Re: [Clamav-users] Virus detection notification

2005-01-27 Thread Ralf Bosz
[sending notification to receiver] It's possible with Amavisd-new to do this, but if it's wise??? It can confuse the receiver, so inform them good about this kind of messages (or make the message very good). Here we just delete the worms, what is the use of a message that you just received the ne

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 23:41, Kriƅtof Petr wrote: > Hi, > > trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: > > Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in > /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? > Petr -- Nigel Horne.

Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging

2005-01-27 Thread goudal
Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:59 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging >On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:48:08 +0100 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Trog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >Thats normal behaviour. A gdb backtrace of each thread when it

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:01:28 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There were problems generating HTML documentation (probably due to > broken TeX installation in Debian). The tarball now includes > clamdoc.tex so you can try to generate it yourself with latex2html

Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:51:48 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > After 24hours with 0.81rc1 compiled with gcc I have not seen any > hang-up. And 0.81 is now released officially. -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org dot uk GnuPG key ID DE32E5C5 - http://wwwkeys.uk.pgp.n

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:10:36AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: > The clamdoc.aux file was not found, so sections will not be numbered > and cross-references will be shown as icons. > > Is there a correct command for generating the html docs or the > clamdoc.aux file? I'm not very TeX literate I'm

[Clamav-users] Latest CVS - ClamAV engine outdated?

2005-01-27 Thread Graham Murray
Using the latest CVS (from about 1 hour ago), when I start clamd and clamavmilter I get a message from Libaclamav stating the Clamav engine is outdated and saying that I should upgrade immediately. ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cla

Re: [Clamav-users] Using Clam AV - Perhaps I am not understanding product intent

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 at 13:17:40 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > Secondly full file system scanning. > > [...] The second is easy enough, however, > when I used clamdscan the file system scan consumes inordinate amount of > CPU resources. I've tried starting clamd with a nice value of 17 an

[Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Roberts
I 'had' a beautiful Clamd installation working on a Debian distribution with MIMEDefang. I received the warning from freshclam that my ClamAV installation was outdated. I entered Debian "dselect" and without changing any selections took the option to upgrade. The upgrade warned me that freshclam.c

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:35:47 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan Pieter Cornet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:10:36AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: > > The clamdoc.aux file was not found, so sections will not be numbered > > and cross-references will be shown as icons. > > > >

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Gian Carlo
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:08:08AM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: > I 'had' a beautiful Clamd installation working on a Debian distribution > with MIMEDefang. > Replacing config file /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf with new version > Starting ClamAV virus database updater: ERROR: Number of checks

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:49:57AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: > > TeX generates the .aux file itself. Just rerun the command you gave. > > Done that, same result. I ran latex2html, do I need to run another > command first? Hm, I'm not very familiar with latex2html. Maybe you should just run "la

RE: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Roberts
> Check the value of "Checks" in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to > 12, I think) Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - I just never thought to read the error message that literally - it was set to zero and instead I had added freshclam to cron. I have now changed to 12 a

[Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Luca Gibelli wrote: > Dear ClamAV users, > > release 0.81 is now available for download. [ NOTHING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY UPGRADE ] WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! WARNING: Current functionality level = 3, required = 4 This is the second time, that this h

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:17:16 +0100 Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luca Gibelli wrote: > > Dear ClamAV users, > > > > release 0.81 is now available for download. > > [ NOTHING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY UPGRADE ] > > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update > immediat

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:17:16 +0100 Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Luca Gibelli wrote: > > Dear ClamAV users, > > > > release 0.81 is now available for download. > > [ NOTHING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY UPGRADE ] > > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! > WARNING: Current

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:37:33 +0100 Frank Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update > > immediately! WARNING: Current functionality level = 3, required = 4 > > > > This is the second time, that this happened (last time was to 0.80). > > An

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:12 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will ASCII-art flowers printed by freshclam satisfy you as well? Won't your sheep(?) eat them? -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org dot uk GnuPG key ID DE32E5C5 - http://wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net/pg

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:55:33 + Brian Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:12 +0100 in > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Will ASCII-art flowers printed by freshclam satisfy you as well? > > Won't your sheep(?) eat them? Actually it

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Gian Carlo
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: > > Check the value of "Checks" in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to > > 12, I think) > > Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - ... Please don't exagerate: you're NOT stupid!!! ;-) bye, gc :-) _

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:03:46 +0100 Gian Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: > > > Check the value of "Checks" in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf > > > (defaults to 12, I think) > > > > Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just s

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
Tomasz Kojm wrote: Won't your sheep(?) eat them? Actually it's a turtle. I really hate when people confuse it with a sheep! ;-) Ehh? I really thought it was a snail! those two little dots on top, are s like snail antennas. or eyes, whatever. If you've seen Gary, Spongebob Squarepants'

[Clamav-users] Upgrade doc?

2005-01-27 Thread Diane Rolland
Is there an upgrade doc? I want to update to the latest version. Is it best to install over the top of an old version? Or is there a preferred method of upgrade? Thanks! ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

Re: [Clamav-users] Upgrade doc?

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:16:06 -0600 "Diane Rolland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there an upgrade doc? I want to update to the latest version. Is > it best to install over the top of an old version? Or is there a > preferred method of upgrade? http://wiki.clamav.net/index.php/UpgradeInstruct

Re: [Clamav-users] "Directory recursion limit exceeded" error in clamd.log file (clamav version 0.80)

2005-01-27 Thread Hal Goldfarb
> > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 at 3:04:22 -0700, Hal Goldfarb wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > Problem: When I run clamdscan (which uses the daemon), it generates > > > > zillions of errors in the clamd.log file something like "Directory > > > > recursion limit exceeded at /home/hal/.tvtime". However, w

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:57:30 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Won't your sheep(?) eat them? > > Actually it's a turtle. I really hate when people confuse it with > a sheep! ;-) OK, but turtles like flowers too don't they? -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenri

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:12 +0100 Tomasz Kojm wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:37:33 +0100 > Frank Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update > > > immediately! WARNING: Current functionality level = 3, required = 4 > > > > > > This is

[Clamav-users] Upgrade instructions that ~I~ follow(ed)

2005-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Kroll
Here are the upgrade instructions that I follow(ed)! These do work if you follow them to the t! *oh ya ... Remember to backup your Freshclam.conf and clamd.conf =P~ unpack the old distribution: tar -zxf clamav-0.80.tar.gz run configure cd clamav-0.80 ./configure Unpack the

[Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Craig Daters
I'm thinking that someone has submitted this, and we already have the update...but does anyone know for sure if we are safe from this. WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there message to me this morning follows: > As of January 27, 2005 1:42 AM PST (Pacific Standard Time/

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 07:01 -0700, Craig Daters wrote: > I'm thinking that someone has submitted this, and we already have the > update...but does anyone know for sure if we are safe from this. > > WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there message > to me this morning follow

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Craig Daters
Trog wrote: It is detected by Clam as Trojan.Downloader.Small-165, which was added on 8th Nov 2004 by Christoph. Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog -- Craig Daters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Systems Administrator West Press Print

[Clamav-users] 0.81 - Question on Upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Sam
Hi List! Please allow me to start by saying I'm relatively new here, having just switched to clam from RAV. I'm very impressed with the responsiveness of the Clam team, and with the Clam product. You guys do a great job. I do have a question on the upgrade(s): Is there typically a period of tim

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Randal, Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Trog wrote: >> It is detected by Clam as Trojan.Downloader.Small-165, which was >> added on 8th Nov 2004 by Christoph. >> > Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now > putting out an update! That's scarry! > > Thanks Trog > > -- > Craig Daters ([EMAIL

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 - Question on Upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 08:25 -0600, Sam wrote: > I do have a question on the upgrade(s): Is there typically a period of > time where the old version will work alongside the new version? (I read > the faq and saw the mention of missing viruses if one doesn't upgrade). > The reason I ask is, in my

[Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Sam
Trog: Thanks for the advice on the new releases. I have yet another question. I have noticed Clam stopping (or at least to me it appears to be stopping) various phishing attempts. Or am I wrong? If this is the case, I will start submitting phishing attemps I see (I probably get 3 - 4 a day).

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread sk3tch
>Craig Daters >Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out >an update! That's scarry! > >Thanks Trog What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific variant since November) is that ClamAV is not performing due diligence and sharing samples to prote

[Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says "ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Upgraded this morning to 0.81, and suddenly I have frequently the error message "ScanStream: accept() failed" in my logs. I have enable verbose logging, and notice that *most of the time* all is ok, but frequently there is an accept error: Thu Jan 27 16:09:06 2005 -> Accepted connection on port 125

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Randal, Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Craig Daters >> Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting >> out an update! That's scarry! >> >> Thanks Trog > > What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this > specific variant since November) is that ClamAV is not > performin

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Craig Daters > >Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out > >an update! That's scarry! > > > >Thanks Trog > > What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific > variant since November)

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread sk3tch
>Randal, Phil: > >Hold on a minute there! ClamAV detects it because it matches an >existing ClamAV virus pattern - that is serendipitous rather than >malicious. My apoligies if that is the case. However, I do know that Trend detected this before the new definitions were released as well. However

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Sam wrote: I have yet another question. I have noticed Clam stopping (or at least to me it appears to be stopping) various phishing attempts. Or am I wrong? If this is the case, I will start submitting phishing attemps I see (I probably get 3 - 4 a day). Please don't. Phishing

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:13 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Craig Daters Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific variant since November) is that ClamAV is not per

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Damian Menscher wrote: There was a discussion about this several months ago. Unfortunately, many people (including part of the signature-generation team) are too dogmatic about their feelings that "phishing is bad, so we should block it" to look at it logically. Ca

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:32:55 -0500 Bart Silverstrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Damian Menscher wrote: > > > There was a discussion about this several months ago. > > Unfortunately, many people (including part of the > > signature-generation team) are too dogmat

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Damian Menscher wrote: Please don't. Phishing attempts do not automatically propagate (by infecting a machine and being re-sent) and therefore are generally one-time events. As such, they can be trivially changed to evade any signature-based filter, which must obviously generate a signature _

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says "ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:19 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > Upgraded this morning to 0.81, and suddenly I have frequently the > error message "ScanStream: accept() failed" in my logs. > > I have enable verbose logging, and notice that *most of the time* > all is ok, but frequently there is an accept

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Sam wrote: I have yet another question. I have noticed Clam stopping (or at least to me it appears to be stopping) various phishing attempts. Or am I wrong? If this is the case, I will start submitting phishing attemps I see (I probably get 3 - 4 a day).

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says "ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Trog wrote: What software are you using to pass requests/data to clamd? clamscan-procfilter.pl, a little perlprog to be used in procmail essential boiling down to "cat themsg | clamdscan --stdout - > $tempfile", and examining $tempfile for results. -- Paul Bijnens, Xplanation

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Sam
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: > Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav > catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching > them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the > right tool for that job, but is there REALLY

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:45 -0600, Sam wrote: > (This is directed more at Trog than anyone...) So if one were to submit > phishing attempts, what do you need? I don't think the virus submission > page will allow one to submit something without an attachment? > > Do you need headers? > > Do you

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Stephen Gran
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts said: > > Check the value of "Checks" in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to > > 12, I think) > > Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - I just never > thought to read the error message that literally - it was set

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says "ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:44 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > Trog wrote: > > What software are you using to pass requests/data to clamd? > > clamscan-procfilter.pl, a little perlprog to be used in procmail > essential boiling down to > "cat themsg | clamdscan --stdout - > $tempfile", > and examining $

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Tomasz Kojm wrote: No problem. As a bonus we will create a signature for your domain name ;-) Just kidding! Honest! I'd NEVER think of having Windows thought of as a virus... :-) ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailma

Re: [Clamav-users] Virus detection notification

2005-01-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> [sending notification to receiver] > It's possible with Amavisd-new to do this, But there is no way to do this [ send a message to the intended recipient] via clamav-milter itself? > but if it's wise??? It can > confuse the receiver, so inform them good about this kind of messages > (or make t

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > There was a discussion about this several months ago. Unfortunately, > > many people (including part of the signature-generation team) are too > > dogmatic about their feelings that "phishing is bad, so we should block > > it" to look at it logically. > Is it causing you (or anyone for that

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks > virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? -- oo

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Don Levey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 07:01 -0700, Craig Daters wrote: >> I'm thinking that someone has submitted this, and we already have the >> update...but does anyone know for sure if we are safe from this. >> >> WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there >> mes

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:35:24 -0500 "Don Levey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm... Passed right through my setup, without detection. > Database updated as recently as 4:am today. So better update your software ASAP. -- oo. Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (\/)\.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Stefan Hornburg
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:29:05 +0100 Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 > Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks > > virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just th

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:35:24 -0500 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Don Levey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm... Passed right through my setup, without detection. And your setup is? > Database updated as recently as 4:am today. That's more than 7 *hours* ago... -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 11:35:24 -0500, Don Levey wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 07:01 -0700, Craig Daters wrote: > >> > >> WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there > >> message to me this morning follows: > > > > It is detected by Clam as Trojan

RE: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Roberts
> I'm not sure how that could have happened. Did you choose cron in the > debconf setup, or something else? I wouldn't mind getting to > the bottom of this. I really don't recall the setup process. I believe I visited http://sial.org/howto/clamav/freshclam/ and took the following sentence to he

[Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread GVeri
Hello, I just wanted to give the team a big thank you. All I needed to do was upgrade zlib and compile. Everything is working great. Gord CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: The information in the e:mail is confidential and privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity it

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:40:25 +0100 Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you give me a pointer to how Phishing is defined and detected in > the context of ClamAV ? See http://www.antiphishing.org/ "What is Phishing? Phishing attacks use 'spoofed' e-mails and fraudulent websites design

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student & SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL 61

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Lambert
Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand

RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have received this > communication in error, please notify me immediately by telephone or fax > and delete all copies of the original message. How can I do that if you don't q

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: > > > > Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? > > Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? 95% of internet worms are not viru

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? Ok, so its not a virus, and its not spam. So neither product should detect it your saying? How about both pro

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: > > > > Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? > > Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? 95% of internet

RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread GVeri
Nigel, You are far too detailed. Gord CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: The information in the e:mail is confidential and privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity it is addressed to. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the authorized agent

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread C. Bensend
> Ok, so its not a virus, and its not spam. So neither product should > detect it your saying? How about both products detect it, we have > overlap, and users are happy cause they dont have to deal with this crap > in their inbox. Personally, I'd love to have it as a config option in clamd.conf.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the right tool for that job, but is there REALLY a probl

[Clamav-users] Building clamav 0.81 (broken zlib?)

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
I am building clamav from src rpm from crash-hat. It build just fine but i get the message: configure: WARNING: ** This ClamAV installation may be linked against configure: WARNING: ** a broken zlib version. Please DO NOT report any configure: WARNING: ** stability problems to the Cl

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the right tool for that job, but

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:08:12 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that > propagate automatically without intervention from their author. OK, so what about the trojans? ;-) -- oo. Tomasz Kojm <[EM

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Dennis Peterson
Sam said: > > Also to Damian: I understand what you are saying, but tend to agree more > with Jim. What does it matter who catches it as long as it's caught? The answer to this is simple: my policy for dealing with spam is quite different than my policy for dealing with viruses. Spam is annoying,

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that > propagate automatically without intervention from their author. OK, so what about the trojans? ;-) I take the somewhat-unusu

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:48 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that > > > propagate automatical

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Dave Goodrich
Jim Maul wrote: If my car is broken usually I take it to a mechanic. But if a friend of mine who happens to be a plumber can fix it also, does it really matter if I bring it to him instead? No. -Jim Ok, I took part in the previous discussion and I accept the developers decision. But I just..

[Clamav-users] Latest CVS / outdated warning

2005-01-27 Thread Michael Brennen
el Jan 27 11:38:01 ... clamd[27135]: clamd daemon devel-20050127 (OS: linux-gnu,ARCH: i386, CPU: i686) # freshclam -V ClamAV devel-20050127/689/Thu Jan 27 07:33:10 2005 # freshclam -v Current working dir is /.../ Max retries == 5 ClamAV update process started at Thu Jan 27 11:49:0

Re: [Clamav-users] Latest CVS / outdated warning

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:59:24 -0600 (CST) Michael Brennen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been running clamav for quite some time, generally following CVS. > The build and install procedures are well established and have worked > for a long time. After the latest CVS upgrade I'm suddenly gett

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread BitFuzzy
You know, this gets old real quick! Back when this debate first started (around November or so) I never thought it would stop. In November I decided to do 2 things 1 log what virus's were being caught, where they were going, and what virus was detected. Out of 446 detected viruses, 167 were phish

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Ken Jones
From: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/01/21/04FEphishing_1.html?source=NLC-WS2005-01-26 Phishers are employing increasingly sophisticated techniques, such as malicious code buried in images, keystroke-logging applications that download as soon as an e-mail is opened, and spoofed Web sites tha

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:59:57 - in [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Nigel Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > If you have received this > > communication in error, please notify me im

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: > > We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. > Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and > filtering second. As phishers become more sophisticated and numerous false > positi

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: > We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. > Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and > filtering second. As phishers become more sophisticate

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:14 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: > > > > Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching > > some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats > > really the issue here? You just dont

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Kul
> trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: > > Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in > /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? > Petr Hi Guys Sorry this thread doesn't follow, I have just sbscribed here, and dont have

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:32 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: > > > > And how many Phishing false positives have you had exactly? > > All of them. ;) > > Seriously, that's an unfair question. When you're deleting people's > email, how would they find out if there was a false positive? With > s

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:37 +, Kul wrote: > > trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: > > > > Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in > > /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) > > What are your clamav-milter options? > Uncomment the ScanMail

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: > We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. > Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and > filtering second. As phishers

RE: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread John Gallagher
The more tools that you have the likelihood of filtering it out increases. Just because I run ClamAv on the mail exchanger does not mean I do not run AV on our Exchange server and all of our desktop machines. Firewalls can do IDS functions, AV applications for the desktop are now including Anti Sp

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:32 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: > Seriously, that's an unfair question. When you're deleting people's > email, how would they find out if there was a false positive? With > spam, it's standard practice to review a junk-mail box for fals

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:37, Kul wrote: > > trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: > > > > Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in > > /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) > > What are your clamav-milter options? > > > Petr > > Hi Guys > Sorry

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread jef moskot
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: > What if the plumber and the mechanic work on it together? ;) What if the electrician goes to night school to learn ornithology? ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:45 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: > Another is your assertion that my "initial assumptions" were incorrect > when I suggested that phishing signatures were more likely to create > false positives as a result of being more likely to be matching > plaintext. Which initial

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:45 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: > Another is your assertion that my "initial assumptions" were incorrect > when I suggested that phishing signatures were more likely to create > false positives as a result of being more likely to be match

[Clamav-users] Re: clamav-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 70

2005-01-27 Thread Kul
> trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: > > Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in > /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? > Petr Hi Guys Sorry this thread doesn't follow, I have just sbscribed here, and don

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