes a difference in lots of places. Joel On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: > I don't understand all the flap over water levels. Ours goes up and down > over 6' every few hours. Up to 40' on the Bay of

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
I don't understand all the flap over water levels. Ours goes up and down over 6' every few hours. Up to 40' on the Bay of Fundy. No sweat. Rich Knowles Indigo - C&C LF38 Halifax - Nova Scotia On 2012-10-03, at 16:14, Frederick G Street wrote: > We don't see much lake effect snow on Superior,

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Frederick G Street
We don't see much lake effect snow on Superior, as we're upwind of everything... -- Fred On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:12 PM, "Neil Andersen" wrote: > I have heard that there is a call for a greater than usual volume of Lake > effect snowfall this year due to the higher than usual Lake temperature… >

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Neil Andersen
I have heard that there is a call for a greater than usual volume of Lake effect snowfall this year due to the higher than usual Lake temperature. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Bill Coleman
<< I can't see how putting baffles in the St. Clair River is going to improve the water level on Lake Ontario.>> It’s not! Stu wants water for his boat, just like everyone else! The Corp did screw up, they pulled the little Dutch boy up out of the bottom of the St Clair river, and now, coupled wi

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Stu
The main intention of my first email, was to pass along information on what is happening to the water levels in the Great Lakes and to let people know that the governments are doing nothing to improve the situation. Allowing the level in 1 lake to drop another 5 feet is going to destroy fishing

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Hey we just happen to have plenty of water here in Maryland and I just noticed a hose disappearing over the horizon to the northwest. Muhahahaha Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:50 AM To:

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
Richard, Mine was made by Sportech, a local supplier who has done all the canvas work on Perception except the sails. Let me know off list if you need more info ... From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: October-03-12 11:19 AM T

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Frederick G Street
Speaking just for Lake Superior, we're in a drought situation here right now, so inflow is much reduced; but the biggest culprit seems to be the warmer than usual winters, which lead to significantly reduced ice cover, which in turn leads to greatly increased evaporation. Fred Street -- Minneap

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread BRUCE BOLTON
I've had one of these for the past couple of years and overall I quite like them. I only cruise, however each side of the bag rolls up along the boom into a very small area resulting in zero impact on the sail for racing. The sail maker is Leitch/McBride located on the west coast of Canada. Bru

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Robert Mazza
OK Stu, here's a dumb question: If the water is leaving the Upper Great Lakes faster than normal, why isn't the level of the Lower Great Lakes rising with all that influx of water? We keep our boat in Hamilton, Ontario, and the water level at the fixed docks at the Royal Hamilton Yacht Club is so

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Richard N. Bush
Russ or Paul, I would be very interested in the name of the company that made your cover, thanks Richard 1987 33-II On the Mighty Ohio River... Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Russ &

Re: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels

2012-10-03 Thread Bill Coleman
Stu, if you really want to make some waves, get BoatUS in the fray. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 4:44 PM To: C&C Email List Subject: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels This i

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
I have 4 or 5 slugs that go into the track on top of the boom, and the cover is shackled to, my lazy jacks also go thru slugs on top of the boom, and when racing get pulled forward to the gooseneck reefing horns. I had straps that open put on so the lazy jacks are independent of the sail cover.

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Russ & Melody
Yup. And there is a common PVC pipe on each side that are part of a spreader arrangement for the lazy jacks. Cheezy, but works well. Cheers, Russ At 06:03 AM 03/10/2012, you wrote: ...and, is it integral with the lazy jacks? -- Original Message -- From: Russ & Me

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread Jack Brennan
My current boat (a 1973 and not a C&C) has been in the water in Florida for more than 20 years, with only brief haulouts. When I bought it three years ago, it had a few small blisters. The P.O. had been seriously ill for a couple of years, and the boat had sat with an ugly brew of oily bilge w

Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread Robert Abbott
Read Chapter II of the followingit will explain the benefit of barrier coating: http://www.yachtpaint.com/LiteratureCentre/interprotect-tb-usa-eng.pdf Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2012/10/03 9:22 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: what is the benefit of barrier coating?

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
See, that is a constant worry for me...I hate paying for someone to work on my boat if they can't do as good a job as me... Thats why I end up doing it all myself...I think I have trust issues... This is where someone should ask..."how does that make you feel?" Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Wes

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
...and, is it integral with the lazy jacks? -- Original Message -- From: Russ & Melody To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:54:33 -0700 Hi Danny, The boat I crew on for racing has one of those covers on a loose footed

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Mine is a 1973. I haven't noticed anything horrible. I did have the keel joint re-fared. I don't know what has been done to it. I think I may have the bottom stripped this year. maybe not...if it ain't broke... There does seem to be a few through hulls not doing anything from electronics t

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread Dennis C.
Bill, To answer your question about the converse, even though I had a barrier coat put on, Touché's bottom looked good with no significant blisters after 35 years in the water. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:52 AM, William Hall wrote: > It's supposed to prevent delamina

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread Dennis C.
Just my opinion, I think intermix 2000 is a better water barrier than gel coat. 2000 had overlapping micro plates that prevent water intrusion. Also my opinion, if a boat doesn't have significant blister issues, barrier coating is probably not warranted. I had Touché barrier coated a few year

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Danny, The boat I crew on for racing has one of those covers on a loose footed main. The cover has a bolt rope sewn in the bottom which goes inot the boom slot. We stow the lazy jacks against the mast and roll the cover against to boom when sailing. On the C&C I chartered a few years a

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread William Hall
It's supposed to prevent delamination and blistering that may result from osmosis (water gets into the fiberglass and the polyester gradually comes apart over years). It seems we have many reporters here who have applied barrier coat and have not suffered blistering after many years (thanks for the

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
what is the benefit of barrier coating? -- Original Message -- From: Robert Abbott To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: William Hall Subject: Stus-List Barrier Coats Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:18:30 -0300 Bill: We put 7 coats of Interprotect 2000 E on our boat in 2006. And if my boat

Stus-List Barrier Coats

2012-10-03 Thread Robert Abbott
Bill: We put 7 coats of Interprotect 2000 E on our boat in 2006. And if my boat was in the water most of the year, I would definitely have the bottom barrier coated. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 -84 Halifax, N.S. On 2012/10/02 2:37 PM, William Hall wrote: Hi List, I'm probably going to have ou

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Hm... I stand corrected! How does that work? Isn't it sewn to the foot of the sail? Danny -- Original Message -- From: Paul Fountain To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:11:46 -0400 I have one, and a loose footed main

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
I have one, and a loose footed main. I can remove the cover if I want for racing, or roll it and strap it to the boom. For cruising I just leave it setup. Paul. :) On 2012-10-03, at 12:05 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" wrote: > Hi Liz, > > I think doyle started these and they call it a stack

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Hi Liz, I think doyle started these and they call it a stack pack. All the canvass shops will make you one and call it something a little different. Keep in mind you can't have a loose footed sail and it becomes part of your sail. I asked about these when I was shopping for new sails and deci

Re: Stus-List Hurth transmission maint. and use

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
Yep! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-10-03, at 7:03, Pierre Tremblay wrote: My manual say "neutral or reverse" when sailing. 1988 Hurth HBW-100. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, C&C38-3 De : Rich Knowles À : "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Envoyé le : mercredi 3 octobre 2012 5h46 Objet : Stus

Re: Stus-List Hurth transmission maint. and use

2012-10-03 Thread Pierre Tremblay
My manual say "neutral or reverse" when sailing. 1988 Hurth HBW-100.   Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, C&C38-3 > > De : Rich Knowles >À : "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Envoyé le : mercredi 3 octobre 2012 5h46 >Objet : Stus-List Hurth transmission maint. and use > > >FYI

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Chuck S
Doyle offers Stackpack, but I think it includes lazy jacks with the system. I've seen similar systems offered by all the major brand sailmakers. Looks very clean, but I've never tried it. http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/stackpack/index.html Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ

Stus-List Hurth transmission maint. and use

2012-10-03 Thread Rich Knowles
FYI: You may recall a discussion a while back about what to do with your transmission when sailing. This link discusses Hurth transmissions maintenance and use. http://l-36.com/manuals/Hurth-Transmission-operating.pdf Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax _

Re: Stus-List main sail cover/bag

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Fountain
Liz, Talk to Jamie at Sportech in St. Catherine's he did ours a few years back we love it. Paul. :) On 2012-10-03, at 2:31 AM, Liz Mather wrote: > Good evening! > > I'm wondering what these 'new' (new to me) sail cover and bag are called. > I have seen them on several sailboats old and new