I suppose one could come up with a configuration file for Thunderbird that used dtaction commands to have the CDE type handling mechanism deal with as many as possible (and relatively safe, e.g. NOT shell scripts) attachment types. That would allow some degree of natural integration. Add to that a theme for Thunderbird that gave it a more Motif-like look (and maybe multiple versions of it to match some of the CDE color scheme choices), and IMO it wouldn't be too bad. The theme part would take some work from someone that knows how, but a lot less work probably than modernizing dtmail.
The only thing I really liked about dtmail (Sun's version, where the IMAP actually worked, although not with TLS, as I recall) was that it could work with either local mailboxes or IMAP; and if migrating to IMAP from local mailboxes and one used an IMAP server that could handle the existing mailbox format, it was fairly painless and one could always fall back. The lack of inline display for HTML or RTF definitely was not nice, although back then, I didn't necessarily expect those anyway. > On Jun 26, 2018, at 19:19, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote: > > On 06/26/2018 05:09 PM, Robert Pangrazio wrote: >> I’ll see if I can find my exact setup, but that doesn’t sound right. I >> wasn’t deleting messages as I was able to see them from multiple devices. >> I have an AWS server I use for my own projects, including CDE where I had it >> set up. And since I access it through a website, why not just access my >> gmail in a different tab. It was more of a proof of concept and not really >> something I use all the time. >> It was however, in my opinion, a bit of a hack. And if somebody wants to put >> true modern email server support in that would be awesome. >> I’ve been investigating html rendering for a little bit. I’ve been trying to >> find the best way to integrate it into the system. I’ve looked at including >> html rendering widgets like xmhtml, using chromes rendering engine, or even >> including code from mosaic. >> I do have a question though. I have been looking at some other email clients >> and wondering if we don’t replace dtmail with them. Redo the ui to match >> dtmail, but keep everything underneath the same. Is this an approach anybody >> would even entertain? I’m not sure I like it, but the thought had occurred. > > That sounds problematic in terms of licensing and work (maintenance)... > > That's why I was thinking to just use thunderbird, just like we will use > firefox/chrome/whatever for web browsing, rather than try to invent a CDE web > browser. > > That's what I use now with a dozen or so accounts, accessed securely, some > using client certs even. :) > > We could "deprecate" dtmail, and maybe eventually remove it. I just don't > see someone jumping in and giving it the love it needs to be comparable to a > modern email client. It might happen, but I wouldn't bet any money on it. > > -jon > >> Thanks >> Robert Pangrazio >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Matthew R. Trower <d...@blackshard.net> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:27 PM >> *To:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling >> Robert Pangrazio <rpangra...@gmail.com> writes: >> > Also, I have used dtmail with GMail/IMAP using a local relay via >> > procmail to sync it to the local mailbox. Sending was via a local >> > sendmail relay. Worked great. I think the bigger issue is the lack of >> > HTML support. I couldn't read a lot of my emails because of it. >> My experience was that when using fetchmail (or getmail, or dtmail's >> builtin IMAP), you cannot leave messages on the server. If you do, they >> will be repeatedly fetched, causing much duplication. Local deletion >> also does not propagate back to the server. This is not how IMAP was >> intended to work; it is glorified POP. >> Does this not match your experience? >> Ah, HTML... yeah, as much as I try to avoid such mail, I suppose >> something should be done for it... >> -mrt >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel > > -- > Jon Trulson > > "Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodle." > > - Zapp Brannigan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > cdesktopenv-devel mailing list > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >
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