Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-27 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/27/2018 10:13 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: I meant /usr/dt/config/xfonts, of course. And of course, by CDE standard practice, you would copy the file you want to override into the /etc/dt structure and make your changes there. So, shouldn't the wiki page I referenced instruct the user to

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-27 Thread Matthew R. Trower
d...@blackshard.net (Matthew R. Trower) writes: > How do we handle fonts right now? I know we install aliases since the > originals aren't available... But, say I use both C and ja locales on > the same machine; will / can CDE use a (different) appropriate font for > each, or do I need to change

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Jon Trulson writes: > On 06/26/2018 04:23 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: >> Jon Trulson writes: > Yes... At the time the JP locale was very important -- that and some > unsupported CN locales are probably what prompted the push for MB work > in CDE... (not UTF of course, but rather MB ISO locales

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Jon Trulson
money on it. -jon Thanks Robert Pangrazio *From:* Matthew R. Trower *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:27 PM *To:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling Robert Pangrazio writes: Also, I have used dtmail with GMail/IMAP using

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
so accounts, accessed securely, some >> using client certs even. :) >> >> We could "deprecate" dtmail, and maybe eventually remove it. I just don't >> see someone jumping in and giving it the love it needs to be comparable to a >> modern email client. It migh

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
meone jumping in and giving it the love it needs to be comparable to a > modern email client. It might happen, but I wouldn't bet any money on it. > > -jon > >> Thanks >> Robert Pangrazio >> ----------------

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Brent Busby writes: > Robert Pangrazio writes: > >> Just to put it out there, currently I have CDE running on Ubuntu 16.04 >> using multiple monitors. I have a few xrandr commands in my .dtprofile that >> configures my 3 monitors and arranges them - even rotating them, and it >> works great. I e

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Brent Busby writes: > d...@blackshard.net (Matthew R. Trower) writes: > >> My experience was that when using fetchmail (or getmail, or dtmail's >> builtin IMAP), you cannot leave messages on the server. If you do, they >> will be repeatedly fetched, causing much duplication. Local deletion >> a

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Brent Busby
Robert Pangrazio writes: > Just to put it out there, currently I have CDE running on Ubuntu 16.04 > using multiple monitors. I have a few xrandr commands in my .dtprofile that > configures my 3 monitors and arranges them - even rotating them, and it > works great. I even have Top and sensors as a

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Brent Busby
d...@blackshard.net (Matthew R. Trower) writes: > My experience was that when using fetchmail (or getmail, or dtmail's > builtin IMAP), you cannot leave messages on the server. If you do, they > will be repeatedly fetched, causing much duplication. Local deletion > also does not propagate back t

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Jon Trulson
on Thanks Robert Pangrazio *From:* Matthew R. Trower *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:27 PM *To:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling Robert Pangrazio writes: > Also, I

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Robert Pangrazio
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:27 PM To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling Robert Pangrazio writes: > Also, I have used dtmail with GMail/IMAP using a local relay via > procmail to sync it to the local mailbox. Sending was

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/26/2018 04:23 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: Jon Trulson writes: On 06/25/2018 07:40 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: Jon Trulson writes: Hey, as it turns out, XRandR is supported just fine through the current multihead code (as much as multihead works at all, anyway). So that's cool new

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Robert Pangrazio writes: > Also, I have used dtmail with GMail/IMAP using a local relay via > procmail to sync it to the local mailbox. Sending was via a local > sendmail relay. Worked great. I think the bigger issue is the lack of > HTML support. I couldn't read a lot of my emails because of it.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Jon Trulson writes: > On 06/25/2018 07:40 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: >> Jon Trulson writes: >> Hey, as it turns out, XRandR is supported just fine through the current >> multihead code (as much as multihead works at all, anyway). So that's >> cool news. There's still fair bit of polish left

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Matthew R. Trower
José Carlos Carrión Plaza writes: > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > What about using libcurl for IMAP/POP with SSL support? We wouldn’t reinvent > the wheel... ...but we might build our own wheel, instead of borrowing another. =) Neither IMAP nor SSL support should be difficult, and I don't see th

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Christopher Turkel
I couldn't find it in the archives but I remember a couple of years ago someone posted a tutorial for using sendmail and dtmail mail to read gmail. On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Robert Pangrazio wrote: > Just to put it out there, currently I have CDE running on Ubuntu 16.04 > using multiple m

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Robert Pangrazio
Just to put it out there, currently I have CDE running on Ubuntu 16.04 using multiple monitors. I have a few xrandr commands in my .dtprofile that configures my 3 monitors and arranges them - even rotating them, and it works great. I even have Top and sensors as applications that start on login, no

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread José Carlos Carrión Plaza
Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 26 jun 2018, a las 20:51, Jon Trulson escribió: > >> On 06/25/2018 07:40 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: >> Jon Trulson writes: > [...] > >>> Well, my point is that dtmail isn't really safe to use on the >>> Internet. I'm only half-way joking when I say I want to ki

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

2018-06-26 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/25/2018 07:40 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: Jon Trulson writes: [...] Well, my point is that dtmail isn't really safe to use on the Internet. I'm only half-way joking when I say I want to kill it. But dtmail has been around since the beginning of CDE, so I won't kill it - I will advise